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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:24:07 PM   
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He promises 95% of the people will get tax cuts.


No. 95% of people earning less than $250,000. [Some of those between $200,000-$250,000 may remain the same, depending on their circumstances. Under $200,000, all see a tax cut--even Joe the Plumber]

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:24:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		They'll get checks, won't they.

Obama promises that very thing.

Blame Barack, not me - I'm only the messenger.


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No Sanity,I think I will just let your crack heads and homeless people beer line stand all on its own.....


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:32:39 PM   
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look at Warren Buffet, didn't he file bankruptcy at some point?


No.



Hehehe,

Sure sounded good though, didn't it? ... very Joe the Plumberish! (which is very appropriate!)


puella
lol......so i have asked a stupid question too..... so now, i am the devil?  i am gonna get a record deal!!! 

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:36:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

They'll get checks, won't they.

Obama promises that very thing.

Blame Barrack, not me - I'm only the messenger.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No Sanity,I think I will just let your crack heads and homeless people beer line stand all on its own.....

Sanity, with all the help the big and small business got over the past 8 years..they are now doing exactly what you fear Obama's plan is going to do.  Why are there so many layoffs under the Republican plan?  And don't blame the "Democratic Congress".. Republicans had it for 7 years and enjoyed the blank check Bush gave them. 

We are now all in debt up to our eyeballs, loosing our jobs and our homes.  Thank you Republicans but Obama is going to win, so just get ready to Suck IT!

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:43:29 PM   
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You write like you're already aware that Barney Frank and pals are the ones who stonewalled the Republican's efforts to head off the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac catastrophe that we're now having to deal with, so I'll just let this one go on under the bridge.

So far as our debt goes, if you're really that upset and worried about it, why not contact Obama and tell him to pay down the debt instead of bribing the electorate.

Complaining to me about it won't do you any good.


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ORIGINAL: MistresseLotusSanity, with all the help the big and small business got over the past 8 years..they are now doing exactly what you fear Obama's plan is going to do.  Why are there so many layoffs under the Republican plan?  And don't blame the "Democratic Congress".. Republicans had it for 7 years and enjoyed the blank check Bush gave them. 

We are now all in debt up to our eyeballs, loosing our jobs and our homes.  Thank you Republicans but Obama is going to win, so just get read to Suck IT!


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 8:47:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

They'll get checks, won't they.

Obama promises that very thing.

Blame Barack, not me - I'm only the messenger.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No Sanity,I think I will just let your crack heads and homeless people beer line stand all on its own.....



~the messenger~

No,you`re the spinner.

And talented contortionist with a taste for bending logic.

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:00:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You write like you're already aware that Barney Frank and pals are the ones who stonewalled the Republican's efforts to head off the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac catastrophe that we're now having to deal with, so I'll just let this one go on under the bridge.

So far as our debt goes, if you're really that upset and worried about it, why not contact Obama and tell him to pay down the debt instead of bribing the electorate.

Complaining to me about it won't do you any good.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistresseLotusSanity, with all the help the big and small business got over the past 8 years..they are now doing exactly what you fear Obama's plan is going to do.  Why are there so many layoffs under the Republican plan?  And don't blame the "Democratic Congress".. Republicans had it for 7 years and enjoyed the blank check Bush gave them. 

We are now all in debt up to our eyeballs, loosing our jobs and our homes.  Thank you Republicans but Obama is going to win, so just get read to Suck IT!






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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:03:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

They'll get checks, won't they.

Obama promises that very thing.

Blame Barack, not me - I'm only the messenger.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No Sanity,I think I will just let your crack heads and homeless people beer line stand all on its own.....

Your the messenger allright....unfortunately your messege seems to be one of divisevness and hate....are you sure your not a speech writer for McCain.

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:03:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

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ORIGINAL: puella

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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look at Warren Buffet, didn't he file bankruptcy at some point?


No.


mmmm....


can ya sing?
Hehehe,

Sure sounded good though, didn't it? ... very Joe the Plumberish! (which is very appropriate!)


puella
lol......so i have asked a stupid question too..... so now, i am the devil?  i am gonna get a record deal!!! 


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:08:47 PM   
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You've got to click on the video in order to get the full sense that he's paying for your vote (with other people's money).

Yesterday I heard a clip of Obama defending his plan for "sharing" other people wealth. He said when he was in Kindergarten he shared his toys. When he was in grade school he shared his peanut butter sandwich with a girl he liked.

But that's not how his tax plan works... for an analogy that worked, he would have had to have said he had taken sandwiches and toys away from kids he knew he could beat up, and then "shared them" with kids who he wanted to like him.


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:11:34 PM   
Sanity


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Status: offline 		You keep attacking me, but the thing you're mad about, I'm pretty sure, is the pointed discussion of Obama's tax plan, if not the tax plan itself.

It's sooo odd how Democrats can nominate an unabashed Marxist and then act surprised and annoyed that people have a problem with it... accuse us of being "hateful" and "divisive" if we oppose his policies.

And I'm pretty sure most people will know what you mean by those code words...

His policies are what are hateful and divisive. It's class warfare, pitting the poor and middle class against the wealthy, and enraging half the electorate by offering checks from the treasury in exchange for votes.

And you're really surprised.... well, I'm surprised that you're surprised.  

Shocked, in fact.




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Your the messenger allright....unfortunately your messege seems to be one of divisevness and hate....are you sure your not a speech writer for McCain.


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:26:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You write like you're already aware that Barney Frank and pals are the ones who stonewalled the Republican's efforts to head off the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac catastrophe that we're now having to deal with, so I'll just let this one go on under the bridge.



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ORIGINAL: MistresseLotusSanity, with all the help the big and small business got over the past 8 years..they are now doing exactly what you fear Obama's plan is going to do.  Why are there so many layoffs under the Republican plan?  And don't blame the "Democratic Congress".. Republicans had it for 7 years and enjoyed the blank check Bush gave them. 

We are now all in debt up to our eyeballs, loosing our jobs and our homes.  Thank you Republicans but Obama is going to win, so just get read to Suck IT!





You write like Freddy/Fanny had anything to do with the meltdown.

That`s narrative preferred by those of the conservative persuasion.

They didn`t,according to Alan Greenspan who at his recent mea culpa/congressional testimony,said so. 

He and the other big wigs with him were specifically asked by a congressmen about the Freddy/Fanny blaming effort and he and the others said that Freddy/Fanny weren`t the problem.

Greenspan admitted that he and his (financial)models were wrong and that deregulation of banks was the problem.

This is not necessarily to inform you,but to counter the mis-information you`re parroting.

http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/fannie_mae_and.html


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:29:59 PM   
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You realize that's just a blog entry, don't you?  


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You write like Freddy/Fanny had anything to do with the meltdown.

That`s narrative preferred by those of the conservative persuasion.

They didn`t,according to Alan Greenspan who at his recent mea culpa/congressional testimony.

He and the other big wigs with him were specifically asked by a congressmen about the Freddy/Fanny blaming effort and he and the others said that Freddy/Fanny weren`t the problem.

Greenspan admitted that he was wrong and that deregulation of banks was the problem.

This is not necessarily to inform you,but to counter the mis-information you`re parroting.

http://www.businessweek.com/investing/insights/blog/archives/2008/09/fannie_mae_and.html


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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:31:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sanity given your post I wouldn't go around accusing other's of using code words.In point of fact I have nothing to be angry about,the man I voted for will be taking the oath of office on Jan 20 2008...Democracy works and I am exceedingly happy about that...you on the other hand do seem a little upset.

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:32:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I`m not refering to that blog artical.

I saw Greenspan say this on the tube myself.

Sorry ol chumm.

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:36:36 PM   
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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:47:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

but you gotta have a link to back up your claim.....cause i do not believe it!
Here's a whole bunch of them, take your pick.

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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:47:13 PM   
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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 9:56:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

but you gotta have a link to back up your claim.....cause i do not believe it!




The congressmen was quite adamant and specific and asked each guy at the witness table(including Greenspan) about Freddy and Fanny`s roll in the meltdown.

They all said Freddy and Fanny didn`t have a roll.

A republican started things off by asking the witnesses if they knew that Barack was the biggest recipient of money from Freddy/Fanny(another line of BS).

Greenspan responded that neither entity had a roll in the meltdown.

Then,............a democrat congressmen went down the line and every guy agreed with Greenspan.

He wanted this to made clear by all the witnesses and was able to do so.

Greenspan admitting he was wrong about his economic approaches was alarming and very honest at the same time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/24/economics-creditcrunch-federal-reserve-greenspan

Republicans don`t know it,but Greenspan put a knife right into the heart of conservative economic theory.

It`s now bleeding out and will be dead and buried after the election.




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RE: Joe The Plumber Thread - 10/31/2008 10:05:48 PM   
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