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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 5:58:56 PM

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So.... upping my baths from one a week to two a week won't cut it?

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 7:07:33 PM

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Me..."Oh gosh, that's awful....when did that happen?". Him...."About 5 years ago."
Me..." 5 years ago....well surely you must have worked since then???"
Him...."Well no, I haven't found a job that is willing to pay me what I was making".
Me...."Wow, how do you survive?"
Him...."Well I'm kind of ashamed to admit this but....my Mom helps me out".

Did he have "Loser" tattoed on his forehead yet?

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 7:09:04 PM

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Did he have "Loser" tattoed on his forehead yet?

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Oh how I wish. Just think of how much time that would save!

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 7:15:03 PM

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If you want to be taken seriously…..you should seriously take a good hard look at the image you are presenting.
I really could go on but my purpose in writing this is to get folks to take a look at themselves. As I said….no one needs to be perfect. But I do believe that there are some things that are implied and assumed when you attach that “dominant” label to yourself. Being in control of yourself and your life should certainly be the starting point. Beyond these basics one should start to look at things like emotional control, honesty, how they deal with crisis, communication. ALL of those things should be given priority at a higher level than how kinky you are, how horny you are, how many toys you have or how well you can use them. Just saying…..

I think my concern of how people see me is as important to me as flees on my neighbor's cat.

The only person I need to present an image for approval is the person I see in the mirror each morning. I am not trying to be something or present a specific image for the wooing or admiration of another. I am who I am... If I am not content with where I am... I am going to make some changes... just so happens... I fairly content in most things. However... I am becoming more aware of my improving on my lifestyle to be more healthy. The previous year, I basically lived in Hotels and ate in restrauants. I worked way to many hours (still do actually) for a healthy long-term lifetstyle. I developed alot of poor habits and these habits are transferring into the rest of the household. Several months ago... I have been taking steps to reverse the trend... eating better, more regular sleeping patterns, and working towards a exercise program that is do able for me. This is all about who I see in the mirror... I seek to improve myself.. in fact.. that is been my way for a very very long time... I guess you could say that is a significant part of who I am. But... what I will improve is for the person in the mirror and not for others. Fortunate for those that seek and do become part of my life... They will come along for the ride... of course its' not a free ride either... they will be in my life because they can contribute to me being a better me that I am always striving to be.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 7:23:34 PM

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He started getting up at 4 am and leaving the house without explaination. He would return in the late afternoon and he was freshly showered. My mother was beside herself. They would argue. Finally, a time later...he brought her one of his pay stubs...he had been working at the local meat packing plant, shoving full grown hogs down a conveyer belt and was showering at a fellow teachers house before coming home so that he wouldnt come in covered in sweat and blood. He had a Masters Degree and was pushing hogs shoulder to shoulder with some of the same students that he had taught in high school a few years prior...some of whom he was partially responsible for flunking out of school. He was facing demons in himself and still supporting his family and all the while doing a job that required so much more physical stamina than he was really comfortable with at the time. He did this because he was my father and her husband and he had responsibilities to uphold.

I relate to this on several levels. On one, because its an example I have seen in my grandfather, and a great uncle, who did what they had to to make things work. Neither ever got rich or had a lot in life... but they put food on the table and kept the bills paid. They both taught me the lesson that a man does what he has too.

On another more personal level I relate to it in my own life. As an entrepreneur trying to keep businesses going during the current economic ups and downs... its tough and I'm having to do what I have to to keep things going. That has meant working 14 and 16 hour days, making less money than some of my employees, and setting aside dating or having a D/s relationship until things are more stable. Its not how I want things to be, its just how they are and all I can do is suck it up and deal with it... because like those before me... you do what you have too.

The only thing I sometimes wonder about is this... if I can survive the next 6 months I'll be okay... and in about 5-6 years I should be debt free (not even a mortgage) with a tidy monthly income that will allow my a very comfortable lifestyle... an I'll have earned it. But assuming that at that point I actually do have that "dream" relationship... will she, or they, appreciate what it took for me to get there?

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 8:06:35 PM

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... will she, or they, appreciate what it took for me to get there?

I suspect she would appreciate it more if she help you get there... Of course... it's not so easy to find such a person.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 8:33:55 PM

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Thats what im referring to...when i was growing up, my father was a teacher and quit for several years to do other things. When he tried to go back to teaching there were no openings and he was unemployed for a while...not sure how long...and this is why im not sure...

He started getting up at 4 am and leaving the house without explaination. He would return in the late afternoon and he was freshly showered. My mother was beside herself. They would argue. Finally, a time later...he brought her one of his pay stubs...he had been working at the local meat packing plant, shoving full grown hogs down a conveyer belt and was showering at a fellow teachers house before coming home so that he wouldnt come in covered in sweat and blood. He had a Masters Degree and was pushing hogs shoulder to shoulder with some of the same students that he had taught in high school a few years prior...some of whom he was partially responsible for flunking out of school. He was facing demons in himself and still supporting his family and all the while doing a job that required so much more physical stamina than he was really comfortable with at the time. He did this because he was my father and her husband and he had responsibilities to uphold.
For whatever issues we had in our lives while he was alive, i am grateful to have that one story. In this one instance, he was truly in control.
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What a wonderful story. If only this attitude were shared by more people. More than merely paying bills and putting food on the table, he set an example of responsibility.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/30/2008 10:06:54 PM

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Face it most people and many being brought up today are not being taught the proper values of honor to ones family, chivalry, and doing what you have to do to survive.
Far to many think life owes them something and they shouldn't have to work for it.
It's sad but true.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/31/2008 8:46:49 AM

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Instead of putting their best foot forward they are shooting themselves in the foot.

You would think this would be obvious, huh. A lot of people are clueless. Women too, unfortunately. You should have seen some of the getups prospective subs have showed up in during our first meet. I do think it says a lot about a person's character.

On the other hand, if this is how they regularly dress, I suppose it is good to find that out right up front!

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/31/2008 9:38:08 AM

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Face it most people and many being brought up today are not being taught the proper values of honor to ones family, chivalry, and doing what you have to do to survive.
Far to many think life owes them something and they shouldn't have to work for it.
It's sad but true.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/31/2008 7:51:11 PM

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... will she, or they, appreciate what it took for me to get there?

I suspect she would appreciate it more if she help you get there... Of course... it's not so easy to find such a person.

Sadly that's proven all too true. It seems many are more interested in the final result (and the benefits that come with it) but have little interest in the process it takes to get there. A fact that has colored my thoughts of late.

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 10/31/2008 8:57:32 PM

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Someday I'm going to write a book titled Bad Dates.
Vanilla and D/s, I seem to have a knack for meeting very weird people!

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RE: What foot are you putting forward? - 11/1/2008 12:40:42 PM

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Ah yes the “Instruction” for Men on how to be. Always enjoyable, sort reminds ME of the list for being a “good” boyfriend or husband.
Odd how often when a Dominant Man comes along He’s suddenly too much……
But hey what would I know? I’m just a retro sexual Dominant Man for 4+ decades.
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So when all you men are finished learning how to be Men from the “ladies”…..
Enjoy your wonder-filled day

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