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Aynne88 -> RE: If you Love me, you will hurt me. (11/1/2008 12:31:58 PM)

 
Katy I agree with that completely. Everyone expects subs/slaves to push their limits, but why is it so wrong to express our needs to our Dominants, especially when they are not just Doms, but in my case, my Master and my true love? When we first started he was more along the lines of kinkier play, medical, and a full M/s dynamic which of course I was fine with. However I always felt I needed a more sadistic partner, even though he is my first ( and my last I know ) Master, I just knew that I craved that kind of fulfillment. I do believe initially he was a bit unsure of it, but on our first meeting he flogged me until my skin was breaking and he stopped only because our initial meeting was not at our home, it was in a hotel, and also because he was unsure of leaving permanent marks on me. Now he and I have discussed this at length and just like he as awakened many desires in me that I thought once were "hard limits" and now  I love them and the only limits I have are his, he also has realized that pain from him, from his hands, his implements, creates a bond and an intensity that is incredible. He is now much more of a sadist and for me I always felt it was a latent desire he had, he had just not found the right woman to own and make his slave and trust enough to "go  there". When I think of him and how he "hurts" me, it makes me feel so loved, owned, and fully submissive and I am so grateful that he was willing to listen to the needs and desires of his girl as I certainly did for him, tearing down my fears and insecurities was the most wonderful thing he could have done for me, and I like to think that maybe I also helped him to do the same, and the result is a relationship where we are both fully exploring and realizing passion and ownership beyond our wildest dreams.  When he hurts me, I know exactly who I am and who I belong to.     

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I've never understood the "I love you too much to hurt you" thing.  I see love as an opportunity to reveal a deeper intimacy and putting all sorts of things out there, and that includes, for some people, the infliction and acceptance of pain. 





Twicehappy2x -> RE: If you Love me, you will hurt me. (11/2/2008 6:39:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rover

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ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile2

"If you love me, you will hurt me"...  "I trust you, please trust me that you are not causing me any great or real harm"...   The pain you inflict is indeed an expression of your love for me.Something for people to think about for a moment.


But if i were confronted with "if you love me, you'll hurt me" I'd be very tempted to reply "I'm doing my best and if you love me you'd keep your yap shut next time you're tempted to say something like that".


I think the"if you love me, you'll hurt me" statement could be easily answered with this;
 
"if you loved me you stop asking me to hurt you and understand why i can't hurt you" statement. 




daddysliloneds -> RE: If you Love me, you will hurt me. (11/2/2008 6:45:46 AM)

if you love me, then you'll understand that you don't try to manipulate or guilt trip me into doing/being something that i am not; something that you desire for your own selfish reasons. the end!




WhiplashSmile2 -> RE: If you Love me, you will hurt me. (11/2/2008 1:04:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds
if you love me, then you'll understand that you don't try to manipulate or guilt trip me into doing/being something that i am not; something that you desire for your own selfish reasons. the end!

Again, this post was not about guilt tripping.  It was about looking at Love not as a Road Block, but looking at a manner that is liberating.

You totally have the wrong impression of what I have tried so very hard to express here..  You you are too caught up in one PHRASE alone.. 

Dugh....





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