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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 6:43:41 AM

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When are people going to STOP looking at skin color PERIOD!!!????

Interesting question, when are people going to stop looking at hair color, body features, eye color, gender, and such. My guess is when everyone becomes blind, or some time after they pass away.

What I'm alluding to is the attitude.. if somone is sucessful or unsucessful.. how many look at their color and say "figures (snort)". Then they evaluate further.."Heh..he's not black enough or he's too white!"

I say. who the f**k CARES so long as he gets the job done!

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 7:01:07 AM

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People will quit looking at skin color when we all quit making it an issue. We never seem to strive for the meritbased society. Instead, we either err on the bigotted side mentioned by Lotus or on the other extreme of treating people with a different skin color with extreme kid gloves and even preferential treatments in some cases.
Each of us needs to treat every frakkin body the frakkin same. If I skin a white guy and a black guy they will both be pink, red and dead when I'm done. Both will turn gray shortly thereafter.
I have a friend who has taken me into his family as a brother. He, like Barrack, is "halfrican." (Thats his word not mine.) His father was a Black Panther in the day and professes to hate all whites. He refers to me as colorless and has given me a stay of execution. Thats the way to change things. One person at a time, starting with ourselves. Thats the only way it will ever happen.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 7:08:59 AM

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When are people going to STOP looking at skin color PERIOD!!!????

i have heard it said that if we wake up and all share same race, religion, social status, etc., by nightfall we would have found something else to be prejudice about.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 9:59:24 AM

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When are people going to STOP looking at skin color PERIOD!!!????

i have heard it said that if we wake up and all share same race, religion, social status, etc., by nightfall we would have found something else to be prejudice about.

I saw this quote: "I can't wait until we are all the same color.. then we can hate each other on the basis of our character"

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 11:07:54 AM

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You would have thought we would have the attitude erased by now.. we had such hopes.. many, many years ago

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 12:37:36 PM

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it could be when someone can say "i don't like him for the office because of his political views" and the conversation ends there.

Didn't you get the memo? Not liking Obama's political views IS attacking him because of his race.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 3:37:21 PM

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Lotus, I must say that I am not pleased that you started this thread, but I appreciate that reminder about that episode. I remember it, Beela or something like that was an establishment type and was hunting Loki. His kind, well when Beela was confronted with "You look the same to me" he pointed out that Loki was black on the (left/right) side while he was black on the (right/left) side. Don't remember which. I do, however remember that when they got back to their planet, Sharan, everyone else had killed each other. They were the only two left and then killed each other. So I need no clip.

Actually the only reason that I am not pleased here is because I was about to start a Star Trek thread. I won't let it bother me, because taking the wind out of my sails so to speak will give me more time to think. Of course that might result in a longer OP, at which time you might want to kick yourself. Sorry.

Thing is, Rodenberry had a way of projecting people's traits in general to other, though fictional, species'. Many of the plots of the original series brought up moral issues. In fact this brings up a tertiary point now.

A Black comedian had a joke about Star Trek, he said "If you were Black, and on that show for the first time, you are sure to get your ass killed", and it was true. Whatever Rodenberry's attitude, the casting crew either wanted to evoke sympathy or something like that, or they did not want Blacks on the show. You be the judge, I didn't make those decisions I just watched it.

And when does it end ? NEVER. Color of skin is a matter of looks mainly, but what happens if you look at someone who is ugly or something ? Or overweight, obese in fact. Or hideously deformed. There is no stopping those types of human reactions, all we can do is think past them and use our will of logic. Logic dictates that we know ourselves, and use that knowledge for the betterment of at least ourselves. If not, we might end up just like the planet Sharan.

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Staying alive on Star Trek had nothing to do with skin color.....it was those damn shirts. Anyone wearing a red shirt was fair game and rarely made it to another episode.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/1/2008 3:38:29 PM

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I have heard many people give reasons for not voting for Obama....not one of them mentioned race. Maybe I am not hanging out with the right crowd.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/2/2008 2:20:30 PM

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I think some guy named Chad is hanging around in Florida to steall votes again. Thats just what I heard.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/2/2008 4:29:58 PM

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I can't help wondering when this pathetic advertising budget arms race will end.
That anyone would vote for any of these refugees from the circus is beyond me.
I can't say I would trust any of them with my dirty washing.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/2/2008 6:03:34 PM

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Sadly, in this country, we run candidates for electability and charisma. Merit is not taken into accounting. That way, we can complain about the worthless bastard for the next 4 to 8 years of ineptitude.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/2/2008 6:31:50 PM

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FR to the concept of people seeing difference -

I don't think people will ever stop looking at differences in people. I don't think we should and i think its ridiculous we advocate sameness instead of celebrating our differences. Its why you ridiculously have women wanting to be Men, you have races trying to advocate how they are alike, you have cultures trying to incorporate sameness instead of being comfortable with their beliefs. I think noting difference in people are very important. There are differences in Men and women, there are differences in races, there are differences in skin colors, there are differences that allow us to be individuals. I personally have no wish and never will see everyone as "the same." To me individuality and differences are important to acknowledge.

I hope people never stop looking at the differences between people. What i do hope for is people stop drawing assumptions about people because of the differences that make each of us individuals.

angel

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 5:57:09 AM

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hes going to be assassinated. the goal is to take the US into chaos. erase national sovernty so the globalists can rule all countries. it has been slowly happining to render nations irrelevant. he was put in to take out hillary, but now he will be disposed of as well. they will stop at nothing to turn the US 3rd world

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 6:12:04 AM

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there are differences in races

Not biologically there aren't: "race" is nothing more than a socio-cultural construct. But you already knew that, right?

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 6:13:05 AM

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Hunky, I like you, but do you hear yourself sometimes

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 6:17:07 AM

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Hunky, I like you, but do you hear yourself sometimes ?

if it makes you feel better, ill revise that to say -

everyhing is sugar plums and dancing faries? lol

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 11:06:13 AM

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Kittinsol,

If you want to be technical, actually biologically there ARE differences in race they may not be huge or significant all the time but that is why when you have bones at times the med. examiner can decipher the possible race of person with just looking at the bones structure especially at times with skulls and facial structure -- but you knew that already i am sure.

angel

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 11:33:56 AM

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You are wrong, but since it's quite obvious that you are not interested in facts, there's little point in continuing an off tangent discussion.

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 11:45:33 AM

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until you have experienced both sides, you people have no clue!

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RE: When Does It End? - 11/3/2008 11:47:29 AM

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Since you don't know about my side, and what I have experienced, you're banging your head against the wall for nothing.

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