SimplyMichael
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There are things I couldn't get BSB to do for me in a million years, there are things I could force her to do, there are things I could get her to do if I asked nicely, and there are things she would beg for. Trust me that those are far different than other women. That said, many would look at her and say "wow, hot chick but a lousy slave" and others would say "what beautiful submission" when they watch her with me. Which is the truth? To some extent both are true although for her and I, only one of those is, she is the least submissive to me of all the woman I have been with but she is the best slave I have ever had. Calculate THAT one! To me, because I know how counter to her nature that submission is, it means far more to me than any I have ever experienced before.
What I see when I read that is that you have a relationship with a woman who is, to a degree, submissive to you. I would not consider her a slave, as it appears her submission is too conditional for what I would allow for a slave. Your description of her, as a slave, and as the best slave you have had, strikes me as an emotional one. This is how you wish to see her because of your own sentimental attachment to her. You are applying an image to her that has value to you because she has a similar value to you, but this is a subjective valuation on your part. I hope, however, that you will read that for the honest response it is and consider it as such, rather than doing as most would and react to it as some sort of personal attack (which it is not) causing them to launch into a defense of their relationship. I think you are capable of doing so, and in fact, I'm counting on it. Hopefully, it will be a springboard for another interesting discussion.
We are both applying images that have value to us.
In my case, I have owned and or been with women who most men WOULD consider slaves but to me, that submission wasn't all that valuable for me or them. In other cases the women were the very picture of a perfect slave and yet that "slavery" was very much about them wanting to be seen as the perfect slave, it wasn't something I evoked in them. All of them were wonderful woman and excellent partners but to me, none of them was the slave I wanted.
To me, the harder one has to overcome one's nature in order to give that submission the more value that submission has, the more counter to your nature, the greater the meaning it has to me. That part is easy to put into words, there is also something indescribable that BSB gives me that evokes the meaning of slave. It is perhaps her allowing me to reshape her in ways she has given to no other and probably would never again. It means little to me when a dog comes up, tail wagging asking to be pet, however, when the cat who allows no one to pet her comes over and rolls over so you can scratch her belly, it fills me with a deep satisfying joy. BSB is very much like that cat and is very much my slave despite our current difficulties.
Which is why I stated that in my post the way I did, clearly many would not see her as a slave (classic definition) but she DOES meet my own individual definition. How you choose to see her through your own lens is entirely up to you but make no mistake, we are both "applying an image to her that has value to" us.
< Message edited by SimplyMichael -- 11/2/2008 11:03:22 AM >
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