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Form Letters and One Liners - 11/2/2008 11:31:13 PM   
WidowSpiders


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Status: offline 		Sadly, making a post on this board is like preaching to the choir. The majority of people here seem to be eloquent and thoughtful.

Ugh.

That said...

Care to speculate as to why the vast majority of people on this site send one-lines and form letters?

To those who have done so, have you found more or less success with those forms of communication?
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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/2/2008 11:50:49 PM   
RCdc


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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 12:06:12 AM   
monywildcat


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Status: offline 		The ones that send out the form letters and one line "how r u" emails are lazy, they are wankers looking to cast a very wide net hoping for a bite, who freaking knows why they do, I sure wish they would send some more my way, I love a good laugh. 

I would never think to send anything of that nature.  If I am going to spend time to send a message to someone, it's going to be a good one, that is custom to the comment, observation, or the interest that spurned me into action. 

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 12:56:13 AM   
AquaticSub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WidowSpiders

Care to speculate as to why the vast majority of people on this site send one-lines and form letters?



My guess is that it's easy. It lets them send a lot of messages very quickly and by casting a wide net they may be increasing their odds. I'm sure that it's worked for someone at least once though the ratio of letters sent out and the positive responses they get back is probably high.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 3:13:10 AM   
LydiaSciKitten


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Status: offline 		My guess is that that majority of people who are eloquent and thoughtful, are also taken. The one's going around throwing one-liners at people are obviously the people that have become desperate, and probably for a good reason.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 3:22:09 AM   
hopelessfool


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Status: offline 		I send out a one liner, and ususally i send it to nearly everyone i wish to speak to.

why because the likely hood of rejection on the site, no matter your gender, or "label" is high,

A simple" How are you today?" seems to be the easiest way to go, its none threatening, its not pushy, but its just pushy enough. It says as others who've responded. That you want to know about simply me not the kind.

I dont do it because im lazy, or because im sending out 4 thousand messages at a time. Simply because not all profiles give you something to comment on, and "why dont you have a profile" is rude. As well as if somoene Never responds, or deletes unread, there isnt 20 minutes of unrefundable time spent on toughtful words strung together  and wasted on a dickwad...


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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 4:08:41 AM   
Twicehappy2x


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Status: offline 		My opening emails during our search for a male sub for Jewel are all personal.
 
Once we become acquainted to the point of mutual interest i have three standard sub letters i send out. I am upfront that they are form letters.
 
One is a basic questionnaire about need to know things like allergies, debts, pets, etc.
 
One describes where/how we live, and how the household operates. It also answers on our part all the questions we asked of the sub in the first form letter. 
 
The third specifically addresses play/kink/sex, this one is standard but is adjusted after reading the individuals kink profile. There might be some kinks they listed they need to know just is not going to happen here and why. And they need to know up front who they are going to be limited to as far as sexual interaction is concerned.
 
I use form letters for this because they are pretty big letters that time and experience in our search has taught us are need to know/ask info that is just too much to remember each time we speak to somebody new. 

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 4:21:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Guys on here usually don't get an answer no matter if they spend an hour reading profile, journal, forum postings, and then crafting a personalized letter. If you commonly did all that work and got nothing for it, wouldn't you stop  bothering also?

The odds are bad enough for male doms, for male subs it's like winning the lottery - damn near impossible. So why waste your time when you'll get the same answer?

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 4:32:44 AM   
marieToo


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Usually I'm the type to respond to emails that are polite and thoughtful, but my patience runs thin for form letters and one- liners.  I get mail all the time that says "hello" or "good morning".  I don't respond to them because it leaves no where to go with it.  It feels like it's dead in the water to me.  If someone writes and tells me that they saw something in my profile that might lend itself to mutual compatibility, then it leads to conversation.  If I want to go back and forth with hello, hi, how are you, good, how are you, I'll sit in a chat room and waste my time with meaningless chatter.  If I write someone, I tell them why I'm writing and what it was about their profile that caught my eye.  And this may sound kind of cunty but if a potential dom can't show enough initiative to move towards something he might want, then I know he's not the right man for me.  "Hello", in and of itself, doesn't exactly mark an assertive man in control, not to me anyway.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 5:11:08 AM   
Twicehappy2x


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

The odds are bad enough for male doms, for male subs it's like winning the lottery - damn near impossible. So why waste your time when you'll get the same answer?


Funny, unless either of us gets an obvious wanker email (you know, "have cam, am hard, wanna im?") both Jewl and i always answer any polite email.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 5:12:20 AM   
MissIsis


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Status: offline 		They might feel like they are wasting their time & are frustrated.  It is hard to say.   I suppose each has their own reason.  I generally try to at least respond to every email that is sent to me, even if to say I am not interested.  Most people are thoughtful when they write.  There was one person who obviously spent a good deal of time putting together a very detailed email to me.  I forget now, why I wasn't interested, but it was pretty clear at the beginning of the email that we weren't compatible.  I really didn't have the time to do more than skim through it.  I thanked the person & acknowledged that I knew they spent time on the message, but that I wasn't interested.   To which, he replied back that he had wasted an hour on it.  He was clearly frustrated.  And to be honest, I felt bad for the guy.

I always appreciate a brief paragraph or two.  But I really, really detest the emails I get that simply say "hi, or good morning."  If I had the time or patience for that, I would hang out in a chat room somewhere. 

I guess it is just part of being on a site like this, that we will get emails that will sometimes not be as welcome as others.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 5:32:13 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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Status: offline 		nope i don't waste energy wondering why some from Nigeria and Ghana send me form letters in my bulk mail.  ignore, block and delete are my best friends.

i save the best ones for the thread What IdiotsWrite.


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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 5:51:13 AM   
silkenfire


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Status: offline 		I never sent form letters or one liners when I was searching. However, I suppose I could note, the only people that I ever was "interested in" or "moved forward in talking with" were people with whom I initiated the contact, and therefore hadn't had an impersonal reply.

Master probably wouldn't have messaged me and it's really blind luck that I messaged him as we both had very brief profiles at the time that we met on here. As luck would have it, we were both good at keeping each others attention in our messages until a few days later I decided we should just "do something" and we've been together in real life ever since (even with an 84 mile commute which I now make almost every day).



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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 6:38:35 AM   
antipode


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Status: offline 		There are two reasons. One is the one other have mentioned. The second (an this is from my own research, and that of colleagues, in a telecommunications lab) is that there is now an entire generation that grew up with the PC and on the Interweb , and communicates almost exclusively online. I've seen a similar phenomenon in the corporation (300,000 employees), when we introduced all-electronic communications, and phased in online conferencing, and IM, on top of the Lotus Notes that was already there.

It turns out that specifically the youngsters multitask enormously, in ways that did not exist before. A teenager will eat, study, IM on the PC, and text on the cell, all at the same time. Those of you who have kids (I am saying this for the benefit of those who don't, and those outside of North America) are familiar with teenagers having conversations on both lines of the call waiting simultaneously - this has only gotten more intense. So at leat some of the onliners are caused by their "need for speed" - for them, a oneliner is a sentence in a conversation. Look at some of the postings by 18 year olds here - they don't write, they converse, so, for them, a single sentence "probe", to see what comes back, or just a sentence in a conversation, is totally normal. They just have too much to do, and too many people to communicate with. You think it is rude, for them, it is normal. They're commuinicators.

And if you think it is bad here, go to Beijing, as I just have done, and get on the subway. 85% of everybody under 30 on the subway will be texting. Continuously. In many countries, texting is a bigger revenue maker than voice communications. That is the new standard.



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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 10:01:39 AM   
stella41b


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Status: offline 		It never ceases to amaze me how hung up people get when it comes to form. What does it matter if it's a one liner or a form letter? It's still attention, and good or bad it's still better than not receiving any attention at all. I mean if you didn't receive such traffic into your box or any traffic at all we would be getting 'Why doesn't anyone reply to me?' type threads.

All that I ask for is that it's coherent, relevant and civil.

Antipode however does hit the nail right on the head, we live in a different age with advanced technology and so we communicate differently, and that one liner and form letter IS communication, and no, the person isn't being lazy, but making an approach of some sorts.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 10:17:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Stella, I'd honestly be surprised if you ever wrote a one line anything.  Not everyone is graced with your skill.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 10:22:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I find one liners to be annoying simply because it strikes me as "fishing", waiting to see how many replies they will get back before putting any actual effort into the contact. And Form letters are impersonal and are NOT attention. Attention means the person involved has made some effort to specifically contact YOU, not to see a red or pink or blue name and fire off a pre-composed note because of what color the name was. More often than not, they dont even know what the name was they sent to.
I dont like a form that makes me a plug and play part of a fantasy.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 10:31:00 AM   
OmegaG


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Status: offline 		Depends on what I get.

Most of the time one-liners make me nervous, especially when they haven't viewed my profile.  I suspect that they approached me based on my picture and sooner or later I'm going to have to tell them that their efforts are in vain.  But every now an again a one-liner is sent out by someone who just happens to by shy or not blessed with word-smithing and they want to talk but aren't sure what to say and if I can segue a topic of interest, a great friendship is in the making.

I've encountered two types of form letters-- the "scams" which are basically "you are so wonderful, I just have to fall in love with you , Angel" which means to me that someone is simply thowing spit balls onto the celing hoping one will stick.

But the second type of form letter reads more resume-ish and that type tends to come, once again, from the bashful and tongue tied person who is making every attempt to reach out in a medium that he/she is not at home with.  With those types of form letters I am far more forgiving, allowing further contat to see what kind of conversation will evolve.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 10:40:31 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		When i was looking if i got a form letter i would send back "nice form letter how about writing me a real e mail".  As for one linres, thank God i answwered them.  Masters first contact with me was a one liner , and the rest as they say is history.  Here we are almost 3 years later and going strong.

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RE: Form Letters and One Liners - 11/3/2008 11:08:03 AM   
panthersub


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Status: offline 		Only the person who sends the one liner messages to people will know the answer to that question. Or i could say it's because they don't want to put in the time to say something. On the other hand though, some one line messages i am ok with, more so the ones that are complimenting. Others though, i will respond with usually a one word answer. That tends to stop all further messages from the person.

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