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wannabslave19 -> crossdressing (11/5/2008 7:10:55 AM)

Is it really humiliating for a male slave to cross dress?
do mistresses find pleasure in this.I mean a slave wearing his mistress's undergarments




DiurnalVampire -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 7:13:53 AM)

I find no pleasure in my slave wearing my undergarments. He has his own, both masculine and femenine.
I do enjoy seeing him in the ones he owns, which is why I got them for him.
It is not humiliating for him to wear them, at all. He rather enjoys them, and they remind him he is owned. That is what he puts on when he wants to look pretty and effeminate for me, as opposed to looking masculine.
I am sure some male slaves find the crossdressing to be humiliating, but not all.

DV




OttersSwim -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 7:56:15 AM)

Diurnal has the right of it.  If you do a search on the forums here you will find endless threads about crossdressing.  Understand that many Mistresses are not into it, but some are.  Balance of this desire in yourself is key.  I do not find it humiliating at all to be dressed en'femme.  I love it and it feels natural and normal...and a little bit sexy!  [:)]

EDIT:  I wanted to add that there is significant controversy over crossdressing and humiliation.  It would be wise to discover the arguments for and against and educate yourself in them to understand why many Mistresses find this concept objectionable, and rightfully so.




MistressOfGa -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 8:22:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wannabslave19

Is it really humiliating for a male slave to cross dress?
do mistresses find pleasure in this.I mean a slave wearing his mistress's undergarments

It depends. If the slave is not into wearing womens clothing, it can be very humiliating for him to be forced to wear pretty undergarments. It can be embarrassing to him and make him feel extremely uncomfortable. I personally would not find pleasure in doing this to my male slave. I want him to be happy, if he is being forced to wear my panties, the chances of him being happy is nil.
 
On the other hand, if this is something that the slave enjoys, then no, I can't see him being humiliated by it. My x-sub was the happiest when he felt "pretty" and I enjoyed applying make up to his face and dressing him in frilly clothing. The pleasure was on both sides of the slash.
 
I subscribe to the fact that if a sub/slave of mine is not happy, I will not be happy. Since I enjoy being happy, I make sure my sub is happy too :)




ShiftedJewel -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 1:05:08 PM)

I'm not into crossdressing. I can't, I'm sorry, I just can't deal with a guy that wants to wear womens clothes. Hell, I can barely force ME to dress like a female!!
 
lmao
 
Jewel




MistressOfGa -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 3:13:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

I'm not into crossdressing. I can't, I'm sorry, I just can't deal with a guy that wants to wear womens clothes. Hell, I can barely force ME to dress like a female!!
 
lmao
 
Jewel


LMAO!!




Shawn1066 -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 3:42:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wannabslave19

Is it really humiliating for a male slave to cross dress?


No, not for this one.

DV's Fox




iwearpanties -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 5:51:12 PM)

as a long time panty wearing male i to enjoy wearing but the humiliation  of it i dont see. however now make a guy corssdress take him  public or make him expose himslef tooother maleswhen crossdressed  now that may be humiliateiong but some sub males into crossdressing seek that maybe  to them there being humiliated???    there are some many diffrent ways and thigns you can add of take away form it 




MsStarlett -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 5:59:22 PM)

Cross dressing for those who enjoy it is fine.  I know several female impersonators who simply adore women so much that their ultimate goal in life is to emulate one. 

Cross dressing for humiliation pisses me off.  It goes all the way back to watching Milton Burl in a dress.  As if being an ugly woman was the funniest thing in the world.  Or that simply being female was something 'less' than being male... therefor to dress as a woman is humiliating and emasculating because of the perception that women are inferior to men. 

Hope you can see where I'm coming from on that subject.




Reigna -> RE: crossdressing (11/5/2008 6:44:15 PM)

For many males, crossdressing--"forced" or otherwise--is humiliating. They are both turned on and made anxious by being female and thus symbolically losing their penises. Search for Lady Ellen's posts on this topic. (Apologies to those who are infuriated by psychodynamic explanations. I find the mix of anxiety and arousal absolutely fascinating, from both intellectual and practical perspectives.)




SanDieoSub -> RE: crossdressing (11/6/2008 1:30:16 AM)

I think I may be in the rare case that I enjoy it, but am also humiliated by it, but not because of the perception that women are inferior to men as the beautiful  MsStarlett suggested, although I do completely see your point.

I think it has to do with that males wearing panties (or something girly) is so unaccepted by the mass of society that it is embarrasing to a male by common social standards.  It does seem to be a one-way street, because males do not have that difinitive of cothing type (males wear jeans so do women). 

If women wear boxers, it might be bit odd, but not really embarrasing.  Probably, just because of geometry, we dont fit in your clothes the same, its obviously quite revealling.




wannabslave19 -> RE: crossdressing (11/6/2008 1:52:48 AM)

see i no way say that men are superior.its just that wearing a tight bra is not easy for men.see i guess it is more a mild torture than humilition........
well iam not a male chauvinist and belive that all are equal




iwearpanties -> RE: crossdressing (11/7/2008 1:25:13 AM)

honestly i think you a sub say humiliation for being crossdressed or made too wear panties or bras or dare i say that odd word  Froced Fem . i think too many times as submissives we see on Pro Dome web sites these two things placed together and this now gets to be a mental fantasy or mind fuck?   maybe its would  humiliateing to the submissive if he or she is exposed to others and seen  as a male in panties / bra and other female attrie  . now if the sub is seen by other men the sub male feel the humiliation or might even seek that ?????/




ineedotk -> RE: crossdressing (11/8/2008 7:20:37 PM)

Obviously, if a sub is into that kind of thing, then he probably would not be humiliated by crossdressing, except maybe in a public situation.




LPslittleclip -> RE: crossdressing (11/12/2008 7:49:14 PM)

my M'Lady is not into crossdresing. myself i dot see a problem with it i dont desire to cross dress but i would like some more selection in the mens department. i have a diffrent view on garments than most as i have been deployed to other countrys. the idea of what is feminine and masculine is diffrent around the world. in nature it is the male that gets "dressed" up and the females that are dun or ordinary colored. in most cultures it is oppsite and the female can be dressed up or plain but the male can only be plainly dressed. to answer the op for it to be humiliating to the sub it would have to be from the subs cultural background and the same for the dominant to enjoy it as well.




MissAllyKat -> RE: crossdressing (11/13/2008 12:49:33 AM)

I have threatened a boy (who likes to sniff my panties) with wearing them if I ever find any are missing. *giggles* and I would make him do it too!

I am not into crossdressing per se. If someone identifies as being of female gender that is one thing and I am totally for that.

It is another thing entirely to identify as male and enjoy wearing women's clothing for the sake of the clothes. It is this aspect that I can't wrap my head around. I have chatted (in person/online) with a couple of crossdressers and I am more inclined to think that this is not my thing, but until I get a chance to experience it I am not sure.

I can certainly see Ms Starlett's point, but I do like to push buttons and mind fuck if I can get away with it.  I don't think I would force someone into wearing women's clothes but I might have him really worried about it.

However, for the record if a sniffer sneaked away with something. He would be wearing them under his clothes the next time we went out. However, that falls more into the sphere of appropriate punishment unless of course he found that he enjoyed it and then I would have to find a new threat to keep the boy in line.





Subudomin8 -> RE: crossdressing (11/13/2008 12:56:52 AM)

For me, making a male sub wear panties and other essentially female clothing is a way of diminishing his male gender. I have no feelings of 'prettyness' when I'm standing in front of someone wearing knickers - it just makes me feel more submissive and accepting of the control over me. It can be humiliating, but only if the Domme/Dom wants it to be.




hardbodysub -> RE: crossdressing (11/13/2008 8:27:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ineedotk

Obviously, if a sub is into that kind of thing, then he probably would not be humiliated by crossdressing, except maybe in a public situation.


Unless he's into it BECAUSE of the humiliation.




MsStarlett -> RE: crossdressing (11/14/2008 5:27:25 AM)

I've never seen much point in 'private' humiliation.  It's SO much more fun in public.




iwearpanties -> RE: crossdressing (11/14/2008 6:59:19 AM)

Ms  Starlett

have you had submissive wearing females things for you in public weather its for humiliation or your on enjoyment ?   i feel the humiliation when dressed is haveing too do things such as stand beother male or female while dress or even if only in panties n bra ... 




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