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missturbation -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 5:29:46 PM)

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Presidential targets (a lot of world leaders in fact) are par for the course with assassins. Obama is no different. I would be more surprised if there weren't an attempt since most of our recent presidents have had attempt made on their lives.

Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, Ronald Regan, George Bush and more have all had attempts made on their lives.

Very true.
 
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However, i am sure Obama has considered this possibility and risk and his security will probably make an extra effort to make sure all basis of mentality are convered when checking his security.

I'm sure he has and i hope he will be well protected.






maybemaybenot -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 5:55:10 PM)

miss:

I posted this in the other thread and will repeat it, because I don't think most Americans, let alone non Americans realize this:
There have been assasination attempts and one succesful assasination on every President since Franklin D Roosevelt, save Eisenhower and Johnson. Roosevelt became President in 1933. So we have a pretty good history of nutjobs running around trying to kill Presidents.

So yes, I believe it is a reasonable assumption, not a racial assumption, that there may be an attempt on Obama. There has already been one plot to assasinate him broken up by the Feds. * I * also believe that in Obama's case it would likely be race based. But in the end it is no different than the other attempts: Simply an asshole with a gun and a cause. For me, the cause is irrelevant, the act is the tragedy. 

*I* also believe that the Secret Service/Govt. Intelligence will be able to protect him from harm, as they have the others, save Kennedy. * I * also think it speaks volumes to the job the Secret Service does to protect Presidents and their families that only one idiot with a gun has been successful. Hopefully he will be the last.

                                          mbmbn




TheHeretic -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:13:30 PM)

      The Secret Service is very good at what they do.  And they keep most of it secret.  There are often little tells of just how hard they work, though.  Anybody notice the size of that podium he was standing behind last night?

  




kittinSol -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:16:53 PM)

That's true: if there is one thing the US government is good at, it's the secret service. Obama will be fine - that's what I have to think, otherwise I"d go insane (haha) with worry.




Evility -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:35:22 PM)

I have no faith in Obama but I have every confidence in the people assigned to protect him. He is in good hands.




MadAxeman -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:52:06 PM)

I think a black PM would be very cool.
Some positive role models for educated young black people would help.




kittinSol -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:54:45 PM)

Yes, after Thatch the Snatch enabling other women to benefit from her feminine wisdom, it's the turn of the other minorities of Albion [8D] .




Kirata -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:57:21 PM)

Second to praying that nothing happens, I hope if it does that we don't have to endure learning the story of the asshole's life, how often his mommy burped him, what he wanted to be when he grew up, and how it affected him as a child when his puppy died.
 
K.
 




DesFIP -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 6:59:14 PM)

Secret Service already foiled a skinhead conspiracy against him.
But black, white or purple, assassination attempts on American Presidents happen too damn often.




scarlethiney -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 7:12:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: JumpingJax


LET's Delete this thread.   It serves no purpose to discuss such a thing but maybe stir up some radical thinking.     If that isn't a good enough reason let's consider that the discussion of such things is illegal and I assume therefore against the terms of service here. 





If you don't like it don't post.
CM will pull the thread if they feel it is against TOS or illegal.


He and every one here has just as much right to post an opinion as you do.   I believe what he posted was out of concern and not a critique of your original post. 

scarlet




Musicmystery -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 7:23:22 PM)

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general consesnus seems to be that there will be some kind of assassination attempt on him.


Somebody tries to assassinate EVERY president.

Relax. It's out of your hands, and the Secret Service is actually pretty good at preventing this sort of thing.




FullfigRIMaam -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 9:58:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JumpingJax
LET's Delete this thread.   It serves no purpose to discuss such a thing but maybe stir up some radical thinking.     If that isn't a good enough reason let's consider that the discussion of such things is illegal and I assume therefore against the terms of service here. 
I agree completely Jax, and wish we could delete it.   Alas we cannot, and people love drama; if it's not happening, we have to create it... The darker, the better.   M




michaelOfGeorgia -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 10:02:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I haven't taken much notice of the American election tobe completely honest. I have no idea of either candidates policies or anything.
I wanted Obama to win it though, i wanted to see the first black president. Thing is and i know this may be a very sensitive subject for some and i apologise in advance if it is. There are people out there who will not like having a black president. It has been quite a topic of convo in my pub today and general consesnus seems to be that there will be some kind of assassination attempt on him.
What do you all think?


i think it'll be Kennedy, all over again, (not that i would want that, just my opinion,)




FullfigRIMaam -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 10:06:01 PM)

There you are, ray of sunshine when one is needed again. [sm=whap.gif]  
Fortunately, if your words are anything like your deeds, he should be absolutely and perfectly fine.   M




TheHeretic -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/5/2008 10:37:36 PM)

      LOL.  I checked my email just now, and found a message from Yahoo Hot Jobs that the Secret Service is hiring.  Ya think?




DarkSteven -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/6/2008 2:01:26 AM)

I wouldn't worry about it.

There will be a lot of opposition to Obama, and most of it based on things other than his skin color.  The smart ones will work within the system to change his legislation, reduce his base of power, etc., and do so legally for years.  The dumbshits who hate him because of his race and will try to simply shoot him will be, well, dumb, and will be up against a Secret Service that has decades of experience.




SilverMark -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/6/2008 2:54:12 AM)

Luckily most of those who plot assassinations are entirely idiots that couldn't tie their shoes without a diagram.
I think with all that is there to protect the President it would take more than one nutbag to do it....and as Carlos Marcello always said...."3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead"...




meatcleaver -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/6/2008 3:07:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Yes, after Thatch the Snatch enabling other women to benefit from her feminine wisdom, it's the turn of the other minorities of Albion [8D] .


You have to work your way up a political party in Britain, the electorate doesn't vote directly for the Prime Minister so an Obama phenomena just couldn't happen in Britain. I think that would be the case in many European countries which are parliamentary democracies. The other is, only 3% of the population is black and something like 5% Indian, Pakistani, Chinese etc etc. and there seems to be more prejudice and racism between all of them than there is between white and the minorities so its not as though there is a big support system.




LaTigresse -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/6/2008 3:32:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

wow Morph i totally get why your first post was pulled


Colouredin, you were so much sweeter and kinder than I was going to be......

Oh and morph, it is attitudes like yours that really are a horrid stain on humanity. Personally, I wouldn't care whether the president was muslim or not. As long as they keep their religioun, a personal thing, personal, and their job their job...serving the greater good of the people of the United States. Unlike most far right christian fundies.

To address the OP, every world leader in this time has people that would like to see them dead. It is the ugly nature of our world. I am quite convinced that Mr Obama went into this election with full understanding of that and the risks. I am also certain that it was a discussion with his family members. It is admirable that he would undertake the drive to be president knowing the risks.

Trust me, there is far better protection now than in the Kennedy era, Michael. I have a cousin that served in the secret service during the Clinton presidency. There is an awful lot they do that we really have no clue of.




colouredin -> RE: I have a really bad feeling.................. (11/6/2008 3:38:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Oh and morph, it is attitudes like yours that really are a horrid stain on humanity.


And if i wasnt such a wuss this is what I would have said




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