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allthatjaz -> Fighting? (11/6/2008 9:34:53 AM)
Last night my guy and me had a full on fight. Its something we have previously discussed and both wanted to experiment with. We knew when it happened that it was going to be full on and I knew I was going to have to fight for my life to stand a chance because at the end of the day he is a strong bloke and I'm only little. At first I couldn't stop laughing but then he got me in a head lock on all fours and told me to bark like a good little dog, this enraged me and when he eventually let me go I was surprised with my own strength and determination to make him into a squealing pig! This morning we are both covered in bruises, scratches and clumps of missing hair but we are both feeling very euphoric. Sometimes I question things like this as going too far? I mean is rape with a full on fight going too far for most? does anyone else here do things like this?

celticlord2112 -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 9:44:36 AM)
If you're feeling euphoric, then all's well that ends well. However, it can be a dangerous game to play, and while I would hesitate to say you and he went "too far", this is the sort of play that can go "too far". "Too far" is at whatever point it ceases to be "play" or "experimentation", and becomes a real fight/rape.

ProlificNeeds -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 9:48:40 AM)
My only bad experiences with such things as fighting is when the unexpected happens. An elbow goes amiss, or a bad footing causes an uncontrolled fall... I'm a lot more careful now but I have no desire to stop doing such things. Still makes me think of: "It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!" No one's lost an eye yet.. but I imagine if they did, the fun and games really would be over.

MmeGigs -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 9:54:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: allthatjaz Sometimes I question things like this as going too far? I mean is rape with a full on fight going too far for most? does anyone else here do things like this? Whenever the question is "Does anyone else do this?", the answer is always "Yes." I was at a party a while back where they had a huge wrestling mat set up in a large room. People were wrestling in earnest - there was nothing "play" about most of the matches. You would have thought you were at an actual wrestling meet except that so many of the wrestlers were naked and all the observers were in fetish gear. It was hot as hell to watch, and the participants all seemed to have a wonderful time. If you and your guy are feeling euphoric and don't mind the bruises and missing clumps of hair, does it really matter if this would be going to far for other folks?

mistoferin -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 10:19:41 AM)
Full on fighting has always been one of my favorite forms of play. It is something that I have had to be very careful with though. I tend to be a very competitive person and I really am playing to win. It is easily possible for it to get a bit more heated than the original intent. It is always interesting when I play with a partner that way for the first time. It usually starts out rather playfully with the dominant coming at me in almost a teasing manner...not wanting to really hurt "the girl". After a couple of return strikes landed by me though I usually see this odd look cross their face...and then they begin to ramp it up. It's not a form of play that I would recommend for a lot of people because it can become heated pretty quickly. If you are the type that can handle it though....wow, can it ever be HOT! edited because I can't type

JavamanTN -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 10:51:11 AM)
This is also one of my favorite types of play. I've suffered minor injuries and narrowly avoided some major ones. This type of play and my attraction to it is what inspired me to get back into "fighting shape". Specifically I had a bottom wriggle free while I was throwing her and she came down on my knee nearly dislocating it, then I got roughed up much more than usually by a quick athletic bottom. Between the two I realized I had to be in excellent shape I wanted to keep going down this path. So as long as you and your partner feel good about the next day that's awesome. I recommend working out together so your bodies are less likely to be injured and are able to recover more quickly.

Jeptha -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 10:51:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: allthatjaz Sometimes I question things like this as going too far? I mean is rape with a full on fight going too far for most? does anyone else here do things like this? I'm curious about "erotic fighting", or whatever the heck you would call it, but I've never tried it. I'm sort of attracted and repulsed at the same time. There does seem to be something inherently unequal about it, since the woman seems expected to do her worst, but the male seems expected to demonstrate restraint at all times. But, I have no experience apart from what I've read; do I have that all wrong? I'd ask, what's in it for a guy, besides a possible kick in the scrabble bag?

allthatjaz -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 10:55:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MmeGigs If you and your guy are feeling euphoric and don't mind the bruises and missing clumps of hair, does it really matter if this would be going to far for other folks? Actually no.... I say no because I suppose we don't actually really give a darn and yet interestingly here I am asking the question. We do play some serious edge games and we do know that we continually frighten the living daylights out of one another and we do sometimes say 'one of these days we will both self combust' or 'how far is too far? and will we appreciate that its too far?' We are in the London scene community and we know we have to be careful about what we tell other BDSMers because we fully understand that most would say 'thats insane' or 'you both need help!' whilst a small (very small) minority would run home to try it! I get the impression from this site in particular that there are 'some' who are very much like ourselves. People who we can relate to and share an experience with. I suppose thats why I asked.

allthatjaz -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 10:56:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin Full on fighting has always been one of my favorite forms of play. It is something that I have had to be very careful with though. I tend to be a very competitive person and I really am playing to win. It is easily possible for it to get a bit more heated than the original intent. It is always interesting when I play with a partner that way for the first time. It usually starts out rather playfully with the dominant coming at me in almost a teasing manner...not wanting to really hurt "the girl". After a couple of return strikes landed by me though I usually see this odd look cross their face...and then they begin to ramp it up. It's not a form of play that I would recommend for a lot of people because it can become heated pretty quickly. If you are the type that can handle it though....wow, can it ever be HOT! edited because I can't type Ride on girl!! Thanks for that mistoferin, it made me smile [:D]

Barelily -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:00:16 AM)
If you both agreed and had fun, I don't see the problem lol Disclaimer: This post was made in response to the post made by allthatjaz and is based on my opinion and experiences only.

allthatjaz -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:05:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeptha I'm curious about "erotic fighting", or whatever the heck you would call it, but I've never tried it. I'm sort of attracted and repulsed at the same time. There does seem to be something inherently unequal about it, since the woman seems expected to do her worst, but the male seems expected to demonstrate restraint at all times. But, I have no experience apart from what I've read; do I have that all wrong? I'd ask, what's in it for a guy, besides a possible kick in the scrabble bag? This did make me laugh. It can't be unequal, though certain rules need to be set in place prior to the fight. I don't want to have a black eye. I work in real estate and that just wouldn't go down well. He doesn't want to be kneed in the balls and I kind of understand why! It is very full on just as mistoferin described it. The man does not hold back and when you have a deranged female going at you with talons, teeth and punches, you would understand that you either defend yourself or fight back. JavamanTN I agree with you about keeping fit. Interestingly we both do extreme sports and more interestingly we have both talked about those extreme sports and agreed that neither of us have ever feared or even contemplated death....perhaps we have a link here.

BLGirl -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:32:16 AM)
Daddy and I do this to a degree, I have done it full-on in the past; it is fabulous. I don't see that it is necessarily unhealthy, seeing so many do it, but I can see it getting out of hand pretty quickly if not careful.

JustDarkness -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:39:08 AM)
HWat is the definition of "full on fight" doesn't sound so "real"to me..lol..more like fun. NO matter how hbard the fight goes..males are mostly holding back when fighting females.

allthatjaz -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:51:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness HWat is the definition of "full on fight" doesn't sound so "real"to me..lol..more like fun. NO matter how hbard the fight goes..males are mostly holding back when fighting females. Yes well maybe but I get to keep my boots on! So how did I come out ? serious carpet burns, bruises to die for, missing clumps of hair, split lip. How did he come out? punch marks, bruised, missing hair, bite marks, seriously scratched and a possible broken bone in his hand!! update on that one later. Reality? he can pick me up and throw me around like a rag doll if he wants to so I would guess that its more a case of defending himself.............................. goes off to sulk [:(]

JustDarkness -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:53:11 AM)
Mmmm I find it interesting. For me a full fight was always a full fight. I would not be able to hold back. Guess it is not for me :( (sounds so exciting though)

mistoferin -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:56:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: allthatjaz I agree with you about keeping fit. Interestingly we both do extreme sports and more interestingly we have both talked about those extreme sports and agreed that neither of us have ever feared or even contemplated death....perhaps we have a link here. I'm a really active person but I must admit that I don't actually train anymore. But I think that you have a point. I believe that having participated in competitive sports helps with the mindset for this sort of play and may also define some boundaries without actually mapping them out. I am a former fighter, my ex Master was a hockey player. Sir is ex military and well trained in h2h. So possibly those things are what makes the difference between coming out of it having had a great time....or coming out of it mad or scared of each other. You have to be well matched. Yesterday, Sir and I were joking around about something and he issued a "be careful there missy or I'll kick yer butt warning". I asked what that would prove....that he could kick the butt of a girl??? He just laughed and said that I ain't no regular kinda girl...I'm "dude" strong...lol. Not sure how I should take that. As a side note...I don't ever expect a partner to restrain themselves.

JustDarkness -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 11:58:26 AM)
btw are these fights more like wrestling kinda thingies..or do you kick and punch?

mistoferin -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 12:00:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness Mmmm I find it interesting. For me a full fight was always a full fight. I would not be able to hold back. Guess it is not for me :( (sounds so exciting though) Well, it's not the same as if you were fighting someone because you hate them and want to damage them as much as you possibly can. But it is as "full on" as it would be in a competitive fight. At least that has been my experience. I have both suffered and inflicted some real injuries beyond scratches and bruises...up to and including fractures.

mistoferin -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 12:01:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JustDarkness btw are these fights more like wrestling kinda thingies..or do you kick and punch? We definitely kick and punch.

IronBear -> RE: Fighting? (11/6/2008 12:01:47 PM)
Given the right circumstances and people, I am in favour of this type of mating ritual. It is primal and certainly is part of our instictive make uo dating back to earliet civilizations. I have been involved in a similar senario which was part of the "takoing" of a girl after paying her family bride money in Haiti. If the girl killed the man she won all his property but if he fought her to submission she was his to own. It actually suits my personality to take things to a primal level where one has to earn their place or property and fight to keep it too. The inly issue I have if for those trained in lethal combat, they need to adjust their mindset so that they don't slide into auto piolet and deviver a mainming or killing blow. Now that would negate the purpose of the game wouldn't it?

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