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E2Sweet -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 12:31:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: undertable
...they are allowing me to place my burdens at their front door, and take a break in their world for a few hours. Their world (that may be flawed in its own right) is a different world than the one I am forced to conform to 24/7. It's not about escaping. It is about rejuvenating....


This is something I've been trying to put into words for quite some time. Though for me I think I'd swap with word "forced" with "expected"...

I find it odd some here are having trouble finding someone on the s-side who thinks like this... Perhaps its a bit of a 'Not seeing the forest for the trees" issue?






Lockit -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 12:45:59 PM)

Every time I have an email from someone who claims to be a service type submissive... I find that they are more interested in the service I can provide for them and most the time it is sexual right off the bat.  I don't just want someone to come in and work for me and get nothing out of it.  I am not like that, but finding a blend with someone near to you isn't easy.  I don't jump to conclusions privately for the most part.  I know I have at times but most of the time I don't.

I think if there was someone who really wanted to serve in such a way, who didn't focus more on how he looked when he did so and didn't focus on what was going to happen because of it right off the bat and didn't use the help or service to get close and really not mean it... I would see the forrest.  Him I would talk to and get to know. 




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 1:08:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: E2Sweet

I find it odd some here are having trouble finding someone on the s-side who thinks like this... Perhaps its a bit of a 'Not seeing the forest for the trees" issue?


The following is an excerpt from my blog on the other side.  It sums up my observations and thoughts on the trouble with finding an s-type who thinks like this.  It's written from the perspective of searching for a female sub, but it could just as easily be applied to men.
 
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So many of the subs on this site say "I am not a doormat, I won't clean your house."  To this I say...um...yeah.  Yeah, you will if you plan to serve me.  If I have to clean, then dammit, so do you.  It's not like I expect you to scrub floors while I sit on my bum with a pint of Ben and Jerry's.  Though I have to admit the idea of a naked woman (or two!) chained at the ankles and wrists cleaning my house is wicked hot.  But that's not the point. 
 
The point is that so many of the women here seem completely self-absorbed.  When did D/s become all about pleasing the sub?  I was under the impression that the sub was supposed to serve the Domme, not the other way around.  From my POV, the sub should be doing whatever it takes to make the Domme's life easier and happier even if it's as simple as washing the dishes or putting away the laundry.  In return, the Domme loves and cherishes the sub, and works to make sure the sub's physical and emotional needs are met. 
 
I must be going about this the wrong way or something. 




LaTigresse -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 1:36:47 PM)

Exactly.

Or I get, stuff like.......will you tickle me for punishment? Will you torture me with things like......... if I don't do an acceptable job? Or, I can clean it in a (insert whatever their particular fetish wear is) while you watch and tell me what to do.

For most, it seems to be more about what they want to do and get out of it, rather than about me.

Don't get me wrong, I understand that it really isn't allllllllllllllllll about me. But once in awhile, it would be kinda nice.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 1:47:10 PM)

Oh yeah...I know all about *those* types.  I tell them no, I won't punish them.  I'll just dismiss them and find someone else.  And no, I don't want to watch and tell them what to do.  I don't have time for micromanagement.  I don't care what they wear or how they do the job as long as it gets done to my satisfaction.  I'm more interested in getting the necessary things out of the way so we can move on to the fun.  But they don't get to play until the work is done.




LaTigresse -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 1:55:27 PM)

I get a kick out of the guys that are all about serving a lesbian mistress however pleases her.........until I tell them there will be zero play and their hairy ass will be dressed at all times.

They disappear quite quickly.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:00:45 PM)

LOL.  Probably as fast as when I tell them I'm married and there will be no sex between them and me.




E2Sweet -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:15:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Every time I have an email from someone who claims to be a service type submissive... I find that they are more interested in the service I can provide for them and most the time it is sexual right off the bat.


I have no doubts the women here get a lot of that. Sexual stimulation does feel awfully good and pursuing that and that alone is a common trap some people just fall into. [;)]

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I don't just want someone to come in and work for me and get nothing out of it.  I am not like that...


I know what you're saying.... and from the other side of the kneel I can say, for me, I don't particularly want to find myself in a position where I 'do' for a dominant and she then, in return, feels compelled to return the favor by paying me some sort of attention or some sort of affection, all for the sake of  some sort of business arrangement. I'm looking for the dominant who wants to spend time with me, and me making her life easier by 'doing' for her is simply a given within the dynamic. The difference is subtle, I suppose...

Sorry if I went off-topic a bit here...




LaTigresse -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:23:12 PM)

E2, I don't think it is off topic at all really. In fact, it is probably the primary reason I ignore the "I want to clean your house" type of communication.

I WANT to have some sort of relationship with the person. To enjoy their company. Not just have a robot that appears and disappears. Of course I want them to actually do something constructive, but I also want to look forward to them being around for more than just that. If that makes any sense at all......




Lockit -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:27:55 PM)

Me too... a relationship... of some sort is a must.  I love my friends and people in general... even if I don't care for some things and someone close to me, close enough to be in my home... is loved.  I can have it no other way.  Tender care goes both ways... lol... although there may be some not so tender care!




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:38:55 PM)

Add me to the relationship list.  My ideal sub is a Lady's Maid.  I want a companion who wants to do vanilla things together as well as have kinky fun.  It might sound boring, but my idea of a perfect evening is curling up to watch a movie with my sub's head in my lap.  Or using her as my pillow, depending on my mood.




LaTigresse -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:46:15 PM)

I love historical old movies. One of my favourites is Elizabeth and Elizabeth the Golden Age. I just love the relationship she had with her primary......lady in waiting?..... ( I am not sure what the job title was ). The devotion and affection was beautiful.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:46:22 PM)

Exactly, I want a *companion*.  My mate will be a male, but I would like a girl to hang out with and go places with, as well as lace my corsets and sort my mail!  Who wants a faceless cipher doing the vacuuming?  I could hire a cleaning service for that!




Lockit -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:50:50 PM)

I will be hiring a cleaning person... soon...soon!  But... hehe... I still want a guy in waiting sort!  I really need a fix it guy... painter, designer, tool guy... I think I want too much! lol  A guy with a tool belt... might even get to see mine! lol




Jaded2005 -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 2:54:29 PM)

Service isn't a word I use, helping out would be a better term. If I can do something to "help out," free up her time, that is more time that she can spend with me.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 3:02:16 PM)

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I love historical old movies. One of my favourites is Elizabeth and Elizabeth the Golden Age. I just love the relationship she had with her primary......lady in waiting?.....


Yes, that's it exactly!!  Bring me coffee, lay out my clothes, style my hair, then go out with me.  I need a lady in waiting.

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My mate will be a male, but I would like a girl to hang out with and go places with, as well as lace my corsets and sort my mail!  Who wants a faceless cipher doing the vacuuming?  I could hire a cleaning service for that!


No kidding.  I've already got a male partner; now I want a woman.  But I want one that will do windows then let me chain her up and do evil things to her.  Can't get that from Merry Maids.




E2Sweet -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 3:29:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
...I WANT to have some sort of relationship with the person. To enjoy their company. Not just have a robot that appears and disappears. Of course I want them to actually do something constructive, but I also want to look forward to them being around for more than just that. If that makes any sense at all....


I think it makes perfect sense. [:)]




Aszhrae -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 4:16:26 PM)

MsStarlett and other dommes with similar replies to this:

Second verse, same as the first....
All the good ones are TAKEN!

Just like to pint out that girl was a sissy and a pet before she decided that being what girl was, was not how girl felt on the inside and now being pre-op can't wait to become the sub/slave girl was meant to be.
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LaTigresse:
I get a kick out of the guys that are all about serving a lesbian mistress however pleases her.........until I tell them there will be zero play and their hairy ass will be dressed at all times.
They disappear quite quickly.

SylvereApLeanan:
Add me to the relationship list.  My ideal sub is a Lady's Maid.  I want a companion who wants to do vanilla things together as well as have kinky fun.  It might sound boring, but my idea of a perfect evening is curling up to watch a movie with my sub's head in my lap.  Or using her as my pillow, depending on my mood.

Last 18 years as a non-sexual pet to a very happily married mistress and master has certainly made girl realize that se really is not all that important to girl just so long as she can do what she has always been happy doing - serve in whatever capacity that is required of me. It is what mistress wanted and it was what mistress received.
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Lockit:
I will be hiring a cleaning person... soon...soon!  But... hehe... I still want a guy in waiting sort!  I really need a fix it guy... painter, designer, tool guy... I think I want too much! lol  A guy with a tool belt... might even get to see mine! lol

Girl is familiar with security and is skilled with surveillance devices that monitor grounds. Cooking having learned to do so professionally before girl became pet to current mistress, szechuan, greek, english and italian. Since mistress is an accountant: bookkeeping and since master is in construction, the only thing master never did teach girl how to do, was operate an excavator, but building a house from the ground up is what girl knows how to do.
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Girl must have done something correctly and unless something happens that has present domme lose interest having her maid serve her. Girl sees no reason to search for a domme to serve. A domme found me.
Keeping to my beliefs helped, that is what girl believes.
Still here though, always good to get further insight and wisdom from others.





genuineservant -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 5:55:08 PM)

Your words captured exactly what I strive for in my pursuit of the ideal lifestyle: to serve merely for the leasure that I derive from serving and the pleasure that I give the one I serve.  Nothing more and nothing less.  I quit trying to understand the dynamic as it is impossible to understand.  Why would washing the dishes for a Domme satisfy my desire to be a servant and therefore satisfy my libido?  Simply, it is epxected of me by the one I serve and that's good enough for me.  Very few people understand this but, hey, us true servants do exist.  Just give us a chance to prove our genuine desire to serve You..  




SomethingCatchy -> RE: How to feed your Houseboy... (12/10/2008 8:06:26 PM)

I feel like bragging. I found a boy who not only constantly suggests giving me massages, but is Mr. Handy Dandy when it comes to anything that needs fixing or being made, actually suggested he clean my bathroom for me and did a great job, and is an amazing cook. Did I mention the foot rubs? *heaven*




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