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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 4:52:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: petwolf22

windy..i went through the same thing at school (just graduated saturday)...it's not easy to be so concerned with appearance when finals hit. frankly i'd always sacrifice looks for sleep unless i knew it was especially important (like a job interview or internship).


EXACTLY!! :)

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 4:56:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Well i dont see a reason to stop the discussion like if the OP has done some fault and need to be punished by silence, aster all, we may not like his wiews but his wiews are his and he have a right to keep them, all we can do is try to give him the advice to give him a more chnce of finding a woman. Sure if he find the woman he wants that is grate, after all there are women like willing that is grate whit their looks, and that put alot of care into it, and there is nothing wrong whit that, the problem is thare is not so many of that type in this day and age and finding exactly what one wants, may be a bit hard. i may think Foxer`s wiews are shovenistic and unrealistic, but lets not flame the man shall we he has the right to an opinion.

When i first got into BDSM and before that, i did not give a rats ass aboute my apperance, as long as my clothes was clean and my hair and body clean i did not care. it was first when i begun to get interested in BDSM and especialy the fact that my Master wants to lend me out that got me into getting pretty, well actualy the Gor books got be started. But i seldom use more than 15 minutes on the bathroom in the morning, a quik wash, some bodylotion, clean clothes that fit together, hair brushed and done in a simple way, perhaps a bit of powder on my nose to hide that it ofen shines and teeth brushed, ready, and i try to set a day in the week where i have and houer and a half or somthing to just paper myself, but what pepole are doing on the bathroom for two houers very morning, now that is totaly past me.


/sigh

You are right Nephandi. We should not flame him for his views, no matter if they differ from ours. All of us take pride in our appearance; just because SOME of us perfer to wear jeans and t-shirts does not mean we don't. I work in a public office; I have no choice but to dress the part...but when I come home, the first thing I do is become comfortable. Jeans and a tshirt. To go shopping...jeans and a tshirt...to go out to dinner...jeans and a tshirt. I am laid back and easy going, and my clothing choices reflect that. It does not mean that I care any less about my appearance, only that I care not what others think about it.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 4:57:45 PM   
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willing,

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Hmmmm, I believe we are getting just a wee bit fickle here...


Just a wee bit.

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Everyone preaches open, honesty and directness....that works until you want to kinda make everything look pretty at first, then "weed out" later.


I do this because some women seem annoyed to find out later. Its best to put it all up front and to not try the MANIPULATION routine. Grown-ups don't play those games.

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Hmmm...love the advice.(sarcastically said)....any more "later on" manevuers?


Child stuff. Aslo demonstrates a lack of self confidence. And it teaches bad habits.

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I personally love a general direct profile...doesnt waste my time nor theirs and if there is any leeway in the door...open it up!


Precisely.

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WOW.....KISS....(Keep It So Simple!)


Not yet learned by many here.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:07:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

My first contact with anyone is to simply say, Hello, I found you ad and find you very attractive, etc, and I think we might be a good match, etc, see my profile and I'll be looking forward to hearing from you.


Granted, I am not a submissive lady, but I am in my mid-to late 40s (the ranges requested), and I wouldn't respond to this type of first contact, let alone to a man so much older than myself. That type of e-mail may appear to be polite enough, but it offers nothing more than a simple hello.

If you sincerely want to get anyone's attention, you need to say more....and not "demand" that they just read your profile to learn about you.

You tell them to read your profile....tell them to contact you...but you don't offer them any reason to, other than you find them attractive, and that YOU think you're a good match. Just not enough. A sub lady need not follow your demands from the get go, and you're really contacting the "lady"...not the "sub" yet, IMO.

Because you're a dominant, and she's a submissive, does not make a good match. Close proximity to one another does not require attention either.

Try detailing your response to the lady you're attracted to. Talk about something that grabs your attention within her profile, other than just her looks. Touch on her interests, as well as you own.

You don't have to write a novel to show that you might have a personality, and personal interest in her...and not in her, just as an object (Yes, I saw that mentioned in post, and almost spit when the OP said "of course women are objects"...but chose to laugh instead ).

I'm answering sincerely in my response, but will refrain from some things I truly wanted to say in response to some posts that I've read, as it won't be really constructive, and my mood is too good to mess up now.

K

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:08:13 PM   
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Folks, please try to tone down the personal comments and interact like adults here.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:36:42 PM   
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IrishMist well i am one of those that think jeans and t shirs look good, one dont need to wear dresses and frilly skirts and high heals to dress nice, jeans, a fitting t shirt and perhaps some nice eaings and you look good if you are the type that suit jeans.

some pepole suit goth, some suit the preppy lady style, some suiut laid back jans and t shirt, some suit new age and gypsy glook, some suit retro and even rennisanse whjile somone might suit the slutty whore look, some lucky few suit anything and can pick and deside what to wear then and then.

i always think it is more important pepole fit the clothes they wear than that it is matching this or that style, and part of fitting, is being comfortable.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:47:28 PM   
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LOL! No, PJs are not permitted. Maybe a nightgown but no clothing in the home,




Um nightgowns ARE clothing.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:53:06 PM   
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quote:

Um nightgowns ARE clothing.


I did say maybe...

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:53:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion



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LOL! No, PJs are not permitted. Maybe a nightgown but no clothing in the home,




Um nightgowns ARE clothing.


LMFAO Feline

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 5:58:36 PM   
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Well reading this thread is 15 minutes of my life i'm never going to see again.

What a waste of time.

Foxer, you smack to me of a guy that is so egotistical you cant understand that not everyone wants to hurl themselves at your feet.

You've gotten your little rant over and thrown yer toys out of your pram, everyones looked at your profile.. blah blah.

Its men like you that give the nice ones a bad name !!

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:10:55 PM   
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quote:

Granted, I am not a submissive lady, but I am in my mid-to late 40s (the ranges requested), and I wouldn't respond to this type of first contact, let alone to a man so much older than myself. That type of e-mail may appear to be polite enough, but it offers nothing more than a simple hello.


I may be unclear here...but isnt the purpose of an initial email to say hello?

Perhaps I want in your drawers would be more appropriate..LOL

My Master's first words to me were, "I think we should explore each other's interest"...

If I would have NOT responded to that email because he didnt say anything but hello....I would have let the flesh and breath walk away from my wants, desires and needs...

Respectfully,
BTs willing



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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:15:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nephandi

IrishMist well i am one of those that think jeans and t shirs look good, one dont need to wear dresses and frilly skirts and high heals to dress nice, jeans, a fitting t shirt and perhaps some nice eaings and you look good if you are the type that suit jeans.

some pepole suit goth, some suit the preppy lady style, some suiut laid back jans and t shirt, some suit new age and gypsy glook, some suit retro and even rennisanse whjile somone might suit the slutty whore look, some lucky few suit anything and can pick and deside what to wear then and then.

i always think it is more important pepole fit the clothes they wear than that it is matching this or that style, and part of fitting, is being comfortable.


Nephandi, I was not actually replying to your comment about clothing...but rather to your statement that Mr Foxie deserved the right to state his preferences and opinions :)

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:24:00 PM   
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I may be unclear here...but isnt the purpose of an initial email to say hello?


willing,

Could it be...?

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:24:26 PM   
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I read your profile.
What I got from it...you have an awesome life, and I'd have to wear a skirt constantly. You want me to share all of *your* measures. Perhaps I have a few of my own. Oh, and I like to wear jeans.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:25:17 PM   
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Here, here! I say we do the same with the women who come here looking for validation and stroking, too.

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ORIGINAL: candystripper
Foxer has gotten more attention on this thread than he ever got sending out email. i say we stop rewarding men who come to the boards and crab about us.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:28:14 PM   
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That type of e-mail may appear to be polite enough, but it offers nothing more than a simple hello.



Master teaches me to keep things simple and to keep an open mind and certainly dont judge...but for the life of me, I am sitting here shaking my head. I can not find the rational in this statement....

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:28:54 PM   
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oh oops sorry.

i to usualy start a mail whit hallo, this would be one of my typical ones.

Hallo
my name is anja and i am a submissive girl from Norway. i have a Master but i see you are looking for a playpartner (frind or whatever he is looking for.) we seam to have some intrests in common. Perhaps you would like to exhange some mails whit me. i hope my mail do not ofend you, if it do, i am sorry. Have a continued good day.

anja

What more is realy eeded for a first contact, i dont feel like writing page up and page down aboute myself just to say hallo would you like to chat, that information will be discoverd eventualy if the person is interested.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:33:10 PM   
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and I'd have to wear a skirt constantly. You want me to share all of *your* measures. Perhaps I have a few of my own. Oh, and I like to wear jeans.


One very valuable lesson I learned....D/s may appear to be one sided, but when you truly get the meaning....it's not that way at all...

The rewards coming back are ten fold.

(side note) said with a big smile....I joyfully wear skirts and totally accessible to my Master at all times...Now ask me what the rewards are?

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:33:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willing2serve

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That type of e-mail may appear to be polite enough, but it offers nothing more than a simple hello.



Master teaches me to keep things simple and to keep an open mind and certainly dont judge...but for the life of me, I am sitting here shaking my head. I can not find the rational in this statement....

BTs willing




Some dominants, whether they be male of female, ask, quite plainly in their profiles that when a submissive or slave contact them, they do so with a revealing letter as to not only what their interests are, but also why they feel they would be a good match. So, when they get an email that says nothing more than 'hello', it is basically tossed aside.

I think, lol. Right FT?

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 6:34:36 PM   
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quote:

I read your profile.
What I got from it...you have an awesome life, and I'd have to wear a skirt constantly. You want me to share all of *your* measures. Perhaps I have a few of my own. Oh, and I like to wear jeans.


Katy,

It was awesome but a bit boring these days, the only way they'll let me go to Iraq is as a contractor meaning I couldn't carry a sidearm.

I would want you to share all of my measures you would wish to share but I'm sure knowing how to change a turbocharger or spit shine a pair of shoes would not be on your agenda. You might, however, like giving absolute sexual obedience.

Sorry about the jeans but NO slacks.

Foxer

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