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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:22:04 PM   
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willing,

Thanks again. And yes, there are so many women who think that just because they're women they're in demand. Not!

If you don't have any vanity or pride you'll be a slob by the time you're 50. Your teeth will look like hell, you'll look like a beached whale, and that's when the brown slacks and orthopedic shoes come in. A younger woman recently said to me her mother told her if she didn't present herself to others everyday in the best light she could she was disrespecting other people. Right on! Damn good on her mother and damn good on her! That girl's going to have a good life.

Foxer[/size]


As a professional, educated, creative, attractive woman who is pushing 50, I think I can talk for many women that work out in the world. I'm sorry that I don't have many women that stay home full time, but I doubt that they just let themselves become as distasteful as you describe. In large, I find professional woman take care of themselves. We care about our health, watch our weight and exercise. I don't meet many women who are "slobs by the time you're 50".

The Man to whom I belong has never been disappointed by my appearance or demeanor. I dress to fit my personality which includes dresses and skirts most of the time. There are other types of dress that I do for Him but they are a joy to do. I love high heels even though I'm 5'10" in bare feet.

I find your painting of women at 50 highly demeaning, and, even though you look at conceit as a virtue, I find it to be a pathological condition that most narcissists share. My guess is that you are enjoying all the attention you are getting on this thread. It is feeding your need.

What a waste!

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:25:32 PM   
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The Man to whom I belong has never been disappointed by my appearance or demeanor. I dress to fit my personality which includes dresses and skirts most of the time. There are other types of dress that I do for Him but they are a joy to do. I love high heels even though I'm 5'10" in bare feet.


Very well said, and i believe this attitude is impressive whether you are 27 or 57.

Respectfully,
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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:29:22 PM   
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The professionals who started the group have been displaced by gays, lesbians, funkers, punkers, Goreans, and just about imaginable minority possible. There are few candidates since even the originals no longer hang-out there.


Oh, it's so terrible when those minorities move in. Sorta makes one long for the Old Guard days when experts were so respected.

Oh, that's right, the Old Guard was gay.

Sorta just spoils the image.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:32:23 PM   
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I don't meet many women who are "slobs by the time you're 50".


Sunshine,

I see them everyday and stay away from them. And apparently willing2serve sees them also since she defined the syndrome.

Foxer

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:32:59 PM   
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Around here we call it the submissive network, and it works extremely quickly.


Call me a rebel, call me what you will, call me old fashion or over the hill....

But i never listened to the advice of other submissives UNLESS it was safety issues and then I perhaps put caution to their words.

But why would you listen to negative comments from another submissive, because undoubtedly the interaction didnt work well with them, doesnt mean the same would be true with you.


A lot depends on what is being said. If it's just "he was bad" then salt as needed since one's "bad" can be another's "hot." However, when specific incidents are cited it allows the listener to evaluate if it's just a mismatch of scenes or the person being commented upon is worthy of being avoided.



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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:37:43 PM   
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quote:

Oh, it's so terrible when those minorities move in


John,

You have the political correctness flu. Just for your enlightenment, its a bit difficult to find hetero women amongst a crowd of gays and lesbians.

Foxer



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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:38:53 PM   
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Every once in a while I wonder if folks start threads because they have a secret kink for humiliating themselves.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:39:53 PM   
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quote:

A lot depends on what is being said. If it's just "he was bad" then salt as needed since one's "bad" can be another's "hot." However, when specific incidents are cited it allows the listener to evaluate if it's just a mismatch of scenes or the person being commented upon is worthy of being avoided.


Respectfully, I do understand what you are saying...but I generally have to find out for myself...hard headed or open minded?

Im one of those them there women (smile) and some can be down right catty and manipulative in their speech and thoughts...smile...ya think?

But again, the community and submissive networks are great safety factors but as a judge of a Domly Dom that, that's an iffy perception.

Again you are 100% correct when it goes to what is being said.

Even Foxer deserves to be given a chance (big smile)

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 7:56:26 PM   
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Every once in a while I wonder if folks start threads because they have a secret kink for humiliating themselves.


/shrug
Could be...but then, obviously I am not smart enough to know anything ( very heavily laced with sarcasm )....I wonder if I could use that argument at work...hmmmmmm things that make you HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 8:52:31 PM   
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quote:

Oh, it's so terrible when those minorities move in


John,

You have the political correctness flu. Just for your enlightenment, its a bit difficult to find hetero women amongst a crowd of gays and lesbians.
Foxer[/size]


For the past 20 some years, I've been a member of several pansexual organizations and I haven't had any problems finding heterosexual women despite gays and lesbians making up a significant proportion of their membership. In fact, I met Lolita at a GMSMA class in New York. GMSMA stands for Gay Male S/M Activists.

I think I've been inocculated against that particular flu.

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 8:57:21 PM   
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quote:

A lot depends on what is being said. If it's just "he was bad" then salt as needed since one's "bad" can be another's "hot." However, when specific incidents are cited it allows the listener to evaluate if it's just a mismatch of scenes or the person being commented upon is worthy of being avoided.


Respectfully, I do understand what you are saying...but I generally have to find out for myself...hard headed or open minded?

Im one of those them there women (smile) and some can be down right catty and manipulative in their speech and thoughts...smile...ya think?

But again, the community and submissive networks are great safety factors but as a judge of a Domly Dom that, that's an iffy perception.

Again you are 100% correct when it goes to what is being said.

Even Foxer deserves to be given a chance (big smile)


There is an old saying "A fool doesn't learn from his mistakes; a smart person learns from his mistakes; a wise person learns from others mistakes." I learned from driving in Boston that when I see the car ahead of me hit a pot hole, I try to drive around it. Saves on the hubcaps.

[bigger smile] Yup, but how deep a pothole does he have to dig with his own words?

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 9:37:39 PM   
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For the past 20 some years, I've been a member of several pansexual organizations and I haven't had any problems finding heterosexual women despite gays and lesbians making up a significant proportion of their membership. In fact, I met Lolita at a GMSMA class in New York. GMSMA stands for Gay Male S/M Activists.


John,

In 20 years of hanging around the BDSM underground from Los Angeles to DC, via DFW and Atlanta, the only thing I've found about gays and lesbians is their increasingly being in the way. I don't have an issue with their thing but I do have an issue when they begin to impact the hetero activities - and they do. I also remember being in DFW for a while in the '90s and linking up with a PEP group. Entree to the group required a meeting at a lunch at some local resturant to get the group briefing from the PEP Domme. It was a sales pitch and I just played it along. The two group party functions I attended thereafter were flush with cross-dressing guys and transvestites to the point there were but a few hetero women. The place was so full of stink and stench from trash perfumes it could have been legitimately declared an EPA disaster area. Never wasted my time on it after that. I know heteros in the community here who are really angry about how the scene has changed. I can't say I'm angry about it but it does annoy me that I make arrangements to attend a function and, once there, find it populated with a mere handful of hetero women and most of them need a workout - after they get rid of the black make-up.

All in all I'm not much for the group thing although I've put in plenty of volunteer time. I prefer a private relationship and a few close friends to public activities. I would expect any potential partner to have the same feelings about the matter.

Foxer


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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:07:02 PM   
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who think that just because they're women they're in demand. Not!


Well obviously we're in more demand than 60 year old men with the amounts of email women get vs's men get.

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If you don't have any vanity or pride you'll be a slob by the time



I'm not vain I have pride and I'm not a slob, of course I'm not old either, but not being vain won't change with age. I care more about how I treat people and do I treat people kindly than if my shoes match my hair and if my hair matches my skirt.


You're showing your true colors coming on a board and calling women with no vanity beached whales and slobs once they age Your friends mother was full of shit


It's not doing any one but maybe ourself a disservice if we don';t look our best./

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:16:01 PM   
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I sometimes make a quick trip out with out a bra, now is that slovenly or sexy?


Depends on who you ask. My mom would say that was slovenly and all the men I know would say it was hot to think about.

ME I was just plain comfortable either way lol


It's all about who you ask, And if you give a rats ass or not lol.


I personally think it looks rather stuffy on me to wear matching slacks matching pumps and cordinating tops. I never wanna dress or feel stuffy. I have pretty dresses I wear and stuff but it'd drive me nuts if I was someone who's purse had to match the shoes, the shoes had to match the top the top had to match the bottoms the bottoms had to match the earings.



It's not worth it to me to wake up at 4 am to make sure everything matches. It's clean it's pretty put it on lol


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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:16:22 PM   
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Quote"Well where you get yours living across town, I get mine living on other contenants. I live in North Carolina, and I get alot of UK, Australia, Canada e-mails. And some think I can just hope in the car and be there in no time."

Hello truesub4 just get in your car and be here at 8am tomorrow and take the first right at the last set of traffic lights on the street then a left and right in London (or is that a right then a left) never mind just be here at 8

Now to what the thread is all about and in it we see that at one time foxer55 you state that you contact those women quote ("If they say a guy to 55 or 58 I will reply to that because it might be worth pushing the issue some") unquote we ask why do you fell you have the right to push the issue.
They have stated what they seek as you have and so you have decided that you have every right to go against their wishes but they have no rights to go against yours by not answering you as others haven't who in some way may have indeed looked at your profile and no matter what you have said to them have decided not to reply in any way which means that they have found something they were not happy with so feel they best not let you think that a reply is an invitation to try and change their thinking or their desires which would then lead to having to block you.
We read all that has been put here and it seems you just feel it is your right once again to degrade or try and humiliate those who are not fitting into your way of thinking and who disagree with you on any thing at all.
Our theory on your expertise is the that X is an unknown Quantity and Spurt is a Little Drip Under Pressure
Now we have given you new faces to have a go at and allow the others to have a rest.


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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:40:48 PM   
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Hello truesub4 just get in your car and be here at 8am tomorrow and take the first right at the last set of traffic lights on the street then a left and right in London (or is that a right then a left) never mind just be here at 8




LOL... yeah, on my way...

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 10:51:14 PM   
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Um nightgowns ARE clothing.


I did say maybe...


no you said no clothing will be worn in the house, and nighties are clothing Wheather she maybe wearing one or may not it's still clothing


Happy perv

Every once in a while I wonder if folks start threads because they have a secret kink for humiliating themselves.


Well it might just be possible hehe

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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:14:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

In 20 years of hanging around the BDSM underground from Los Angeles to DC, via DFW and Atlanta, the only thing I've found about gays and lesbians is their increasingly being in the way. I don't have an issue with their thing but I do have an issue when they begin to impact the hetero activities - and they do. I also remember being in DFW for a while in the '90s and linking up with a PEP group. Entree to the group required a meeting at a lunch at some local resturant to get the group briefing from the PEP Domme. It was a sales pitch and I just played it along. The two group party functions I attended thereafter were flush with cross-dressing guys and transvestites to the point there were but a few hetero women. The place was so full of stink and stench from trash perfumes it could have been legitimately declared an EPA disaster area. Never wasted my time on it after that. I know heteros in the community here who are really angry about how the scene has changed. I can't say I'm angry about it but it does annoy me that I make arrangements to attend a function and, once there, find it populated with a mere handful of hetero women and most of them need a workout - after they get rid of the black make-up.

All in all I'm not much for the group thing although I've put in plenty of volunteer time. I prefer a private relationship and a few close friends to public activities. I would expect any potential partner to have the same feelings about the matter.

Foxer [/size]



If I ever hear another person say that all women like to do is sit around and argue, I think i'll slap them down. You argue more than any woman I have ever met. Opinions and Advice are like assholes, everyones got one. But damn!

I've not taken the time to read your profile. No need to. It's been described enough through out this thread. I have never read a thread on the entire Collarme forum that has made me cuss at my PC like this one has. (Oh another thing not lady like I'm sure on your high profile of dislikes in women).

You have your preferance in woman. That's just great. You prefer an age group, that's just great. You want her healthy, great! Who doesn't want to be "Healthy" ? You want to tell the world you're and expert, and they're all beneath you. Great! Do that.

But for Christ sakes, get off your egotisic high horse and come back down to earth! You may be and expert in all the things on the intrest thread of a profile, but you are seriously lacking the ablity to admit when you do something wrong. You lack the ablity to communicate with people in general. If we're not up to your standards and think they way you do. We're all in the wrong? You even talked so much bullshit that the few who supported you on this thread started backing up.

I'll have you know, not all women who who certain age brackets let themselves go. I'll also remind you SIR, that men are worse at this. My former Master was 42 when we met, and was no way looking older than late 20's early 30's. Where as other men at the age of 42 look as if they got 1 foot in the grave and looking every bit of 82. Or Older! So to even remotely blame age on how ones looks is just STUPID!

Oh and I agree, a night gown is clothing!

You came on this site, asking a simple question. And it truely was just a simple question. But what you did, no one else. You wanted to see just how offensive you could be towards women and get by with it. Well hell it worked. You insulted, a few and got others attention too, to carry this thread on as it has been going on all day. I have never seen a thread with this many hits in a 12 hour span on here. (Sure there have been others, but none I've seen thus far)

A few on here have pointed out they know you from other sites causing the same type of ruckus. And don't think that some on here won't remember this thread, and think twice when responding.

So while you sit there at your PC wearling your comfy sweats telling us we all dress like shit when we want to be comfy. And eating your ice cream that you'll be burning the calories from tomorrow as you think of something new to start on another site. Have your laugh. But remember.......... because others will too.





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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:16:59 PM   
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I care more about how I treat people and do I treat people kindly than if my shoes match my hair and if my hair matches my skirt.


Is there some kind of vain law that you cant have it ALL? If your clothes match, does that mean you are rude to people?

Hmmmm, must tell my clients, cant be kind to you today cause i feel like decking out in my best suit.....



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RE: What Is It With Women...? - 12/18/2005 11:38:41 PM   
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to me age does matters. balance how do you define balance in someone at were they are in life. and how do they maitain things in their life such as education famiily living and more
at early ages people are discovering them selves in ways that most of us have been through for example cause and effect if your not able to provide for your sub in ways that he or she needs i am not talking in the mind stimulating fashion cause thats a lie forsure. its more about building bonds that last long term in which case you have to have commonaites and intrest not this artsy fartsy way of thinking.
be a freaking peron Frist not some chat hounds way or someones off the wall book that someone wrote about bdsm saying you have do this or that
i am talking being plain ole you be that person where in you put your pants on one leg at a time who love to laugh play and work and share not that hard really just to much muck in the mix makes for quick sand if you catch my drift

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