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bestbabync -> my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:33:39 PM)

i so hope that President Obama succeeds in making this country the best that it can be. 

the US was once the best in the world at everything and being that again would be nice.  we were not number one by accident.  it happened because every single citizen worked hard and took pride in their own successes which in turn made our country great.   

if only President Obama will use his gift to inspire everyone to work hard, to conserve, to penny pinch, to knuckle down, roll up their sleeves and not pull our country down by running to the trothe everytime we experience a financial set back.  social programs should be reserved for the weak, the sick and the children.  wall street should bite the damn bullet, cut the unnecessary wasteful spending and tighten their damn belts like us working class will be doing.  it will take all of us, not just wall street and not just main street. 

the tax and spend policies must end and now!  if our taxes must go up to pay our debt and to keep our country safe so be it.  but i beg President Obama to get rid of the deficits and balance the budget.  if this is not accomplished, i am so afraid our nation will be destroyed from within.  our suffering may be giving up our cell phones, gas guzzling vehicles, vacations, other play toys etc.  but we all have to be willing to sacrafice. 

we are in a recession.  why keep sucking from the government money it doesn't have???





philosophy -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:36:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

the US was once the best in the world at everything


...er......when?




thornhappy -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:45:06 PM)

Probably means post-WWII, when other economies were rebuilding.




bestbabync -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:45:17 PM)

[sm=applause.gif]this is my opinion!!
thank you for ruining my optimism




bestbabync -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:46:54 PM)

exactly
what country assisted in rebuilding Europe post WW2?




kittinSol -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:50:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync
the US was once the best in the world at everything and being that again would be nice.  we were not number one by accident. 


It's so funny. Every country I've lived in cultivates the same belief about itself that it is the best, most beautiful, developed, perfect country on the planet. When you ask the people who make these grandiose claims what they are referring to, however, you are usually met with a blank stare and a mumble. So keep up the touristic slogans, baby: it won't give you a career in PR, but I just know it makes you feel so much better [8D] .




philosophy -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:51:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

[sm=applause.gif]this is my opinion!!
thank you for ruining my optimism


....what you call optimism i call, jingoistic claptrap........




cpK69 -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:54:42 PM)

[sm=banghead.gif].... ahhhhh...
 
Kim




hlen5 -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 2:58:44 PM)

bestbabync,

I don't want to ruin your optimism, but there will always be a few slackers among us. Remember in elementary school being told that the Pilgrims put signs up saying "If you don't work, you don't eat"?

I agree with your hopes. It would be great if everyone took responibility for their own success.  Here's hoping the optimism this election seems to have brought stays with us and inspires everyone to do what they can, both for themselves and for others!

Enough with the cynicism and ripping other people up!!!!




slvemike4u -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 3:05:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

i so hope that President Obama succeeds in making this country the best that it can be. 

the US was once the best in the world at everything and being that again would be nice.  we were not number one by accident.  it happened because every single citizen worked hard and took pride in their own successes which in turn made our country great.   

if only President Obama will use his gift to inspire everyone to work hard, to conserve, to penny pinch, to knuckle down, roll up their sleeves and not pull our country down by running to the trothe everytime we experience a financial set back.  social programs should be reserved for the weak, the sick and the children.  wall street should bite the damn bullet, cut the unnecessary wasteful spending and tighten their damn belts like us working class will be doing.  it will take all of us, not just wall street and not just main street. 

the tax and spend policies must end and now!  if our taxes must go up to pay our debt and to keep our country safe so be it.  but i beg President Obama to get rid of the deficits and balance the budget.  if this is not accomplished, i am so afraid our nation will be destroyed from within.  our suffering may be giving up our cell phones, gas guzzling vehicles, vacations, other play toys etc.  but we all have to be willing to sacrafice. 

we are in a recession.  why keep sucking from the government money it doesn't have???


I'm confused what tax and spend policies are you speaking of.Certainly not anything that has take place over the last 8 years,what we had from the Bush administration was a cut-tax's and spend policy.Quite frankly it was government for the rich by the rich....so before you decry those looking to the publc trough,lets first redress the inequities of the Bush administration.
Suprising post from you bestbaby,after weeks of listening to you decry the prospects of an Obama Presidency,you now speak of his "gift" and plead him to use it in a responsible way.Have no fear though as Presient Elect said on election night he hears you too....I'm not sue though ,given your priorities and the repulsion you seem to feel for social government programs you are going to like the answer.One way or another he will tick you off,compassionate government does seem to strike conservative leaning people like yourself the wrong way.




bestbabync -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:47:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync
the US was once the best in the world at everything and being that again would be nice.  we were not number one by accident. 


It's so funny. Every country I've lived in cultivates the same belief about itself that it is the best, most beautiful, developed, perfect country on the planet. When you ask the people who make these grandiose claims what they are referring to, however, you are usually met with a blank stare and a mumble. So keep up the touristic slogans, baby: it won't give you a career in PR, but I just know it makes you feel so much better [8D] .


kitt
you obviously have alot to learn!  if you find this country so repulsive, please do not let the door hit you where the good Lord split you! 
i was born here and this is my home.  i see not one damn thing wrong with loving my country.  i am not the only US citizen that feels this way. 
if this place you now call home is so bad, find a better place to land young lady. 
i love my country.  i am happy.  i have so much more than most in this world.  there are many dieing of disease, war and starvation.  we are so fortunate to have a peaceful land! 
[:D] 




bestbabync -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:50:32 PM)

[:)]
quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

[sm=applause.gif]this is my opinion!!
thank you for ruining my optimism


....what you call optimism i call, jingoistic claptrap........


i have my opinion and you have yours.  that is our right in this country.  i can speak my mind and you can speak yours.




GreedyTop -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:54:06 PM)

baby. I didnt see KS slamming the US.. but she was pointing out that the residents of the countries she's lived in have all felt the same way Americans feel about America ... "WE ARE THE BEST COUNTRY EVER!!!"

Brits, French, etc.. for the most part (just like here) feel that their country is the best ever and can't imagine why anyone would possibly want to live anywhere else.

Just sayin'




NorthernGent -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:55:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: philosophy

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

the US was once the best in the world at everything


...er......when?



Beauty is in the eye of the beholder eh.

Millions of people sat in a collective chair and rocking forwards and backwards: "best in the world, number one; best in the world, number one; best in the world, number one". Perhaps they're sucking a collective thumb.

Legends in their own minds.




GreedyTop -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:58:03 PM)

*snort* NG.. how come I can visualize an editorial cartoon featuring (Uncle Sam, Queen, etc ) in a rocking chair with a speech balloon saying that?? 




NorthernGent -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/7/2008 11:58:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's so funny. Every country I've lived in cultivates the same belief about itself that it is the best, most beautiful, developed, perfect country on the planet.  



Am I right in thinking you've lived in England, Kittin?

You must know that we are the first to point and laugh at our failings.......it comes with being comfortable in your own skin.




NorthernGent -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/8/2008 12:07:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*snort* NG.. how come I can visualize an editorial cartoon featuring (Uncle Sam, Queen, etc ) in a rocking chair with a speech balloon saying that?? 



Queen?! A more representative figure of national character is this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bull

As a literary figure, John Bull is well-intentioned, frustrated, full of common sense, and entirely of native country stock. Unlike Uncle Sam later, he is not a figure of authority but rather a yeoman who prefers his small beer and domestic peace, possessed of neither patriarchal power nor heroic defiance.




GreedyTop -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/8/2008 12:08:58 AM)

thank you, NG.. I KNEW there was someone I would have been better using as an example, but went totally blank (I blame it on the beer and being sleepy...LOL)




bestbabync -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/8/2008 12:14:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: bestbabync

i so hope that President Obama succeeds in making this country the best that it can be. 

the US was once the best in the world at everything and being that again would be nice.  we were not number one by accident.  it happened because every single citizen worked hard and took pride in their own successes which in turn made our country great.   

if only President Obama will use his gift to inspire everyone to work hard, to conserve, to penny pinch, to knuckle down, roll up their sleeves and not pull our country down by running to the trothe everytime we experience a financial set back.  social programs should be reserved for the weak, the sick and the children.  wall street should bite the damn bullet, cut the unnecessary wasteful spending and tighten their damn belts like us working class will be doing.  it will take all of us, not just wall street and not just main street. 

the tax and spend policies must end and now!  if our taxes must go up to pay our debt and to keep our country safe so be it.  but i beg President Obama to get rid of the deficits and balance the budget.  if this is not accomplished, i am so afraid our nation will be destroyed from within.  our suffering may be giving up our cell phones, gas guzzling vehicles, vacations, other play toys etc.  but we all have to be willing to sacrafice. 

we are in a recession.  why keep sucking from the government money it doesn't have???


I'm confused what tax and spend policies are you speaking of.Certainly not anything that has take place over the last 8 years,what we had from the Bush administration was a cut-tax's and spend policy.Quite frankly it was government for the rich by the rich....so before you decry those looking to the publc trough,lets first redress the inequities of the Bush administration.
Suprising post from you bestbaby,after weeks of listening to you decry the prospects of an Obama Presidency,you now speak of his "gift" and plead him to use it in a responsible way.Have no fear though as Presient Elect said on election night he hears you too....I'm not sue though ,given your priorities and the repulsion you seem to feel for social government programs you are going to like the answer.One way or another he will tick you off,compassionate government does seem to strike conservative leaning people like yourself the wrong way.


tell me how in the hell am i supposed to support our new president surrounded by negative people like you?  if i am not mistaken i have expressed my disappointment in the bush administration many times in these forums.  i will not agree with or support the tax & spend policies of any administration.  social programs are necessary, but these programs should not drain an already broken economy.   i think we all agree our economy is on a downward spiral.  so, i was simply saying that i believe we can save our economy and ourselves by working together.  what is wrong with everyone making sacrifices to guarantee our future?  we should not lay down and wait for the damn train to run us over!  
i am capable of admitting that i may have been mistaken.  this past week i watched President Elect Obama speak to millions.  all of those people seemed to look to him for a solution.  so it occurred to me that he has a chance to rescue our nation by inspiring each and every one of us to accept the responsibility of preventing or lessen the blow of this much predicted recession/depression. 
yes it will repluse me to watch this country go broke while wall street and main street are sucking her dry!
   




winterlight -> RE: my hope for President Obama and this country (11/8/2008 1:50:34 AM)

how about those CEO's of companies that leave with major moulah?




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