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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR

When NAFTA was in it's infancy, the one man we could have elected who was against was absolutely right about it....yes....H. Ross Perot said it best...."you hear that sucking sound? That's all the jobs being sucked out of this nation!"

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

I have really mixed feelings on bailing out General Motors.
At this point, I feel the government SHOULD bail out GM.
 
 Newsvine - Meltdown 101: Why automakers might get bailed out

The loss of  2.5 MILLION jobs, in this economy does not make sense to me.
I think that the American auto industry needs to start making very
fuel efficient and inexpensive cars.
I also feel if WE bail out GM, WE should have some "say" in how they operate,
the cars they roll out, and how they "spend" the bailout money.

We are closer to a Depression than many of us realize.
Everybody is getting "bailed out" EXCEPT the American workers!
Bank bailouts, insurance bail outs, housing bail out, Wall street bail outs, now
Car bailouts? The states need bailouts, everyone needs to be bailed out!

How many of us really need fancy cars, with a million features that cost $40,000,
IN THIS ECONOMY?
Why not try to produce {gasp} affordable and reliable AMERICAN made
 cars with a good warranty?  

Maybe this is a chance for CHANGE in how American cars are made?
Maybe we can/could actually start to compete a bit more?

I would like to see the Auto Industries "bailed out" with stipulations that they make
fuel efficient, RELIABLE, well engineered, inexpensive/affordable cars!
Tell me am I dreaming here?
I want to Appointed to a position by President elect Obama, as "Secretary of Creative and Free
Thinking Alternatives".

Okay, I am looking for thoughts and IDEAS on the bailouts.
Especially GM, since they need the money soon.

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou


I mean, for crying out loud just look at the banks, they got gobs of money from the government, and they are still clamping down on credit, they are hoarding like it is going out of style. There has been little trickle down. But here we go again, wanting to save GM for GMs benefit. Fuck GM. Fuck the Banks. Let people survive on their own merits, and pursue their own ambitions without the burden of propping up blind car companies, and banks.

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ORIGINAL: bestbabyn

then i heard that 1/2 of this bailout money to GM will go to fund retirement accounts.....WTF?  union costs and union benefits.....WTF!
this worries the hell out of me!!!   
   

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ORIGINAL: UncleNasty

Rule,

Bailouts that fund business as usual have been business as usual for a long time. I'm suprised to see people surprised by this.

Uncle Nasty

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: bestbabyn

then i heard that 1/2 of this bailout money to GM will go to fund retirement accounts.....WTF?  union costs and union benefits.....WTF!
this worries the hell out of me!!!   
  

So you believe that it is the fault of of the unions?

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ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR

ok...Let's assume GM (which would then be followed by Ford and Chrysler) gets their bailout money. Also assume (correctly) that the government will have no stake in those companies.

The government had then better get off it's ass, stop being a bunch of panty-waisted pussies, and DEMAND some strict measures for their future if they expect to get that money.

1. No bullshit average fleet MPG. ALL cars in the fleet meet the same standards and raise the standards NOW! Let's say a minimum of 25mpg city NOT highway, and all cars to be tested under REAL conditions by an independant public consumer group, not that EPA bullshit.

2. Put at least 25% of the bailout into accelerated development of alternative fuel cars. And ethanol is NOT the way to go!! Hydrogen, CNG, or Electric are best alternatives.

3. Cut ALL top executive wages to the same level of the highest paid laborer until they are solvent again. Eliminate all bonuses too.

4. Produce at least 2 or 3 no frills vehicle models that MOST americans can afford.

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

I might have some canned goods that I could donate.   Lemme look. If so, I will bring it when a bring the couch to a nearby location/dealer.