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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

If I might my own very personal feelings concerning Tuesday night.I am a child of the 60's grew up watching the Civil rights movement,early memories of fire hoses and police dogs.Parents were of the "white flite" generation.Argued with my father concerning his use on the n****r word,complained he was doing harm to my baby sister who adored him(by this time in life my own opinion was my father was an asshole,so his opinions meant less than nothing to me)Fast forward 40 years,father long since dead ,my own son a junior at NYU and an Obama volunteer.Watched the election returns with my almost 70 year old mother,when CNN called it eyes started watering.Watched the crowd at Grant Park,the very much diverse crowd of supporters at Grant Park.Oprah crying on a mans shoulders ,a man we later found out she had never previously met,Jesse Jackson(not a big fan of Jesse,but what the hell he marched with Dr.King)crying his eyes out.And than Obama came out and made his acceptance speech and we were bawling,including my 70 y/o mother she of the white flite generation.And hope once more has come to America.
   Didn't vote for him because he is black(by the way BestBaby,that is his decision,it is called self identifying ,and you nor anyone else has the right to correct or criticize his decision).Voted for the best man for the job...and it was IMO he.But to deny that this is a big thing is to bury ones head in the sand.40 years after Memphis a segment of our nation has to a large degree just realised the promise that starts with "We hold these truths to be self evident".I have allways been proud to be American,I believe we as a nation have a rich and glorious history,but we also have dark and sinister blots on that history,Tuesday night in numbers that spoke volumes ,for whatever reasons each voter used America ,elected a black man to its highest office.For this we can all be proud whether black or white,Republican or Democrat a McCain voter or one who cast his vote for Obama.We all own this now ,he is our President ,we will all have the joy of watching his 2 daughters grow up in the White House.Your country has sent a black man to live in a house built in large part with slave labor.....Be proud of yourselves not because you elected a black man but rather because you elected the best man for the job...and he happened to be black.It is a glorious thing indeed
Sorry for babbling

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

i did not say my poll was scientific.  i polled 30 to 40 friends.  all make less than $100,000. 

according to Obama's campaign his tax plan will be almost identical to Pres. Clinton's.  seems i remember Pres. Clinton campaigning on lowering taxes etc etc.  i voted for him, but once he took office he found that lowering taxes was not an option.  instead he asked us to bite the bullet and work with him to lower the deficit.  the middle class took a huge hit because he found that the middle class is where the money is!  ouch and it hurt!

You need new, more reliable news sources. History books too.

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much in the same way as Tony Blair did when he became the first Scottish PM in the UK.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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much in the same way as Tony Blair did when he became the first Scottish PM in the UK.

Stella, you are over 200 years out. John Stuart, Earl of Bute was a Scot. There have been others too.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And in an earlier post you went to great lengths to point out that he was actually half-white half-black rather than black.It was that point I was referring to....technically you are correct ,but the man identifies as black and that is goo enough for me and should be good enough for you.Hope that clears up any confusion between us ,though I still believe you took some shots at me in anger that I in no way ,based on my post deserved.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

personally, I dont see anything with that tshirt you just cited, baby... assuming the woman voted for him, (and even if she didnt) he IS her (and our) president.  And he does happen to acknowledge the fact that he is not a WASP, whether he calls himself a mutt or black..

ETA:  The polls show that the majority of people polled voted for Obama based on his platform NOT his skin color.
Since a poll, taken around the country in multiple cities using the same questions, can be taken to be a reasonably fair estimate of the overall views, my suggestion is that you broaden your circle of friends and acquaintances.  Seems like a fairly narrow minded bunch you're surrounded by, based on what you keep posting here.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

No problem Bestbaby concerning the shots,as a white man with a black great-grand mother I have developed a thick skin.Perhaps that is why I had no trouble,given the context,of President elect Obama characterizing himself as a "mutt" ,in large parts we are a nation of "mutts" to my mind that is truly the stregnth of our country.

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

personally, I dont see anything with that tshirt you just cited, baby... assuming the woman voted for him, (and even if she didnt) he IS her (and our) president.  And he does happen to acknowledge the fact that he is not a WASP, whether he calls himself a mutt or black..

ETA:  The polls show that the majority of people polled voted for Obama based on his platform NOT his skin color.
Since a poll, taken around the country in multiple cities using the same questions, can be taken to be a reasonably fair estimate of the overall views, my suggestion is that you broaden your circle of friends and acquaintances.  Seems like a fairly narrow minded bunch you're surrounded by, based on what you keep posting here.

i feel the different things i have seen and heard since nov 4th has helped me come to the conclusion that i have. 
i work in a community of 5000 people.  i did not poll them all.  but i polled the ones i know and that i consider my friends.  since you do not know me, you cannot judge me, my community or my friends. 

i asked several questions which included, what do you know about PE Obama's plan for this country.  most could  not answer the question or their answer was vague.  there are many that voted for PE Obama because of his charisma, his race or his ability to speak why deny that fact?.

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i climbed MT.Everest...all on my own, without ever making base camp.  In my bathing suit.

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync


i asked several questions which included, what do you know about PE Obama's plan for this country.  most could  not answer the question or their answer was vague.  there are many that voted for PE Obama because of his charisma, his race or his ability to speak why deny that fact?.

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ORIGINAL: bestbabync

obviously you have no horse in this race.
but oh well i forgot i am always wrong and insignificant in your eyes!  i am a mere dirty spot on your pretty landscape.  how dare i!

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always wrong and insignificant in your eyes!  i am a mere dirty spot on your pretty landscape.