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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/13/2006 5:33:41 PM   
servingwench80


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Truly, I've never really understood this. There are so many men with the rape fantasy, yet it always ends with, but I don't want to etc. You really don't get choices with rape. Ask anyone who has been raped if they had a DOM looking out for them or a safe word. I told a guy once, "you really want to get raped, head to such and such part of town." He quickly told me, "but I don't want to get hurt." You think rape is suppose to feel good? IMO rape is not something to play with under any circumstances. Nothing good can every come from it. Physically, emotionally, or psychologically. Leave it a fantasy.



I can only come up with one comparison for this, but it's one of those things where if you don't get it, I don't think anyone can explain it to you. The difference between rape *play* and real rape seems kind of like the difference between flogging/whipping/beating and abuse. To a vanilla person who doesn't get it, they are never going to understand why someone would want something like that. It just doesn't make sense. It HAS to be abusive and bad. Someone who doesn't understand the attraction of a rape fantasy would probably feel the same way. Of course in a real rape, the victim doesn't get a choice in whether they are harmed or not, any more than a battered wife gets a choice in whether or not she ends up with bruises on her body. But this is play, and fantasy, and that makes all the difference.

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/13/2006 6:17:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		michael,
You currently have another thread on the boards where you state that you have been online for 10 years and can't arrange to get yourself to a munch or meet a Domme in real time....or even find any that want to have an online relationship with you. You also talk of being in a major depression.

First and foremost, I think that anyone who engages in this type of play must do so coming from a mentally healthy perspective. So I think that before you really consider this you should certainly take the steps necessary to get your depression under control.

Secondly, rape play is an extreme form of play. You have admittedly had no real time play experiences. You may want to start off much lower down the scale then with a rape scene....maybe some real time bondage and a spanking or something along those lines.

Third, I would also recommend as others have, that if you should follow through with this, that you do so with someone you highly trust. That means trust in REAL time....not ONLINE.

If this is truly your fantasy though, maybe it will be the thing that will motivate you to find a way to leave your home and get out to some real time events to meet the one you wish to share this with.

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/13/2006 6:24:18 PM   
michaelGA


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Status: offline 		i know that everyone here is right. maybe i need some strong drugs or something. maybe some heavy narcotics or other mind altering drugs to get me out of this funk i am in.

< Message edited by michaelGA -- 1/13/2006 6:25:40 PM >

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/13/2006 7:42:23 PM   
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i know that everyone here is right. maybe i need some strong drugs or something. maybe some heavy narcotics or other mind altering drugs to get me out of this funk i am in.


Try going offline and interacting face to face. Online can be impersonal and therefore depressing

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 1:02:40 AM   
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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 6:16:13 AM   
PlayfulOne


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Status: offline 		I thin efore you get to caught up in how a rape scene would work, maybe you should concentrate more on finding people you can talk and interact with. You have the old cart before the horse. You've mentioned in other post that you are not having much contact or luck finding anyone. You should probably work on that and leave the rape fantasy on the back burner. The only way for it to work is in a situation where you are with someone you can trust.

Having performed as the "rapist" on numerous occasions, I can say it is about power and control, just like a real rape. You have to talk about this before hand and know the wishes and limits of the victim and stay within that. I have to know the person and actually like them to be able to do it., if not it puts me into a space where I start to feel dirty and more actually the rapist. the first time I ever did a rape scene, I needed aftercare .

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 6:35:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

are there any forums regarding rape fantasies for men?

i am leary about pursuing this due to several factors.

1. finding someone trustworthy enough to share this experience with.

2. getting assurances that no men would ever be involved.

3. making sure that not real harm would occur (such as, permenant markings, disfigurement, things such as this)

4. that, when the scene is over that i would not be abandonned while still bound, gagged and/or blindfolded.

anyone have any suggestions to offer here?




quote:

that may be your fantasy, but i don't want any guy involved at all...period...next?




Those lines, along with your other thread, clearly stating that you've never played in real life and don't have the prospect of doing so anytime in the near future leads me to one conclusion...

This thread is all about providing you with wanking material while the rest of us share some of our very intimate details of play.

My advice to you is that you get out and talk with lifestyle people face to face. I know there's no way for you to do so, but somehow you must get to work, to the bank, to the grocery store. And I know that all of the people in your area are "hardasses" but if you can't get out to meet them, how would you know? And I know that you will have at least 10 other objections to my suggestions, as well as the suggestions of others.

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 6:57:41 AM   
michaelGA


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Status: offline 		i assure you that i have no need for "wanking" material anf this site doesn't come close to anything that would "get me off"

if i wanted such material, there are far better places to find them...not to belittle CM in any way, but there's alot more on the web for that. Get real.

i could reinterate the difficulties of getting around town, but nobody could care less about that. granted, i can and sometimes do get around via the bus system, but that only works during the hours the bus runs.

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 8:36:20 AM   
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i could reinterate the difficulties of getting around town, but nobody could care less about that. granted, i can and sometimes do get around via the bus system, but that only works during the hours the bus runs.


Your profile states that you are an expert at Karaoke....I assume this is not something you are doing at home...nor is it something that is generally done during the daytime hours. So how is it that you manage to get out to participate in Karaoke?

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 9:37:07 AM   
michaelGA


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Status: offline 		since moving here to Columbus, i haven't had the pleasure of going to karaokee as i do not desire to walk several miles in each direction in the wee hours of the night. Cabs are too expensive, also.

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 10:18:22 AM   
mistoferin


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since moving here to Columbus, i haven't had the pleasure of going to karaokee as i do not desire to walk several miles in each direction in the wee hours of the night. Cabs are too expensive, also.


Now michael, how is it that I KNEW before you answered that there would be more than one thing stopping you from the activity you desire? Is there ANYTHING that you enjoy doing that you ACTUALLY manage to get to....or is your entire existence lived out within the walls of your home?

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 12:11:15 PM   
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or is your entire existence lived out within the walls of your home?



Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner!!!!

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 12:24:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelGA

i know that everyone here is right. maybe i need some strong drugs or something. maybe some heavy narcotics or other mind altering drugs to get me out of this funk i am in.


You don't need drugs. You don't need some "instant fix" that will get you out of your "funk." You need to get out of yourself and out of your world of doom and gloom that focusses entirely on *you*. You are your own worst enemy right now.

Go volunteer somewhere. You poo-poo'd that idea in the "I'm going to be alone for Christmas" thread saying you don't want to be around homeless people or depressing situations. Take an hour and do some research and find some humanistic volunteerism you can physically involve yourself in. When you call and offer your help, they will find ways away your transportation problem if you are serious. Other volunteers will pick you up.

I'm sure you will come up with all sorts of reasons why this suggestion isn't a good one either; but hopefully other people with experiences with volunteerism will back me up on this. You WILL feel better about yourself once you get out of your own problems and start thinking of other people. However many hours you are spending thinking about how bad your situation is or how you don't have what you want and any other "poor me" moments will be replaced with time where you actually feel good about yourself for doing something that matters. It will improve your attitude and then make you more likable (not only to other people, but to YOU, which is most important). You also will meet some amazing people.

Akasha

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/14/2006 1:23:44 PM   
truesubboy


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Status: offline 		I think as long as you're playing with someone you trust have communicated your concerns then your fantasy can be played out safely. What you're asking for is a very common form of play (one that I happen to love) and I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of people who are interested. Good luck

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RE: Rape Fantasy for men - 1/15/2006 8:00:20 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: fldrkhorse
You think rape is suppose to feel good? IMO rape is not something to play with under any circumstances. Nothing good can every come from it. Physically, emotionally, or psychologically. Leave it a fantasy.

As someone who loves rape scenes, and yes the hurting bruising bleeding sore kind...I'd have to disagree.

It's still nothing close to what actual rape is. I don't want to be actually raped, just like I don't want to be actually bred.

But I can do scenes damn close to it and have a great time with it.

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