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variation30 -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 2:04:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol What was the electoral college score again? Oh yeah, that's right, a huge fucking one. The stomping of feet and whining because you lost isn't doing anything for your dignity [8D] . As for Southern states... I'm happy to see that they're turning towards the Good Side. About time, too. I would have lost if obama or mccain would have won so...I'm not sure what you're getting at. and which side is the good side? I'm confused.

rexrgisformidoni -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 2:13:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol What was the electoral college score again? Oh yeah, that's right, a huge fucking one. The stomping of feet and whining because you lost isn't doing anything for your dignity [8D] . As for Southern states... I'm happy to see that they're turning towards the Good Side. About time, too. I would have lost if obama or mccain would have won so...I'm not sure what you're getting at. and which side is the good side? I'm confused. and what pray tell would you have lost? your lunch? your keys? wallet maybe? what a tool. let me guess, you'll have to pay more taxes. waaaaaaa. don't like it, tough shit. or don't pay them and end up in prison, then you'll lose alot more.

SilverMark -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 2:22:11 PM)
52% for a non-incumbant is LARGE!.......

Naga -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 2:24:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark 52% for a non-incumbant is LARGE!....... cough There was no incumbent here....... Obama was not running against Bush, no matter what he said.

variation30 -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 2:57:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rexrgisformidoni and what pray tell would you have lost? your lunch? your keys? wallet maybe? what a tool. let me guess, you'll have to pay more taxes. waaaaaaa. don't like it, tough shit. or don't pay them and end up in prison, then you'll lose alot more. well, for starters I'll be losing the value on my property through horrendous economic policies. I stand to lose even more constitutional liberties. I stand to lose security through terrible foreign policies. by the way, I am speaking of both mccain and obama here. neither one of them would/will make good presidents. and I like the ever so trenchant rebuttal that is 'waaaaaaa. don't like it, tough shit.' you've missed your calling as a lobbyist.

HunterS -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:00:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Right. That's why he just got elected by a relatively large majority. [sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif] allow me to be more specific, as you may have missed the context of this post. the people who didn't vote for him didn't like his policies. and he did not win by a relatively large majority. A win by a margin of more than two to one is considered by most to be a relatively large majority. H.

slvemike4u -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:01:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 quote: ORIGINAL: rexrgisformidoni and what pray tell would you have lost? your lunch? your keys? wallet maybe? what a tool. let me guess, you'll have to pay more taxes. waaaaaaa. don't like it, tough shit. or don't pay them and end up in prison, then you'll lose alot more. well, for starters I'll be losing the value on my property through horrendous economic policies. I stand to lose even more constitutional liberties. I stand to lose security through terrible foreign policies. by the way, I am speaking of both mccain and obama here. neither one of them would/will make good presidents. and I like the ever so trenchant rebuttal that is 'waaaaaaa. don't like it, tough shit.' you've missed your calling as a lobbyist. More constitutional liberties than you had lost under President Bush? Which liberties are you envisioning losing under President Obama?

HunterS -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:02:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark 52% for a non-incumbant is LARGE!....... What is significant is that almost half of the people who voted chose to vote for a man who promised them he would bring them 50 more years of war in Iraq and invade Iran. H.

celticlord2112 -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:08:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SilverMark 52% for a non-incumbant is LARGE!....... Warren Harding, Herbert Hoover, and Dwight Eisenhower were all non-incumbents, not running against an incumbent President, with significantly larger winning percentages. George H.W. Bush won 53.37% of the popular vote. What is fascinating is that all of these Presidents were Republican...... So, if all one considers is Democratic winners, yes, the percentage is quite large. If one looks at American Presidents, the percentage is significantly less so.

HunterS -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:15:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: If trafficking in divisive hate is the game, it's only fitting and fair we play in both directions. Aside from the false premise, so now two wrongs logically make a right. No wonder these discussions are so often pointless. Why not? It's in the spirit of the Democratic and liberal platform. As a Southerner who is more red then blue, Red is for the incumbent and blue is for the challenger...but then I am sure you knew that. allow me to summarize and paraphrase the Democratic campaign through my eyes. It usually begins with a self righteous outcry against GREED! Greed is ruining this country. The problem is the greedy rich and Corporate America. Then that self righteous claim to being above greed is negated by one of the following statements. I don't want to pay taxes. Let the rich pay for them! Don't you think it is about time that the rich did pay taxes? I don't want to pay for health insurance. Let the rich and responsible carry the burden of my smoking, alcholicism and lack of exercise. Who cares if it bankrupts the country? I'm what's important If I am not mistaken wasn't it the rich tobacco guys who lied and pimped tobacco products on the people and told us that it was not harmful. Isn't it the Pharmaceutical companies who can sell drugs to the rest of the world at cut rate prices but lobby to make it illegal for U.S. citizens to go to Mexico or Canada to buy those same drugs? Do you really believe that the rich are acting in a "responsible" fashion? I don't want to work. Give me welfare! Welfare for the rich far exceeds the welfare that is doled out in a pittance to the poor. I don't want to earn my education. Give me grants for school! Before there was free public education only the rich had access to an academic education...would you prefer the U.S. to be a nation of 300 million illiterates? I don't want to have earn my success. Give me jobs because of my skin color! That is pretty much how it was until the courts said it was illegal to refuse jobs to people of color. The South is built on a strong ideology of hard work for a hard day's pay, Hard work by slaves for no pay. indepedence, self sufficientcy, and taking care of one's own. An idealogy I am proudly a part of. You really do need to avail yourself of a history book...your post show an appalling lack of knowledge of the history of this country. I don't want anything from anyone except my paycheck minus my fair contribution to our nation's infrastructure. Just how much is your fair share? Is it all that surprising that in light of this that the majority of Southern states vote Red? Those who voted "Red" voted for a man who promised them fifty more years of war in Iraq and an invasion of Iran.

slvemike4u -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:16:28 PM)
Fascinating numbers CL,and yet with all that the man you refer to as "Dear Leader" will in fact be The President of The United States of America. With a friendly Senate and House of Represenatives Cool heh!!!!!

nightphoenix -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:19:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 Dear Leader will have to rewrite a few history texts before his victory becomes "huge". I think it would be appropriate to replace "dear" with "Our". "Our Leader" sounds so much more respectful. Thank you. And... a little genuflexion now and again wouldn't do any harm. ~ the Presidential Protocol Police "Our" leader would be inaccurate. He's certainly not leading me anywhere. (And yes, before you accuse me of "not getting your joke" again, I did in fact get it.)

HunterS -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:20:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 only white people can be racist. This is,quite possibly, the most asinine post I have ever read. H.

MadRabbit -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:22:12 PM)
Drink the Kool-aid and sell out your own political beliefs and ideologies to join the winning team! Become an Obamian! So what if your level of integrity is in question regarding your own values? You will get lower taxes, free health insurance, and maybe...just maybe....the Messiah will touch you on the forehead and cure you of your racist Southern ways! Messiah Obama, save me from your followers! Please!

stef -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:22:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nightphoenix "Our" leader would be inaccurate. Have you moved to your new utopia yet? ~stef

philosophy -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:23:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HunterS quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 only white people can be racist. This is,quite possibly, the most asinine post I have ever read. H. ...oh don't worry, in these fora there's always another, even more asinine quote around the corner.......

HunterS -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:23:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyS1WJNisM&feature=related our problems are because of the 'simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it and they have an antipathy towards the means of redistributing wealth.' jesus christ... The people who have wealth have no problem redistributing wealth up just against redistributing it down...whycome?

slvemike4u -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:23:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nightphoenix quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 Dear Leader will have to rewrite a few history texts before his victory becomes "huge". I think it would be appropriate to replace "dear" with "Our". "Our Leader" sounds so much more respectful. Thank you. And... a little genuflexion now and again wouldn't do any harm. ~ the Presidential Protocol Police "Our" leader would be inaccurate. He's certainly not leading me anywhere. (And yes, before you accuse me of "not getting your joke" again, I did in fact get it.) Thats right,you'll be leaving,won't you?

nightphoenix -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:23:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: nightphoenix "Our" leader would be inaccurate. Have you moved to your new utopia yet? ~stef Irrelevanet to the topic of discussion. ;)

celticlord2112 -> RE: Politics and the South (11/12/2008 3:25:29 PM)
quote: Fascinating numbers CL,and yet with all that the man you refer to as "Dear Leader" will in fact be The President of The United States of America. With a friendly Senate and House of Represenatives Cool heh!!!!! Don't recall denying that Dear Leader is about to become President. As for the friendliness of the Congress towards Dear Leader, that remains to be seen (Clinton in 1992 had a "friendly" Congress). As for how cool it is having Congress and the Executive in the same political party.....it isn't. Divided government is good government.

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