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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 11:06:03 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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I disagree also. In fact, I was wondering about something. Several have posted the same thing, that anal sex is the equivalent of total submission. I was just curious as to how some could feel that way? I don't see any submission in it at all. Or is that just because I actually like it alot, and will even go out of my way to initiate it. ? ( yes, all of that was really kind of a question lol )

Just a value that they put on it. Some people say "giving up my safeword is the ultimate in submission"

It's an act of surrendering an intimate, vulnerable part of yourself.

The specifica act itself can be anything.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 11:10:12 AM   
nephandi


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Status: offline 		i dont see it as submission in itself, many vanillas use anal sex, it is getting used analy, not being made loved to analy but being used that turn me on.,

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 11:22:38 AM   
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i must be a dirty girl. i love anal sex. it hurts the first thrust but then i relax and it feels soooo good.


I agree, you must be a dirty girl. Isnt it the greatest??

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 11:32:24 AM   
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I disagree also. In fact, I was wondering about something. Several have posted the same thing, that anal sex is the equivalent of total submission. I was just curious as to how some could feel that way? I don't see any submission in it at all. Or is that just because I actually like it alot, and will even go out of my way to initiate it. ? ( yes, all of that was really kind of a question lol )


(Im addressing this point in the context of M/f sex because I think there is a different dynamic with M/m anal, as the sub male's prostate is actually directly stimulated during anal, so please dont think Im sexist...aw hell, go ahead and think it if you want...)

I think the gist of saying it is the ultimate in submission is that the implied purpose of anal sex is for the man's release and not the pleasure of the woman, the fact that that orafice is specifically designed, unlike the other two, for ONE WAY movement of substances OUT of the body and not in, and the fact that it can be very uncomfortable (not that that isnt true of a lot of things some people enjoy...) and the social taboo assoicated with anal. It is actually illegal in some places.
I can think of some things that, for me, feel a lot more submissive than taking anal ("dont spill a single drop" comes to mind), but symbolically speaking, it does carry a certain amount of meaning with regard to submission for me personally.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 11:54:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think there is a powerful sense of transgression that accompanies many acts. What precisely is being transgressed varies from individual to individual and even from occasion to occasion. I personally find anal sex very transgressive for a number of reasons. I personally enjoy that so many submissives see it as transgressive also and enjoy the sense of being used, taken and the associations with rape. The act can even be accompanied by utterances that heighten the sense of control, humiliation, or shame.

I think one of the more interesting facets of anal sex in relation to women is the fact that the much more sensible location for sex is right next door in the vagina. The vagina is soft, dark, self-lubricating, surrounded by powerful muscles, and generally just delicious. To me, the beginning of transgression is in the nature of the act of anal sex to reject the vagina - to reject the woman's presumed key female trait. The woman is neutered - when you take her in the ass she's just a fuck hole.

I have used anal sex to reduce a woman to a more animal state, to remind her that there is a part of this in which she is just a receptacle for my pleasure - and even she cannot choose what kind of vessel she is, she may not even be female. I have also used anal sex for acts of near rape and also for punishment. And those acts are powerful.

Say what you like about the penis - but in the end we all know it's a weapon of a kind. It extends out from a man and bridges the empty space between a man and a woman. The penis is the singular part of male anatomy that defines his maleness. The center of femaleness is not located in a woman's breasts, nor in her vagina, nor anywhere else that she can find on her person - that which makes her uniquely female is actually an empty space. She is a sheath of flesh, a hole, a void.

The woman can be taken, she can be filled, and the man may even leave the mark of his having been there - that viscous, white, phlegmy goo that seeps from her empty spaces.

I return you now to your ordinary reality...

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 12:19:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		okay, you got me,,,,, i just love it period. i started having it in my vanilla life and it has come into this life and i just love it.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 12:30:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaingang
The woman can be taken, she can be filled, and the man may even leave the mark of his having been there - that viscous, white, phlegmy goo that seeps from her empty spaces.

I return you now to your ordinary reality...

OK yeah THAT turned me on. Mmhmm.

However, please don't have anal sex without a condom without thorough testing and long term committed monogamy.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 12:48:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

- to reject the woman's presumed key female trait. The woman is neutered - when you take her in the ass she's just a fuck hole.


Zackly.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 1:37:01 PM   
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Say what you like about the penis - but in the end we all know it's a weapon of a kind. It extends out from a man and bridges the empty space between a man and a woman. The penis is the singular part of male anatomy that defines his maleness. The center of femaleness is not located in a woman's breasts, nor in her vagina, nor anywhere else that she can find on her person - that which makes her uniquely female is actually an empty space. She is a sheath of flesh, a hole, a void.

The woman can be taken, she can be filled, and the man may even leave the mark of his having been there - that viscous, white, phlegmy goo that seeps from her empty spaces.


I found that entire excerpt to be a turn on. I think it got me at the word "weapon".

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 1:45:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Say what you like about the penis - but in the end we all know it's a weapon of a kind. It extends out from a man and bridges the empty space between a man and a woman. The penis is the singular part of male anatomy that defines his maleness. The center of femaleness is not located in a woman's breasts, nor in her vagina, nor anywhere else that she can find on her person - that which makes her uniquely female is actually an empty space. She is a sheath of flesh, a hole, a void.

The woman can be taken, she can be filled, and the man may even leave the mark of his having been there - that viscous, white, phlegmy goo that seeps from her empty spaces.


I found that entire excerpt to be a turn on. I think it got me at the word "weapon".


Turn on, shit ! I was jumping up and down saying Halleluiah...... TELL EM BROTHAAAAAA !

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 2:14:07 PM   
nonuts4thshoney


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaingang
The woman can be taken, she can be filled, and the man may even leave the mark of his having been there - that viscous, white, phlegmy goo that seeps from her empty spaces.

I return you now to your ordinary reality...

OK yeah THAT turned me on. Mmhmm.

However, please don't have anal sex without a condom without thorough testing and long term committed monogamy.




Ewwwww...LMAO...ok i'm right there with ya on this one

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 2:53:32 PM   
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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 4:02:15 PM   
chocolatte2004


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Status: offline 		Having lost my anal virginity in the last couple of months, i am finding it to be INTENSELY pleasuarable. i think most of it is the being "taken", also the fact that it is truly "His alone" as no one else has ever been there. The fact that i have to will my body to relax, and accept Him, submit past discomfort or pain and in that, as i do that, pleasure comes to meet me. mmmmmmmmmmm

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 6:03:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Anal Sex Aftershock

Anal Sex Followed by Regular Fucking

Yet another thread about anal sex

Needing Anal Sex Advice

Anal sex- condom or no condom?

Anal Sex (2)



Thanks for the previous threads LA.

I took a look at them and seen where alot of useful information was there. Luckily as far as anal sex is concerned. I knew alot of this. The one thing that still erks me. Is finding out from other threads, that I've been robbed of being able to experiance an anal orgasm. I really truely had no idea that there was such a thing. I guess it's because once i get past the pain into the pleasure of anal sex, hell... he's usually done. I mean, I've experianced an orgasm but of normal type. Because from what I understand, there's a differance. And if there really is, I have missed out on something. At least I know this will all be new to me and my new Master, once we begin this journey of exploration.
Going to be a bitch I know, not having any at all for past 5 years. So this is all going to be new to me again.

But still, thanks again LA for those links to previous threads. Some helpful information was still in there on learning things I didn't know or hear about either.


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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 6:29:26 PM   
dincubus


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Status: offline 		sometimes, for me it is not getting my submissive to submit to it. she has had a previous bad experience with it and we moved slowly into it and one time, we did have it happen. she does desire it more. i will have to say that it was a rush on both sides of the coin.
personally, i have enjoyed giving on the vanilla side as well with past partners. so it is a more intense feeling as well as being a taboo.
sometimes being dirty is fun <grin>

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/20/2005 8:45:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truesub4u
At least I know this will all be new to me and my new Master, once we begin this journey of exploration.
Going to be a bitch I know, not having any at all for past 5 years. So this is all going to be new to me again.

But still, thanks again LA for those links to previous threads. Some helpful information was still in there on learning things I didn't know or hear about either.

No prob, glad it helped. Mostly I just like having them there for my own resources when I want to look something up (I am that much of a geek).

And don't worry about the orgasms. Some subs agonize over never being into subspace. Some subs agonze over not being able to orgasm on command.

THe majority of women cannot have an orgasm without repeated clitoral stimulation. You're not deficient if you are this way, you're not even deficient if you're like me and can only orgasm by masturbation or with very specific prolonged stimulation.

Sure there's always more we COULD do, and I'm all for trying it out and training your body to do fun tricks...but please don't feel like you're somehow LACKING or missing something because you can't orgasm from something getting shoved into your ass.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/21/2005 12:54:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross




And don't worry about the orgasms. Some subs agonize over never being into subspace. Some subs agonze over not being able to orgasm on command.

THe majority of women cannot have an orgasm without repeated clitoral stimulation. You're not deficient if you are this way, you're not even deficient if you're like me and can only orgasm by masturbation or with very specific prolonged stimulation.

Sure there's always more we COULD do, and I'm all for trying it out and training your body to do fun tricks...but please don't feel like you're somehow LACKING or missing something because you can't orgasm from something getting shoved into your ass.



It's not thiat i think i'm lacking... wait. oh yes hell it is...LOL

If there's a chance that this is something that CAN happen. I want to be able to say to myself.. Oh hell i had one.. and know if i can have another or not.


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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/21/2005 1:00:19 PM   
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please don't feel like you're somehow LACKING or missing something because you can't orgasm from something getting shoved into your ass.


Where's that courtesy reach around when you need it?



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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/21/2005 1:02:49 PM   
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please don't feel like you're somehow LACKING or missing something because you can't orgasm from something getting shoved into your ass.


Where's that courtesy reach around when you need it?

LOL do you mean reaching around to your front and playing with your clitoris? I hate that- it throws me off balance and makes the angle weird, they can never keep direct and steady pressure on the clit and that just feels annoying. Sometimes I will play with my own clit and get off that way, but not the other person.

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RE: The Anal Sex Thread - 12/21/2005 1:04:10 PM   
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