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Termyn8or -> RE: Bishops Vow to Confront Obama Administration Over Abortion (11/14/2008 10:11:37 AM)
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Nice celt. I would have to agree that if one side applies the pressure, the other should have a chance as well.
My position on abortion seems unique. It is premeditated murder plain and simple and is wrong, but on the other hand nobody forces anybody to have an abortion either.
The needs of the many outweigh the rights of the unborn, if they are considered to exist. The stresses put on society by wanton stupid acts warrants a departure from true morality. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. Abortion is a necessary evil. All I can say to these religious types is this, "OK, we are going to take every Woman who comes in for an abortion, capture her, force her to have the baby, and then bring you the babies, oh, and the hospital bills as well, agreed ?".
This is where seperation of church and state comes in.First of all there is no such thing, but there is. This is not a Catholic country, nor even a Christian country. I actually don't consider Catholicism to be Christian anyway, but that's beside the point.
You will not find the words Christ, God, Pope, YHWH or anything like that in the Constitution. They used the word Creator.
It just occured to me, so to be honest I will tell you this, I would have alot more respect for these people if they were protesting abortion on purely moral grounds, rather than being whipped up into a lather by some preacher wearing more jewelry than I own. That Good Book is not so good.
So I almost have a dilemma, I agree with them, it is wrong to kill a fetus. Most definitely so, but we must. We must because those who have already been born have not learned.
Maybe I have been around more people than most, or maybe I just take it differently and have my own conclusions. I have always used protection when having sex, and way back I might have not been so smart, but I knew it and I knew I was not ready. Now I am ready but too old. Sorry about my luck I guess but that's the way a life shapes up. I was too irresponsible, and the main difference between me and those who wound up with a bunch of kids is that I knew my limitations. Do I want to stop partying and all that ? No.
So I guess trojan is my Saviour, therefore I have never had nor paid for an abortion.
It just occurred to me, let's just start our own religion. The Wiccans did it, and Wiccans are pretty reasonable in their beliefs. I agree with a good part of their tenets, save a few I just can't swallow. But what about a religion of no deity whatsoever. Not Atheist, there is something but we are not on this plane of existence to figure that out.
The religion of survival. The religion that lets teenagers who made a bad decision one night to have an abortion, rather than wreck their life. A religion that does not condone all the necessary evils in life, yet can see the need.
Personally I would think it would be a good thing to give away tubal ligations to anyone wanting a free abortion, errrrr taxpayer funded abortion. Think about it, if you purposely destroyed a life you created for personal gain, which is exactly what you do when you have an abortion, they make it so that you cannot create any more life, thus making further taxpayer financed murders unnecessary. Less murders is good no ? Why wouldn't that satisfy everyone ?
I know why, it's human nature.
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