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RE: Trekkies - 11/17/2008 7:56:47 PM   
MarsBonfire


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Status: offline 		Okay, fun thread, but I think the OP's memory might be a litle faulty. I can assure him that NONE of the TOS episodes have disappeared, and the scenes he was referring to in "Day the Earth Stood Still" never happened.

The other fun thing about Nichelle Nichols' early career: she was a fetish model. If you Google her in images, you'll run across them. The woman looks great in a corset and a set of ballet toed stillettos!

Of all the Trek series, I still think my all time favorite episode has to be the one from DS9, where Sisko goes into a coma, and imagines himself as a science fiction writer in the late 1940's, and has to deal with racisim, and the slippery nature of "reality."

As far as there being a religion to the Klingons... I seem to recall an episode of TNG where someone was using high tech to impersonate the Klingon version of the devil... that to me seems to indicate that, yeah, they have a religion.

I try to not get that deep into TV shows though. Anytime you read too much into any fantasy, be it Trek, LOTR, Star Wars, or the local BDSM pulp adventure kool-aide... you begin to slip onto paths that could end up wasting tons of your life, with nothing to show for it. Science fiction, horror and fantasy are great fun... but as Shatner famously said on SNL: "It's just a TV show! Get a life!"

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RE: Trekkies - 11/17/2008 8:22:11 PM   
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Ok...a couple of facts for the younger Trekkies here....

1. The original pilot "The Menagerie" starring Jeffery Hunter as Capt. Christopher Pike was produced in 1963 and pitched to the networks in 1964. It failed to grab the interest of the network execs at the time who were more interested in westerns like Gunsmoke.

2. The Original Series as we know it "Star Trek" starring William Shatner as Capt. James T. Kirk started in sept. 1966 was canceled in 1968 after the second season. Thousands of outraged fans wrote letters begging them not to cancel and it was subsequently revived for one more season 1969. If memory serves me correctly it garnered a total of 79 episodes.

3. The original pilot never actually aired as part of the series, but was later released and aired in syndication. In the original series, the original pilot was mixed with new footage to create "The Cage" where Spock hijacked the Enterprise to Talos IV, in order to give Capt. Pike a more pleasing outlook to the end of his life. They had portrayed him as a quadraplegic vegetable bound to a wheelchair only able to communicate via a blinking light connected to his brain. The Talosians were able to let him live within the confines of his mind and be fully functional again (sort of like the Matrix).

4. I don't remember the name of the episode, but it was a Greek culture setting where Kirk was forced to kiss Uhuru. That was TV's first interracial kiss. Uhuru (Nichelle Nichols) was also the first African-American female to have a primary role in a TV series. (This episode was called: "Plato's Step Children)

5. She (Nichols) also dated Gene Roddenberry for a time, before he eventually married Majel Barrett, who starred as nurse Christine Chapel in TOS and Lwaxana Troi in TNG, and as the computer voice in ALL star trek productions.

ok....yeah....I'm a trekkie and probably know way too many facts about the show, but I enjoyed them all, though I did not much like the last one titled "Enterprise", as well I will concede that Voyager and DS9 struggled to stay alive in their last 2 and 3 seasons respectively. The only series I can think of that comes close in over all quality of content and screenplay of social issues is M*A*S*H. Roddenberry was a genius in that regard and had a high demand for conformity in his vision of the future. Sadly, when Rick Berman inheirited the legacy of Roddenberry, he was more interested in creating conflicts within each of the series and straying far to the left of what Gene believed in.



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RE: Trekkies - 11/17/2008 8:23:25 PM   
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RE: Trekkies - 11/17/2008 9:44:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mars, if I am wrong my memory is indeed faulty. I saw the scene in The Day The Earth Stood Still. I did not see the other scene mentioned about the Woman wanting to go with Klatoo, but that one at the UN I actually saw. Face it, once it winds up on the cutting room floor it can be easily forgotten.

I don't remember the DS9 episode you mentioned though. The TNG episode you mentioned though, if it is the one I think you mean it wasn't Klingons, it was somebody else. The being came back to collect for these things that she supposedly did for them in the past. Piccard had to muster up a little bit of technology also, and it wound up being like a court case. However IIRC Warf did say that he thought she was the equivalent of the Klingon devil, or whatever. She had come to collect basically and Piccard proved that their prosperity wasn't caused by her,  but by their own efforts. IIRC she was quite the hottie also. She apparently had Godlike powers, but the crew found that it was all technology and built a few special devices giving Piccard similar abilities.

Another really interesting episode was when Piccard got the flute. Some probe comes along and aims a beam at his head which put him in a coma for a number of hours. During that time he lived a good part of a life, or thought he did, on a planet with a sun about to go supernova. The probe was that race's way of preserving their memory supposedly because they knew they were going to die. At the end of the part where he was under control of the probe, he witnessed the launching. Later he played a song that he figured out while living that psuedo-life, on a flute or something similar found on the probe or something.

Another thing I saw was alot of paralells between TNG and TOS. Remember Kirk's Wife ? Neomani, on the manufactured planet with inhabitants who closely resembled Native Americans. The Enterprise had to leave for some reason, and he fell in love with her and got her pregnant. Behold a God who bleeds ! Later they stoned her to death and were pretty much doing him the same way when Spock and Bones showed back up. The words "Kirk to Enterprise" coming after the noises a communicator made when first opened triggered the opening of a door in a temple of sorts, which actually contained navigational controls as well as a method to destroy the rather large asteriod or whatever on a collision course.

My memory is quite jogged now. Remember Landrew ? How about when Bones had a fatal incurable diease and got himself married. Remember "For I have climbed the mountain, and I have touched the sky". At that point the guy drops dead. Of course in keeping with Star Trek fashion they got to the machine running the place, which in this case was a hollow sphere which was actually a ship and the people live inside, blissfully unaware that they were "no longer in Kansas" so to speak. Of course Spock goes down there, pushes a few buttons and saves them as well. And then they find a cure for what was killing Bones. It was incurable, and he had decided to retire and enjoy the time he had left on,,,,,,,well alive. Had left on Earth just doesn't apply here.

I really should get my old VCRs lubed up and running. That way I don't bother you all as much. Right now though I would not even plug them in until they're lubed. Especially the one is known for dried out lube in a certain spot which causes it to strip a gear, which you can't get. And we haven't even gotten to the BETA yet. I have alot of very old BETA tapes, among them the last episode of MASH, WITH commercials. Last time I watched it was over ten years ago, and even then the commercials were awesome (I still hate that word but I lost my Roget's). They are so different, everything is so different.

Suffice it to say they don't make TV like that anymore. That fact probably has alot to do with me not liking it anymore. I can't say it was more real, that would be stupid, I just can't really describe it. Suffice it to say I will not be getting a DTV box, I have already given my coupons away. I can go to the olman's and watch Millionaire and Jeopardy, and I see the news at work. I don't want any of this junk that passes for entertainment these days.

Damn, I sound like a fuddy-duddy.

T

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 1:23:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: switchtosub

Oh yeah, the episode with the Greek god who appropriates one of the female crewmembers... Danged if I can remember the title, and I used to watch that show in black&white. Total shock the first time I saw it in color and then realized that the guy who dies in the first five minutes is always wearing a red shirt.

I do remember that they had to glue the top of the dress in that episode onto the actress' skin. It was some wisp that curled from one hip to the opposite shoulder and had to cover everything the censors demanded be covered *and* hold up a drag-on-the-floor pleated cape. Why was it they never allowed the underside of a breast to show? Did they think mold grows there? And no navels, either. Maybe it was that same episode, but I distinctly remember a dress with a skirt that began at the hip line but had this big cutout square covering the navel.

The only other author I can remember is David Gerrold, who wrote "The Trouble With Tribbles." Not exactly a stellar (if you'll pardon the pun) name in SF.

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Semi Hijack for the Fuddy Duddy Old Trekkies on here

this post reminded me of one of the books in the new frontier series

see like Term i decided id reminisce and  get my hands on all the books written and read em ... so far ive breezed through mainly the new frontier series  ( sorta between TNG and DS9 )

Said female crewmember produced a child back on earth .. who goes to starfleet and through some twists and turns  ends up as helmsman on excalibar .. a lone ship sent into the remains of what was once the tallonian  empire ( i know i never heard of it either .. suposedly they were xenophobes till their planet exploded giving birth to a great big firey bird which had been laid in it 10,000 years ago )  the helmsman then proceeds to save the day by becoming a human / godlike hybrid and kicking the ass of all his  aunt and uncle gods who are trying to rule the galaxy for nefarius reasons

suffice is to say the books are back to the old gene  type episodes rather than lots of space battles

the other book series ive read so far was SCE ( starfleet core of engineers ) run by a revived time traveling mr scotty ( ok i know he was in transport status but thats not as fun ) it stars a whole gang of geordi`s frat buddies running around fixing things ... alien space ships ... stations that circle the equateor of an entire planet ... and in what i can only assume was a bow to douglas adams .. an infinite improbability ship gone crazy

the difference is with no actors to pay no execs to impress the books can be what they want to be and keep coming

as for the shows .. while i loved TNG ... watched voyager just to see if stick to the rules janeway ever managed to get home , and reminisced by watching TOS episodes my favorite ever has got to be DS9 ... i mean come on thhe combined romulan kilingon federation fleet going up against the dominan ( and the visuals with it ..) beats the pants off any of those great borg battles ....  the original  episodes with worf and the defiant just made me yell (* oh your gonna get an asss whoopin now * at the screen ... and for the earlier parts sisco managed to combine starfleet officer and religious figure without crossing the lines too much on both

plus the Dax`s were hot !!!!


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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 1:29:34 AM   
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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 2:57:53 AM   
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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 4:04:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

laz, I saw this with my own eyes.You want a copy of the tape ? And Pike was the captain in that one other episode. I saw it, I was there. Well not there but you know what I mean.

I am 48 and I saw these episodes first hand on a TV that had tubes in it. The cage and the other one had Pike, if it was remade with Kirk, well maybe it was. And the tape with doomsday machine on it still exists, in matters like this, I don't care what any source says. I WAS THERE.

However I am willing to drop the issue in the interest of moving on. How many years have I got to argue one point like this ?

T


I don't need a copy of the tape, I have my own tapes in storage, as well as the DVD releases. I saw it with my own eyes as well. And if you're so unwilling to even accept what the official Star Trek website, owned and run by PARAMOUNT STUDIOS says, then yes, we'll drop it because it is indeed pointless.

Please refer to:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/episodes/TOS/detail/68664.html



And Jeffrey Hunter's own IMDB lists him as:
  1. "Star Trek" .... Captain Christopher Pike (1 episode, 1966)
    ... aka Star Trek: TOS (USA: promotional abbreviation)
    ... aka Star Trek: The Original Series (USA: informal title)
       - The Cage (1966) TV episode .... Captain Christopher Pike

And here's William Shatner's IMDB:

  1. Where No Man Has Gone Before (22 September 1966) - Captain James T. Kirk 


Now after this post I will make no more mention of it, as I do indeed enjoy this chance to talk Trek on collarme.

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 4:07:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Darias

quote:

ORIGINAL: switchtosub

Oh yeah, the episode with the Greek god who appropriates one of the female crewmembers... Danged if I can remember the title, and I used to watch that show in black&white. Total shock the first time I saw it in color and then realized that the guy who dies in the first five minutes is always wearing a red shirt.

I do remember that they had to glue the top of the dress in that episode onto the actress' skin. It was some wisp that curled from one hip to the opposite shoulder and had to cover everything the censors demanded be covered *and* hold up a drag-on-the-floor pleated cape. Why was it they never allowed the underside of a breast to show? Did they think mold grows there? And no navels, either. Maybe it was that same episode, but I distinctly remember a dress with a skirt that began at the hip line but had this big cutout square covering the navel.

The only other author I can remember is David Gerrold, who wrote "The Trouble With Tribbles." Not exactly a stellar (if you'll pardon the pun) name in SF.

"Ensign Nebbish! Go look behind that big rock over there!"
"Aye aye sir! AAAIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!"
"He's dead, Jim!"


Semi Hijack for the Fuddy Duddy Old Trekkies on here

this post reminded me of one of the books in the new frontier series

see like Term i decided id reminisce and  get my hands on all the books written and read em ... so far ive breezed through mainly the new frontier series  ( sorta between TNG and DS9 )

Said female crewmember produced a child back on earth .. who goes to starfleet and through some twists and turns  ends up as helmsman on excalibar .. a lone ship sent into the remains of what was once the tallonian  empire ( i know i never heard of it either .. suposedly they were xenophobes till their planet exploded giving birth to a great big firey bird which had been laid in it 10,000 years ago )  the helmsman then proceeds to save the day by becoming a human / godlike hybrid and kicking the ass of all his  aunt and uncle gods who are trying to rule the galaxy for nefarius reasons

suffice is to say the books are back to the old gene  type episodes rather than lots of space battles

the other book series ive read so far was SCE ( starfleet core of engineers ) run by a revived time traveling mr scotty ( ok i know he was in transport status but thats not as fun ) it stars a whole gang of geordi`s frat buddies running around fixing things ... alien space ships ... stations that circle the equateor of an entire planet ... and in what i can only assume was a bow to douglas adams .. an infinite improbability ship gone crazy

the difference is with no actors to pay no execs to impress the books can be what they want to be and keep coming

as for the shows .. while i loved TNG ... watched voyager just to see if stick to the rules janeway ever managed to get home , and reminisced by watching TOS episodes my favorite ever has got to be DS9 ... i mean come on thhe combined romulan kilingon federation fleet going up against the dominan ( and the visuals with it ..) beats the pants off any of those great borg battles ....  the original  episodes with worf and the defiant just made me yell (* oh your gonna get an asss whoopin now * at the screen ... and for the earlier parts sisco managed to combine starfleet officer and religious figure without crossing the lines too much on both

plus the Dax`s were hot !!!!



If you're into reading Trek as well as watching it, you have to go out and read the DS9 Relaunch. It picks up where the series left off, and is just a phenomenal storytelling. Here's a teaser: remember those parasites that almost took over Starfleet in the first season TNG episode Conspiracy?

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 5:31:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose this is all going to get popular again, what with the J.J. Abrhams movie coming out this coming summer.

Termy, I've been a fan of the old 1950's science fiction films since I was a kid (a loooong time now) and I've never heard anyone even suggest that there were missing scenes to "Day the Earth Stood Still." I've heard and seen missing scenes from plenty of other films from that era, (including Forbidden Planet, This Island Earth, King Kong, etc. I've even seen discarded scenes from "The Wizard of Oz") but so far, I've never even seen it suggested that there was ever a scene with Klattu at the UN... and why would Patricia Neal's character want to go with him? Her son was here...

(shrug) You say you've seen these... you should get your evidence together, and write an article about it for FILMFAX or something. You could make a few bucks on it.

Anyway... in regards to Trek... any fandom that gives you a reason to lead your girlfriend through hallways at a con, on a leash, while she's painted green, is okay by me. ;)


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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 5:52:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Why Lady ? He only saved the Earth about a half dozen times, the galaxy three or four, not sure, and the universe at least once. Actually Data was almost as good, but he didn't have that deep voice.

But then if you heard Leonard Nimoy sing you might change your mind.

You twinkle above us,
We twinkle below.........

Damn that was a waste of vinyl if I ever saw one.

T



I think Spock was quite sexy and Data a bit too mechanic for my taste (despite his affair with Tasha), as for singing, have you ever heard Shattner murder songs?

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 7:56:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		No website will convince me, however I will admit that I could be wrong and leave it at that.

I was totally mistaken on the Greek episode, thinking that it was the one with "Parmen" I think the leader's name was, I had forgotten about Who Cries For Apollo. Thanks for the additional memory jog.

Also not to hijack but now that this part of my brain is online, the new Outer Limits - Small Talent For War. That one was a pretty good mind fuck at the end. Anyone remember it ?

Not to dwell on that though, I appreciate the reminders about episodes I had forgotten. I had also forgotten that they canceled the show around 1967 or so, and that public pressure bought it back.

Also someone mentioned Forbidden Planet. I liked it quite a bit, the brain booster, all the cool stuff left behind by the Krell, the monster from the id. But now I have a question for old scifi experts that might just really stress your brain. (Trekkies, this is CM, no subject is etched in stone obviously, so that doesn't mean that Star Trek is the only acceptable topic)

There was an old movie, and I know it was unscientific because the whole premise was literally impossible, but it was still a pretty cool movie. The guy gets to the planet and because of gravity is reduced in size then meets the inhabitants. The planet had alot of gravity and they used it like we use electronics. In it there was some sort of fight or duel and the object was to throw your opponent over one of these gravity plates which had such a strong gravity field that the person would be instantly disintegrated. During the guy's visit another race attacks the planet and they repelled the attack and explained that they had learned to reverse gravity, which they used for defense, and I would guess a few other things. They also had some sort of creature locked up and the cell door was naturally a strong and focused gravity field. You probably have to be old with a touch of dementia to remember this one. It was in black and white and I think it was already old when I saw it. Color TV existed when I saw it but it was in black and white so what does that tell you ? If I could get my hands on a copy of that, wow.

I can't even seem to readily find a copy of They Live with Rowdy Roddy Piper in it as the main character. I downloaded it but there seems to have been a problem with the encoding because it locks up, the sound keeps on but the picture goes into a freeze frame periodically and it happens enough that it is almost unwatchable.

At any rate, I would consider buying one of those collections of all the "favorite" TOS episodes but my favorites are not quite their favorites. I was quite unimpressed with The Trouble With Tribbles, which many consider to be a popular favorite. Of course I was never really into top forty music either, until like twenty years after the fact.

Now for some reason I'm thinking about the episode of TOS with Kahn, played by Riccardo Montelbahn. Was that one called Space Seed ?

Enough for now. I have more rabblerousing to do before I go to work.

T

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 7:58:14 AM   
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Damn, I sound like a fuddy-duddy.


:::raising a fist in solidarity with all the fuddy duddy old trekkies here:::

(in old man's whispery voice) Yeah, I remember the old days. Black & white TV, rabbit ears, "uh-oh, spaghettios," "I'd walk a mile for a Camel," having to run home after school so you don't miss "Dark Shadows" because there were no VCRs...(/old man's voice)

And the great old days of running around cons in my authentic Uhura uniform! Love those go-go boots...

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 8:08:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Termyn8or, I have no clue about the movie you mention, and I thought I was pretty well versed in SF. I do remember the first time I showed Forbidden Planet to my adult daughter, and when she saw the flying saucer they arrived in, her eyes got big and she said "NO WAY!"

Does anybody know if they ever made a movie from Philip Wylie's The Disappearance or Alfred Bester's The Demolished Man? And speaking of Alfred Bester, didn't Walter Koenig make the best evil Mr. Bester of the Psi-Corps on Babylon 5? Which also, IIRC, starred a bald Majel Barrett in one episode as the Centaurii Emperor's wife/widow. B5 was a way cool show. We still periodically watch it.

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 8:38:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Babylon 5, I had forgotten about that one. It was good enough that I did watch some of them, but I don't think it reached the level of TOS. Actually I don't think the subsequent Star Trek series' did either. Oh yes, there were some great episodes but what I saw was some of them just being a modified story line with new characters, loosely based on TOS. To me TOS was the innovation, it would bend your mind around pretty good especially considering when it came out.

T

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 9:16:35 AM   
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For my money, DS9 was the best of them. Great writing, character development, and continuity. I particularly liked Quark. Always looking for an angle.

B5, however, is simply beyond compare. I have Season 1 disc 4 in now.

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 10:41:20 AM   
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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 6:17:33 PM   
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Babylon 5, I had forgotten about that one. It was good enough that I did watch some of them, but I don't think it reached the level of TOS. Actually I don't think the subsequent Star Trek series' did either. Oh yes, there were some great episodes but what I saw was some of them just being a modified story line with new characters, loosely based on TOS. To me TOS was the innovation, it would bend your mind around pretty good especially considering when it came out.

T


In terms of storytelling, I don't think anyone can touch Babylon 5, simply because J. Michael Straczynski had the entire series mapped out and scripted BEFORE they even started. B5's level of continuity and storytelling is unparalleled for that reason.

However I definitely agree, no other show, not even any other Star Trek show, can compare to TOS and its ability to make you think. And the third season gets a lot of flack for its bad episodes (Spock's Brain, hippies in space...), but I think the third season also dealt the most with social issues.

"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield," which as I mentioned before pointed out how utterly ridiculous hating someone based on the color of their skin is.

"Day of the Dove," where an alien forces the Enterprise crew and Klingons to fight and kill each other forever, doomed never to die. A good example of the cycle of violence that we can so easily find ourselves caught in.

"The Cloud Minders," where the lower class of people are trapped on the surface of a planet, mining precious ore that kills them, while the upper class literally live in the clouds. Obviously an examination of class warfare.

"Plato's Stepchildren," which as MasterG2KTR pointed out, was the very first interracial kiss ever on television.

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 9:00:22 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		I can throw too, What Of Lazarus ? Paralell universe, the guy at war with his counterpart who was mad and might destroy the universe.

Then Mirror Mirror, where Kirk, Spock, Bones and Scotty were going down to this planet to make a deal to mine dylithium and wound up in the other universe, in which Spock had a beard.

Actually if you remember that was worked into part of DS9. In the other universe Kirk was hated because he had convinced the other Spock to start a peace movement or something like that, and because of that they were all under Cardassian rule, and enslaved.

That Medussian ambassador that drove Spock crazy, the Tholeans. So diverse that I find it hard to believe it was all written by one person.

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RE: Trekkies - 11/18/2008 10:15:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do consider myself a "Trekker" and an old Sci-Fi/Horror Movie buff.  The line about "Then there will be no more Russia" came from a low budget Sci Fi movie "The Brain from Planet Ares" starring John Agar, who has a long list of low budget Sci Fi/Horror films to his credit.
 
Jeffery Hunter did do the orginal pilot "The Cage" but according to Gene, Jefferys'  wife caused so much trouble on the set that he looked elsewhere for a new captain.  Also that was not Jeffery Hunter in "The Menagerie" at least not in the wheel chair, saddly Jeffery Hunter died on May 27 1969.  Oh and Ms. Roddenberry was also in the "The Cage", she was the First Officer.

Star Trek is also credited for the first "Same Sex" kiss.  Doctor Crusher is kissed by a woman who is the new host for one of those worm thing (can't recall what they were called) Also for human/machine sex...remember Tria and Data....

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