RE: the femine whiles problem

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IrishMist -> RE: the femine whiles problem (12/23/2005 6:47:22 PM)
quote: men think only with their dicks and are easily manipulated, even by the female property they supposedly own? Some men yes, but I would agree with the general consensus that these were men who were only out to get laid. quote: Do you really think that statement holds true for all Dom's ;) Absolutly not. But maybe I am talking to the wrong ones lol /shrug Most that I have talked to or met, for them, BDSM and D/s is not sexually driven; sure it may be the outcome, but its not the main focus. They were more concerned with the actual exchange of power. quote: However if your Dominant truely cares for you above his own needs, then he will discipline you, and hold constant his level of discipline no matter how you beg and plead... I would hope so. My late husband never backed down if he thought I deserved a punishment for a wrong doing. And there were many times I cried, begged, and pleaded NOT to be punished. In the end though, it was his love for me that allowed him to follow through with the punishment. quote: now you need Punishment...which is and should be so severe that whatever action on the girls part caused that punishment to occur... she will NEVER think of doing that again. This, I would have to ask what your definition of 'sever' is. My husband was extremely sadistic, our relationship was about him giving pain, and me receiving it. So his punishments tended to be extremely severe to the point that pain, pure and simple, was his only recourse. It was a situation I never wanted to be in, because quite simply...IT HURT, alot. But more than the pain of punishment, was the disappointment in myself that I had caused this to happen, and caused him displeasure. quote: a slave girls father is as much to blame as her Master...socialization begins at a young age and most girls are out of control by their teenage years...and as no one expects more out of them or holds them accountable for their behaviour.. Sorry, but I totally disagree with this. Growing up, we never thought once to disobey my parents. The repurcussions were too high. My father never disciplined us in the sense of using a strap, or spanking. He did not have to. He told us what he expected, and because of our love and respect for him, we did as we were told. Granted, we were teenagers, and we were not perfect. We did some things that disappointed him, and that in itself was punishment enough.

Wildfleurs -> RE: the femine whiles problem (12/23/2005 7:16:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeepWaters this was in response to a journal entry I found thought provoking... men think only with their dicks and are easily manipulated, even by the female property they supposedly own? Do you really think that statement holds true for all Dom's ;) I don’t think that holds true for all doms, but I can say I’ve definitely seen that among dominants. That is one of the things I’ve always really respected my owner for is that I probably would have fucked him on the first date, but I had to wait somewhere over a year before we had sex (and it wasn’t long distance, we saw each other fairly regularly). And even then it wasn’t remotely regular, and it (as well as various sorts of sexual and emotional intimacies) are truly earned privileges that can be withdrawn by him. quote: It depends as Im sure your master ***** will tell you, on what the dominant wants...if his main goal is sex and easy access to it..then yes perhaps a batting eyed slave girl can get away with more. Then are they actually a slave? quote: However if your Dominant truely cares for you above his own needs, then he will discipline you, and hold constant his level of discipline no matter how you beg and plead... If we are talking about master/slave then frankly the master/owner’s needs should be coming first. Then again the slave shouldn’t be acting like a manipulating brat either. Part of my problem with the rant/essay is that it seems to be assuming that a person can’t come to the enslavement actually being well behaved and having a strong internal motivation to do what the dominant wants. C~

classykindasassy -> RE: the femine whiles problem (12/23/2005 7:42:54 PM)
The diversity of viewpoint is amazing and from every walk of the lifestyle - there is no arguing any of it. I simply wish to add something as a point of ponder for any willing or interested to take it on. It would for some address an inquiry into what is effective, given what the dom is out to achieve, and what the sub wants to achieve as well. My ponder point is this: the comparison and contrast of power versus force. One may argue that force is effective. I even find it fun sometimes! However in the energy expense of the Dom, there is a high energetic cost of using force over power in a hugely escalated circumstance. In the element of human mastery, power is more elegant than force and is energetically less costly but requires something more (mentally and in self-mastery) on the part of the Dom employing it. There are those that will say this post is full of shit and too cerebral - and perhaps those that may find something in it that improves or broadens what they think with as Doms. So be it.

addcted2it -> Re: The femine whiles problem (12/24/2005 11:58:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeepWaters this was in response to a journal entry I found thought provoking... Men think only with their dicks and are easily manipulated, even by the female property they supposedly own? Do you really think that statement holds true for all Dom's ;) It has been my observation that men seem to be more sexually-driven than are women. Whether this is mostly because of myth, or the fact that it seems to be OK in our society for me to behave differently than women in sexual matters. I do not know. But in answer to your question, yes I think men are very easily manipulated by women due to their very powerful sexual desires, even a Dom. I think it is very easy to analyze a person's motivation, especially with men where sex is concerned. - addcted2it

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