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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/27/2005 8:37:07 PM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		But Knight, I asked you a question, if it was reversed and the wires were on your C*** and B***, what would you do?

flip or not flip--and you have not responded---

so what would you do?

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/27/2005 10:13:40 PM   
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But Knight, I asked you a question, if it was reversed and the wires were on your C*** and B***, what would you do?

flip or not flip--and you have not responded---

so what would you do?



Sure... I trust my girls with my life.. and then some

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/28/2005 3:36:05 PM   
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Im Dr_SMXtreme, current Master of yourkitten...

put that amount of electricity across the body like that you can put the heart in to ventricular fibrillation, ventricular tachycardia or asystole. either one can be detrimental and lethal a matter of their LIFE or DEATH.

unless you have a defibrillator, IV solutions, BVM's, oxygen and all the drugs you need to work a CARDIAC ARREST..

you might need to add a scalpel with sharp blade, cauterizer, bone saw, spreader, and a manual on doing open heart massage as well. once the heart goes out of regular rhythm, you're not guaranteed to kick it back even with a fully staffed ER and OR, but you've a heck of a lot more chance than with a home defib kit and knowing cpr and first aid. i think the disclaimer for this should be that you don't mess with things that aren't a mind thing unless you are with someone trained and having privliges in a really close by ER and OR.

informed and educated consent.

i wish you well.

Geez, folks. I don't care if you are EMT's or whatever with the most extensive emergency equipment or a heart lung machine right in your house, it can still be fatal. Don't make it sound as if you can put someone in V-fib and pull them out of it if you are trained. It doesn't always work that way. Only use Tens Units or whatever below the waist.

i'm not an emt or a nurse, but i do know a little bit about medical stuff, and my whole point about adding bone saws, retractors, cauterizers, et al, was that nobody outside of an ER and cardiac surgeon possibly can bring you out of abnormal heart rhythms. you don't get priviliges in a hospital unless you are an md with current licensure. just trying to point out that people might wish to think before doing things that can have serious and/or fatal results. (scares heck out of me that they sell home defib kits. gives a wrong impression. i wonder if they save more lives than they lose?)

i have an idea that the other poster was thinking along similar lines, but i can only guess.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/28/2005 4:51:59 PM   
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KoM, this seems contrary to the Dom's duty to protect the submissive from harm.


It's only a d-type's "duty" if said d-type agrees to it in the beginning. It's not an automatic thing.



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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/28/2005 4:56:37 PM   
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Do you push the needles in deeper OR do you make the other girl scream by leaning forward?


Make the other girl scream, natch.

;)

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/28/2005 5:16:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl


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Do you push the needles in deeper OR do you make the other girl scream by leaning forward?


Make the other girl scream, natch.

;)


Noooo way. I'm way out of my league with sadistic fucks like you and your sir.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 12/28/2005 6:00:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross


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Make the other girl scream, natch.

;)


Noooo way. I'm way out of my league with sadistic fucks like you and your sir.


Thanks for the compliment, sweetie :)

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/7/2006 10:14:19 PM   
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If I was a sub...I'd ask for a blindfold and a ciggarette....and kiss my ass goodbye!

ok this works for me lol
Thx for the wise answer that i could not find
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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/7/2006 10:43:28 PM   
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Maybe I will become a domme, so I can finally learn to paddle.


No, no, no… THIS is the best line!

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/7/2006 11:58:31 PM   
Royalton


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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 12:26:13 AM   
Jnj


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Status: offline 		I would probably sob a little and agonize over what I was about to do, freak out and beg, but in the end, I would flip the switch. I'd probably pee as I flipped it, then get so turned on that I actually had the courage to confront a fear my owner wished that I'd mastrubate for awhile.

But I get off on fear play and mindfucks, as I feel they strengthen my trust with my partner, so this scene is right up my alley.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 3:24:42 PM   
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this scene is right up my alley.


(dryly) Uh huh.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 4:22:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		i would prolly sit there and squirm. Sit there and analyze the situation. Try and speak to my Dom. Prolly long the lines of "Are you sure you REALLY want me to do this?" i would prolly have many thoughts flying through my head. The one thought that might stop me from flipping it would be that it might not KILL me, but it might hurt a whole hell of a lot and knowing Master is an extreme sadisit. The one thought that might have me flip it would be remembering our little breathe play and the look in his eyes as he was doing it.

So i would prolly sit there and have to decide on whether it would harm me or hurt me. Knowing the worst it would do is hurt, i'd prolly sit there and figure if i could handle it. Then of course Master thinking i could handle it.

But then alot of the things we do involve fear. Heck most recently my clit piercing. i was absolutely terrified.

i know he wont harm me, but hurt me he will. So it would really come down to, can i defeat and overcome my fear for his sake once again.


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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 7:35:10 PM   
Petruchio


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Status: offline 		Unless I missed it, no one has bothered to mention that the current would cross the heart, possibly stopping it. An old electrical engineer adage is to work with one had in your pocket so that you don't grab live wires with both hands, stopping your heart.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 10:25:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ImpGrrl


quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Do you push the needles in deeper OR do you make the other girl scream by leaning forward?


Make the other girl scream, natch.

;)



Well from the other girl perspective, lean baby lean I can take it just come closer my sweets
lmao
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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/8/2006 11:01:13 PM   
ivone57


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Status: offline 		without reading all 4 pages i am just going to comment on the first page ....

how skilled is this person doing this ... i mean do they realize that if there is any electrical activity that it will cross over the heart and can cause heart palputations or stop the heart all together.....

also, did the person doing the deed ever try it on themself first to make sure it works the way its suppose to ....

even as a mind fuck its not nice in the least .. which could lead to trust being an issue in the long run ....

sure some mind fuck is cool BUT why is called accident -- accidental -- etc.. it could happen .. and why a motel -- shit just do it at home for christ sakes ...

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/9/2006 6:23:32 AM   
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how skilled is this person doing this ...

How many times do you just hop up on the table of a Dom you don't know?

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i mean do they realize that if there is any electrical activity that it will cross over the heart and can cause heart palputations or stop the heart all together.....

Not all electrical activity will cause palputations or stop the heart. And again back to answer one: How many times do you just hop up on the table of a Dom you don't know?

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also, did the person doing the deed ever try it on themself first to make sure it works the way its suppose to ....

It's about trust, dear. Trust in the one that is in control.

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even as a mind fuck its not nice in the least ..

Mindfucks aren't about being nice. If they were they wouldn't be called fucks, they be called mindlove.

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which could lead to trust being an issue in the long run ....

It could lead to trust issues in the short run for the man you call your Dominant. Again, it's about trust in the one who's in control.

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sure some mind fuck is cool BUT why is called accident -- accidental -- etc.. it could happen

So can slipping in the shower but you still take a bath (hopefully)


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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/9/2006 8:04:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		The sinoatrial node of the heart is energized by electrical current and causes contractions. Electricity above the waist has the capability to disrupt your cardiac rhythm into a pattern of premature ventricular contractions which can be fatal. Thus, it is wise not to use a TENS, Violet Wand or whatever, above the waist. There is real danger there, folks. Keep it below the waist.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/9/2006 3:01:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would flip the switch..........I totally and completely trust my Dom so it wouldn't even be an issue with me.

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RE: To Flip or Not to Flip - 1/9/2006 3:13:13 PM   
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How many times do you just hop up on the table of a Dom you don't know?


NEVER ... been in the lifestyle for over 6 years now .. and not once have i taken MY safety for granted just because someone says they are Dom ....

you neglected to answer one question .... and that was ... have you tried it on YOURSELF first ....

i am an owned slave, i trust my Master beyond the beyond BUT that does not mean he is not a human who is prone to making a mistake or having an accident ...

trust has nothing to do with safety ... .if someone is putting me in a situation where i might be killed then you can bet your last breath i am gonna complain ..

and yes .. "mind fucking" IS about fun ... contrary to online Dom's beliefs ....


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