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Language Alert!! - 11/26/2008 3:44:04 PM   
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In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack Obama has broken with a tradition established over the past eightyears through his controversial use of complete sentences, political observers say.
Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama's appearance on CBS'"Sixty Minutes" on Sunday witnessed the president-elect's unorthodoxverbal tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically correct sentences virtually every time he opened his mouth.
But Mr. Obama's decision to use complete sentences in his publicpronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last eight years many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the Universityof Minnesota, some Americans might find it "alienating" to have a President who speaks English as if it were his first language.
"Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are inagreement," says Mr. Logsdon.  "If he keeps it up, he is running the risk of sounding like an elitist."
The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using completesentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, "Okay, subject, predicate, subject predicate - we get it, stop showing off."
The President-elect's stubborn insistence on using completesentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.
"Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a waythat ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Buildercan't really do there, I think needing to do that isn't tapping into what Americans are needing also," she said.

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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/26/2008 4:13:36 PM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/26/2008 4:13:46 PM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 2:12:57 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 2:14:26 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 2:23:12 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 2:28:07 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 2:29:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		*shivers* That's downright creepy GT. A politician who speaks in complete, grammatically correct sentences? How is the American public supposed to understand him?  Now that i think about it, he did the same during the campaign. Surely it must be a plot to get an alien from the planet Zotron elected President of the US and it WORKED! We're all doomed, doomed i say!
 
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 3:40:37 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 3:46:03 AM   
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You betcha!


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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:57:05 AM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 6:43:58 AM   
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quote:

"Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in
agreement," says Mr. Logsdon.  "If he keeps it up, he is running the risk of sounding like an elitist."


The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete
sentences in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, "Okay, subject, predicate, subject predicate - we get it, stop showing off."


The President-elect's stubborn insistence on using complete
sentences has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest critics, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska.


"Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a way
that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder
can't really do there, I think needing to do that isn't tapping into what Americans are needing also," she said.
   Greedy, you're crazy!   And I love that in a person.   

Did anyone else notice that neither Palin nor former pres could say Nuclear?!   Oh my god, I wanted to suggest they pick a term and say " every time I say "bite me" I mean to say nuclear., so I don't have to keep repeating nucular and also.   M

< Message edited by FullfigRIMAAM1 -- 11/27/2008 6:46:50 AM >

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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 1:57:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LumusandtheLady

  Finally, after 8 years of bad English, someone who can speak decently. Now what will we do for laughs? 


Yeah, it's Obama's fatal flaw, at least with Bush there was so much to make fun of. Surely if we look closely there'll be SOMETHING for us to use to amuse ourselves....or we could just make fun of you Lummie.
 
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 3:07:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wait!  Are you saying ther will no longer be "nuke you ler war?"

Oh god, what is the world coming to?!

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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:05:21 PM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:17:25 PM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:20:16 PM   
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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:22:34 PM   
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Happy turkey day, Ms GT :D

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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:30:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		As an English major I have found most of Bush's speech appalling. I like Obama's clear diction and grammar--it makes my heart sing. Yay! It is such a joy to find intelligence in such an eloquent package.

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RE: Language Alert!! - 11/27/2008 4:59:47 PM   
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