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sub4hire -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:29:25 PM)
I don't quite understand. I looked at the ads. I didn't see things as cheap as they normally are. No real reason to wake up at 3am to go be herded into a store. In fact the only store I went to today was Bath and Body works...again no sale. They did have a tote bag I wanted for 15 dollars. We're the customers who broke into the store (committed a crime) taken into custody at least? Common sense would tell a person that if they break into the store to get their stuff, bad things are sure to happen.

BitaTruble -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:36:22 PM)
This whole thing could have been prevented if Walmart had simply roped off the doors so that folks would have formed a line instead of a mob. People are good at being sheeples, they'd have fallen right into line with a simple piece of rope in the proper place. [:(]

calamitysandra -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:40:16 PM)
Another reason for Buy Nothing Day

lovingpet -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:42:36 PM)
I will be honest and say this does not surprise me even if it does sicken me well beyond measure. Yes folks, responsibility to the customers would have prevented this. If the customers knew they prices would be honored the entire span of the sale, then perhaps there would not be such vulgar displays of holiday greed. It was a matter of time and intervention is needed. I worked at Walmart one Christmas (the Christmas of the Furbies no less!) on Black Friday and it was disgusting. This, of course, was some years ago now. How about this. Don't make advertisements that you as a company are not prepared to honor fully in whatever amount and manner necessary for the entire length of the sale. If this means Black Friday ends altogether then I will not shed a single tear. It is ridiculous! Now customers, on the other hand, need not feed into this whole thing. I refused to go shopping at Black Friday sales ever again after my dumbest move to date last year. I left my warm bed at 2:30 am to try to get a gift I otherwise could not afford for my husband. A fist fight had insued about the time I finally got indoors. I was being run over by carts, kicked, elbowed, and head butted as I simply walked through the predesigned path to the electronics department. The item was gone before I had ever made it into the store. I then went to the designated place to wait to exit the store. I grew hot, dizzy, panting, and completely panic striken. The employee said I had to wait to check out despite the fact I was empty handed. I explained that, along with the police already out front tending the the fight, they would have the rescue department there too if I could get out of their store before passing out. She obliged. I got in my car and freaked out. Later I realized I was bruised from head to toe from my ordeal. Was this enough for me??? Oh, no!!! There was one item I had decided I would venture for at our local mall. I was 3 people away from not receiving the item I wanted. Someone cut in line in front of the two women behind me and they were about to throw down when I checked out. I went home and just shook for about two hours. Then I went out and had breakfast. This had all occured before 8 am. All of this over a few bucks and to wrap up a little "holiday cheer"!!!! Never again! My gifts this year are handmade or mail ordered. I have entered a couple of craft stores, but that's about it and will be it for the season. Everything else will be coming to my door! Lesson learned and a Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas to one and all!!! lovingpet who is thankful to not be bruised and in a panic attack on Black Friday this year!

Shiroka -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:50:16 PM)
i really do not know what to think about all of this. i have worked in retial this time of of year so I understand it gets hectic in many ways. I beleive a shoppers safety is also in the shoppers hands.The customers safety should also be considered by the store as well as the employee safety. I've never seen any sense in Black Friday for many years now.I do not see the need to rush out and try to get that "good deal". There are altenatives to going in mass to do shopping such as online shopping. Also, I would like to add it also depends on the Wal Mart in particular,not all of them are open 24 hours a day.I've come accros quite a few that close at 11pm. I hate to hear of anyone being injured or killed in jsut about any situation. I just hope this shows shoppers that get in this kind of rush that safety can and has been proven to be an issue and to keep that in mind.

popeye1250 -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:53:46 PM)
I haven't been in a Walmart store in about 6-8 years since that scandal about them hiring illegal aliens. You have to consider the people who shop at Walmarts, lots of lowlifes. You're pretty much "on your own" in those kind of stores. The low paid employees couldn't give a shit it seems. And I remember dodging all kinds of spills and stuff on the floor. I felt like I needed a shower after comming out of a Walmart. I'd much rather pay $50 yearly dues to Costco and get much better service and better quality stuff than the junk at Walmart. The service you get from Costco employees is outstanding! If you ask them where something is they don't just tell you, they walk you right to it. "Sure, follow me!" And they're always very friendly and smiling. Huge difference! And their stores are CLEAN too. "Hey, where'd you get that shirt?" "Oh, I got it at Wa......Sears."

slaveluci -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 2:57:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes Attractive women....at WalMart??? [:D] You're obviously not attracted to the hot, white-blonde-hair-with-black-roots trailer-park girls that I am[8D]. Down here in AR, the first few days of the month at Wal-Mart are what wet dreams are made of. Sexy southern chicks - yee haw!!!! [image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/insane.gif[/image] luci

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:03:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/bbdp/wal-mart-worker-trampled-to-death/262342 This was completely preventable and Wal Mart has a responsibility to its customers not have something like this happen. It was really only a matter of time and it could have been any big box or department store but something needs be done about it. The easiest remedy would be some type of lottery or here is a novel idea... how about fully stocking the product and give rain checks when you run out! Gimme a freakin break!!!! WalMart couldn't have prevented this any more than you could have prevented a nosebleed if you'd been punched out by a big bruiser.... This wasn't caused by WalMart anymore than lower gas prices could have been foreseen by "Big Oil". There were some assholes (multiple assholes) at a glass door, who wanted to save 28 fucking dollars on a TV set. Some asshole who'd been sitting there since last fucking April to get his sweet deal on a microwave...wanted "in" more than he wanted to be a decent human being. And he fucking stampeded on a decent clerk. Get over the whole "WalMart is evil" bullshit. They offered a great price...and had a decent kid opening the doors....and a PARADE of ASSHOLES decided they wanted that 50 inch TV more than they wanted that kid to live. It's that simple (and sure as FUCK ain't WalMart's fault).

SageFemmexx -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:11:06 PM)
I was at Walmart Wednesday morning and the old people in wheelchairs were running one another over and yelling in the grocery aisles. I was astonished--I ticked off my list and got the hell out of there, good grief. The closer we get to the holidays, the less common decency there seems to be. Dying for "stuff" is not my idea of a good death. Sage.

Irishknight -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:12:56 PM)
WalMart does have a small share of the responsibility but they are the victim in this case. One of their people was trampled by cattle in people's clothing. There are steps that could have been taken but they erred on believing people would not trample a man to death for cheap crap. That is their big mistake. The other 99% of the blame goes to the rabid assholes who ran the man over. I hope several of them end up being sent to jail to deliver a message that this shit needs to stop. I truly doubt it will since society has gotten away from us actually being responsible for what we do.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:18:26 PM)
Actually some things were very cheap, they had a 50 to70 dollar microwave for 25 dollars, course by the time I knew this they were all sold out. And Macy's is selling a 3 karat diamond 1,335 dollar ring for 400 dollars. I certainly would get up and go in at 5 am for that, if I was in the market for a diamond wedding ring. Big screen flat screen plasma tv's 42 inches was 500 dollars off, so yeah there's things I would find worthwhile of getting up veeery early for, if I needed the things that were on sale. I also went to catherines and big and tall and they were having give away prices. A 75 dollar skirt cost 50, and then a few days before that there was a buiy one get one free sale. Big and tall is having a buy one get one free, and jeans that were normally 50 dollars were on sale for 39. Kinda pissed me off a bit infact, cause like a week before the sale I had just payed 50 bucks for the same jeans for my honey, that are now 39.99. Barns and nobles had sales too. All the major stores here like sears and gotshalks and k mart and target are having sales too. quote: ORIGINAL: sub4hire I don't quite understand. I looked at the ads. I didn't see things as cheap as they normally are. No real reason to wake up at 3am to go be herded into a store. In fact the only store I went to today was Bath and Body works...again no sale. They did have a tote bag I wanted for 15 dollars.

stella41b -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:23:23 PM)
This is crazy.. really.. I would sort this problem out once and for all.. I would put fences across the entry to the store and make it a long corridor to the bargains and create a sort of a 'steeplechase'.. Those who had been queuing all night would be given names, I would have a commentator giving a running commentary and film the whole thing. It would be like the 'Grand National' that famous steeplechase meeting at Aintree in the UK. People could place bets on various shoppers and it could raise money for charity.. For example... And here at Walmart Cleveland Ohio on the Black Friday Human Steeplechase the shoppers are just lining up waiting for the doors to open and the starting gun... and... THEY'RE OFF... And in through the doors we have .. we have we have Madame Two Bags closely followed by Slaphead Neighbour and coming up the rear is Redneck Daddy... and then Argie Bargie and A Bit Of Pushing, and then Kicking and Punching.. and coming up to the first two hundred yards we have Slaphead Neighbour, Kicking and Punching Redneck Daddy and in comes Madame Two Bags and also MegaThighs Momma and somewhere in there I think I can make out A Bit Of Slap And Tickle together with Pushing And Shoving up to the third fence now it's still Slaphead Neighbour, Pushing And Shoving, Redneck Daddy level with MegaThighs Momma and Argie Bargie, and Madame Two Bags with Slap and Tickle Four hundred yard and ten fences to go it's.... There could even be some sort of obstacle course and a television crew and reality TV [interested companies please contact my agent for more details] But joking aside.. all it takes is a bit of common sense.. If I were the owner of Walmart I would still have the cheap deals but I would make it 'HOME DELIVERY ONLY' or even 'ONLINE PURCHASES ONLY' '

elegantalexis -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:23:51 PM)
You shop at the hardware section for toys too? That is how I found my rope, the nipple clamps...[:D]

tkenslve -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:28:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 I haven't been in a Walmart store in about 6-8 years since that scandal about them hiring illegal aliens. You have to consider the people who shop at Walmarts, lots of lowlifes. You're pretty much "on your own" in those kind of stores. The low paid employees couldn't give a shit it seems. And I remember dodging all kinds of spills and stuff on the floor. I felt like I needed a shower after comming out of a Walmart. I'd much rather pay $50 yearly dues to Costco and get much better service and better quality stuff than the junk at Walmart. The service you get from Costco employees is outstanding! If you ask them where something is they don't just tell you, they walk you right to it. "Sure, follow me!" And they're always very friendly and smiling. Huge difference! And their stores are CLEAN too. "Hey, where'd you get that shirt?" "Oh, I got it at Wa......Sears." As one of those 'lowlifes" who LOVES her Walmart, i will happily take the other lowlifes, red necks and inbred's over having to deal with someone like you. We thank you for putting us down and letting us know how stupid we are.

Usako -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:32:17 PM)
"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,"' she said. "They kept shopping." Not shocking at all. Perhaps this "Black Friday" tradition should just be ended. Maybe extend the sales to the whole weekend to avoid the masses...I don't know. They might already do that. I don't shop the day after Thanksgiving so at least I'd never have to worry about it. Amazing what people will do for a sale.

ThatDaveGuy69 -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:34:53 PM)
IMHO, Walmart bares complete responsibility for this tragedy. If for no other reason than this is not the 1st time this sort of incident has happened. We hear about this all the time. When something is in high demand with limited supply, sheeple go nuts! Some retailers plan for this - Best Buy is a pretty good example. I recall when the Wii came out. And the PS3. Near riots in some places! So Walmart can't claim ignorance. And since they could have reasonably expected a mob scene they should have done something to manage the crowd. A rope line, a ticketing system, a couple of cops, any of these would have gone a long way to prevent this. And for those of you who don't think it was Walmart's fault: I recommend you follow the story and the lawsuit that is probably already being filed. Walmart will probably settle with as little publicity as possible. Happy Thanksgiving, indeed. ~Dave

elegantalexis -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:35:45 PM)
Same here. I value my sleep a lot more than getting a new coat for $8 and a chance for a $300 laptop. I also used to be a door greeter for Walmart. It is not all sunshine and standing on concrete is not healthy for people with arthitis.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:36:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: variation30 hm. so Wal-Mart has a responsibility to its customers not to have its customers stampede and kill one of their employees. hm... They absoulutely do. They created this. They did not have the staff, the proper barriers or the proper operating procedures in place to prevent this. Had they, this could have easily been prevented. This is actionable and the man's family will no doubt see a huge settlement. But next year, you can bet... Wal Mart will have procedures in place to make sure this does not happen again. As I said, it could have been any of the big box or department stores it just so happen to be a Wal Mart.

celticlord2112 -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:37:46 PM)
quote: But next year, you can bet... Wal Mart will have procedures in place to make sure this does not happen again. You can bet.....you can lose, too.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Black Friday Death at Wal-Mart (11/28/2008 3:40:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FlamingRedhead WTF??? Why should Wal-Mart be responsible? I think it's absurd to expect a store to need police in full riot gear for a sale on TVs and vacuum cleaners. The easiest remedy would be conducting business as usual with no ridiculous "sale" items that you can get all year long if you choose to shop around since people seem to have lost all their common sense and decency. I LOVE shopping. However, I will never camp out in front of a store for any reason. I have never jumped out of bed at the crack of dawn to go shopping. I don't go shopping the day after Thanksgiving. In fact, this is the absolute worst time of year to shop. I find the behavior of everyone incredibly rude and annoying. They didn't need police with riot gear, just simple common sense measures, like extra staff and proper line barriers would have prevented this.

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