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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 1:58:38 PM   
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More likely, they will tell you that there are rules for being a member of this system. You want to use this system, you play by the rules set forth by the mods/admins. This system is *not* any governing body for the "lifestyle." These system rules have nothing to do with your life once you step away from the keyboard so how could they possibly have anything to do with the "rules of the lifestyle?"

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dont change the subject...there are far too many here telling ME i aint part of this friggen lifestyle just coz i aint into sex or s/m or anything else.
wake up stef
there ARE norm rules.

most ... people on here have this idea everyone has-to play it THEIR way or they are fake.
watch the posts stef.
i just got one from a mod telling ME i am wrong for telling someone to blow it out their other end but its perfectly friggen okay for the broad to insult ME.........
there ARE rules stef
just coz some broad calls herslef domme..the mods kiss her butt
but "I" am not entitled to the same privilege on posts?????
bull
and YOU KNOW IT!

stef there are far far too many sets of rules in this lifestyle
most are sheep herded thoughtlines
when you are like me and go outside the envelope everyone has a fit, it is WRONG to be a wolf among the sheep..here and r/t.
you are EXPECTED to back off and i wont do it.


i.e.
'a' male dom...mouths off to 'a' female domme...SHE is expected to stand up for herself...and if HER boy steps in..it is WRONG!
bull
ANYONE gets in MY Ms' face..ya best bet i am gonna take the dude out in one shot...
he aint getting up.

there ARE rules stef.

for THAT matter...if anyone comes here,..and started shooting his mouth off about Her OR Her vanilla hubby..i'm takin the dude out...and throwin him in the snow bank outside...
it is WRONG to do but i aint lettin no one slide...

its against the rules...stef...but i'll do it.


take care girl



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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 4:37:44 PM   
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dont change the subject...there are far too many here telling ME i aint part of this friggen lifestyle just coz i aint into sex or s/m or anything else.
wake up stef
there ARE norm rules.

I'm not changing the subject. You're foaming at the mouth about how all these people on a website are telling you you're not part of the "lifestyle," which I have to admit, I haven't seen. The rules on this system and the opinions of the people here evaporate the moment you step away from the keyboard. They have nothing to do with your day to day life or any "lifestyle."

This system is not the "lifestyle," it's just a website. The rules here have NOTHING to do with your life.

quote:

most ... people on here have this idea everyone has-to play it THEIR way or they are fake.
watch the posts stef.

That's bullshit. I've been here a while and the people who act that way are a miniscule minority and usually don't last here very long. Regardless, if some complete stranger on a website were to tell you that they thought you were a fake, why would you even care what they think? Ignore them and live your life.

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i just got one from a mod telling ME i am wrong for telling someone to blow it out their other end but its perfectly friggen okay for the broad to insult ME.........
there ARE rules stef

Once again, the rules of this system have nothing to do with any bearing on the original discussion. If you want to rant about how you're being mistreated by the evil mods, start another thread.

quote:

just coz some broad calls herslef domme..the mods kiss her butt
but "I" am not entitled to the same privilege on posts?????
bull
and YOU KNOW IT!

See above answer. I'm not seeing any of this butt kissing you're talking about but it might just be because I'm not looking for it.

quote:

stef there are far far too many sets of rules in this lifestyle
most are sheep herded thoughtlines
when you are like me and go outside the envelope everyone has a fit, it is WRONG to be a wolf among the sheep..here and r/t.
you are EXPECTED to back off and i wont do it.

There is no envelope to go outside of. There are so many different non-vanilla flavors out there that no one set of rules could ever possibly cover them all. You've chosen a path that some people might have a hard time understanding, but I have never seen anyone tell you that path was wrong. They might tell you that some of the things you say are wrong, or that some of your conclusions are but that's not remotely the same thing.

What, if anything at all, do these mythical "rules of the lifestyle" have to do with any of that?

~stef

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 4:38:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MHOO314
My questions are:
What drives you the most?
The service you provide?
The knowledge that you are pleasing a Master/Mistress?
Your quality of work?
The actual work?
What do you look for from them as a sign that you are doing well?


What drives me is the personal knowledge that I am doing a good job - which is validated,and given meaning, by the satisfaction that I give to Her. What I do doesn't matter - that I ultimately please Her is what matters.

Signs? A smile, a kind word. Compliments go far. As long as I know that I have pleased, because that is what counts.

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 7:05:37 PM   
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Darn.......how do I get a "Service only submissive". I would love to have one to direct, feed, cherish. He/she could do my housework while we are working. Laundry. Lawn work. Cooking. Cleaning! Geez....what a gift they give of themselves!

Where do I find another like you Veronica?

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 7:24:35 PM   
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Hey veronica,

Master is deployed again...and this girl is starting an MBA program...so when you finish up over there could you come over here?

snickering...

i think you're fabulous.

sabrina King

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 8:34:19 PM   
veronicaofML


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What, if anything at all, do these mythical "rules of the lifestyle" have to do with any of that?

~stef

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stef.......for christ jesus....almighty...i have tried to explain it the friggen best i can.
if ya can't grab it..it aint my doing.

just friggen damned forget it.
evidently no matter what i damned well say you are gonna call me a liar..
you sound like my 3rd wife
no matter what i said she didnt understand shit.

i cant believe i have been talking til my face is blue and ya still dont see.
evidently my english aint yours.

i know damned well there people here...that have 2 sets of rules
one for them and one for everyone else.
same damned thing r/t

but you aint gonna believe a damn word i say.
piss on it.


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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 8:37:54 PM   
veronicaofML


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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
bottom in wa

sunshine 119


i'll merely say thanks
it IS appreciated

onceburned?
how are thiose talks going ya last spoke about?
how's iowa bro?
i'm luv'n wisconsin

and i'm going to bed
i'm too tired right now to argue anymore tonight...

tomorrow another day to restart until i get stef to understand me


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RE: Service only submissives - 12/27/2005 11:08:01 PM   
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Nice selective reply.

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

stef.......for christ jesus....almighty...i have tried to explain it the friggen best i can.
if ya can't grab it..it aint my doing.

You can't discern the difference between the rules of a website and some supposed "rules of the lifestyle" and it's not your doing? You haven't explained, you've ranted with no justification. They are not synonymous.

quote:

just friggen damned forget it.
evidently no matter what i damned well say you are gonna call me a liar..

When have I ever called you a liar?

quote:

you sound like my 3rd wife
no matter what i said she didnt understand shit.

It's no small wonder. Take a moment and think about why that might be? The phrase "The common factor in all your failed relationships is you" comes to mind.

quote:

i cant believe i have been talking til my face is blue and ya still dont see.
evidently my english aint yours.

Perhaps It might help if you gave some examples of these "lifestyle rules" you keep bringing up instead of yelling, stamping your feet and expecting everyone to sping to your defense. You tell of all these great injustices but you never "put up" as you so eloquently put it in a previous post. How about it?

quote:

i know damned well there people here...that have 2 sets of rules
one for them and one for everyone else.
same damned thing r/t

Then it should be trivial for you to provide some examples.

quote:

but you aint gonna believe a damn word i say.
piss on it.

Not without some corroboration aside from your vehement protestations, sorry. Perhaps when you set aside the mantle of CollarMe's Victim in Residence and instead give some examples, it'll be possible to view your claims as something more than childish ranting.

~stef

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 12:47:26 AM   
veronicaofML


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than childish ranting.

~stef
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cute.
so much for adult converstion then huh?

now you even sound my ex wives..
must be a typical female thing.

gawd i am so gald not to be mixed up with any broads right now.
the whole bunch of ya dont make sense...

stand by broad...i'll come yup with something for ya soon enough..
christ holy friggen jesus...the shit i gotta put up with.


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RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 2:36:35 AM   
veronicaofML


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STEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://members.aol.com/dsdiary/128slaverules.html

start here'''

i'll get ya more


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Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 5:21:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

STEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://members.aol.com/dsdiary/128slaverules.html

start here'''

i'll get ya more



Oh, God, that garbage surfaces again.

One of the neat things about what we do is that there really aren't any "rules" beyond obtaining consent. Of course, anyone can set up a website and preach things like "alien souls with amnesia are causing all the trouble in the world." It doesn't prove anything more than delusion doesn't interfere with the ability to type.





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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 6:54:03 AM   
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Of course, anyone can set up a website and preach things like "alien souls with amnesia are causing all the trouble in the world."

Uh huh. But veronica apparently likes reading such stuff, so here is another page chock full of fun facts, such as "JEHOVAH" Was TRIBE of RENEGADE SPACE CANNIBALS !

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RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 7:01:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML
onceburned?
how are thiose talks going ya last spoke about?


I must have given the wrong impression. I haven't been in discussions (with intent to serve) since March. My health has gone into a tailspin and I can not provide reliable service.

quote:

how's iowa bro?


Not as warm as I would like it to be!

quote:

i'm luv'n wisconsin


Yes, that actually comes through in your messages here. What a difference the right woman makes, huh? I am happy that you two got together.

quote:

tomorrow another day to restart until i get stef to understand me


Sometimes people just can't come to agreement. It happens all the time in politics and "irreconcilable differences" are a staple of divorces. Maybe you should just agree to disagree with Stef.

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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 7:04:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: happypervert
"JEHOVAH" Was TRIBE of RENEGADE SPACE CANNIBALS ! [/link]


Isn't that a variation on Intelligent Design theory?

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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 9:07:24 AM   
veronicaofML


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quote:

ORIGINAL: happypervert

quote:

Of course, anyone can set up a website and preach things like "alien souls with amnesia are causing all the trouble in the world."

Uh huh. But veronica apparently likes reading such stuff, so here is another page chock full of fun facts, such as "JEHOVAH" Was TRIBE of RENEGADE SPACE CANNIBALS !

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now why sam hell would an atheist like me wanna read religious shit?
god only exists in man's mind...and only for those that dont have enough self will to get the hell outta bed...and stand on their own 2 feet...
far far too many weak willed people rely on myth...when they should rely on facts..
there are no gods...there is no after life...when ya die you are worm bait...

thats MY take on it...at least it's one thing atheists and jews have in common...no afterlife.
man is just another animal...no different than the 4 legged ones.

jehovah smovah...argh!
====


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RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 9:09:38 AM   
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I must have given the wrong impression. I haven't been in discussions (with intent to serve) since March. My health has gone into a tailspin and I can not provide reliable service.
onceburned
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sorry. i didnt realize you weren't doing so hot.
hope ya get better.........YOU deserve a good life bro.


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RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 9:17:56 AM   
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christ holy friggen jesus...the shit i gotta put up with.

Poor little wolfie. Isn't it a pain when people ask you to try and prove the bunk that you spew?

Here are a couple of the statements you have made during this thread:

- there are far too many here telling ME i aint part of this friggen lifestyle just coz i aint into sex or s/m or anything else.

- most ... people on here have this idea everyone has-to play it THEIR way or they are fake.

How about a couple of examples?

quote:


http://members.aol.com/dsdiary/128slaverules.html

start here'''

i'll get ya more

Oh, that's a hoot. Do you think anyone (aside from JK that is) takes those seriously? Those farcical rules are JK's pipe dream for his own personal slaves and they were soundly ridiculed when he proposed them. If you listen closely, you can still hear echoes of the laughter from when he first posted that list to ASB. You can scour the web and you'll find all kinds of 'rules' posted, and they only mean anything to the person who posted/created the list. They are hardly "the rules of this lifestyle" because there AREN'T ANY.

~stef

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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 9:22:42 AM   
veronicaofML


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One of the neat things about what we do is that there really aren't any "rules" beyond obtaining consent.
============

i know i found somewhere.......and cant find it right now dammit...there was 'a' site..that stated
to be a real sub/slave..these are the rules
to be a real dominant..these are the rules of d/s

i found it a long time ago...
it sets up a standard...so that if ya dont measure up..people know you are playing games.

just like my 1st Ms told me...
1st rule is She is always right
2nd rule is She never makes mistakes,...She is a Pro and has seen it all in 30 yrs...
3rd rule is slaves cannot change #1 and #2
4th rule is dont speak unless spoken to
5th rule is never ever be out of ear-shot...and never ever leave Her sight w/o asking
6th rule is...and this is the same here..at present..never ever leave the property w/o permission...i am not allowed to go anywhere w/o advance notice. and never w/o Her, except in extreme cases when She is not here.

one thing i was told...if any sub/slave cannot be there for hands on 24/7...they are not real d/s people. no one can help a domme online..you have to be there in person to serve...

these are just some of what "I" was taught.
i was broke in..by a Pro...right off the street.
just like...
sex is not allowed at any time.
slaves sleep on the floor...in a separate room.
slaves are not allowed ANY money.
there will be NO romantic notions. She has a hubby...the 1st had Her 1st boy there.


take care



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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 9:53:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML


One of the neat things about what we do is that there really aren't any "rules" beyond obtaining consent.
============

i know i found somewhere.......and cant find it right now dammit...there was 'a' site..that stated
to be a real sub/slave..these are the rules
to be a real dominant..these are the rules of d/s

i found it a long time ago...
it sets up a standard...so that if ya dont measure up..people know you are playing games.

just like my 1st Ms told me...
1st rule is She is always right
2nd rule is She never makes mistakes,...She is a Pro and has seen it all in 30 yrs...
3rd rule is slaves cannot change #1 and #2
4th rule is dont speak unless spoken to
5th rule is never ever be out of ear-shot...and never ever leave Her sight w/o asking
6th rule is...and this is the same here..at present..never ever leave the property w/o permission...i am not allowed to go anywhere w/o advance notice. and never w/o Her, except in extreme cases when She is not here.

one thing i was told...if any sub/slave cannot be there for hands on 24/7...they are not real d/s people. no one can help a domme online..you have to be there in person to serve...

these are just some of what "I" was taught.
i was broke in..by a Pro...right off the street.
just like...
sex is not allowed at any time.
slaves sleep on the floor...in a separate room.
slaves are not allowed ANY money.
there will be NO romantic notions. She has a hubby...the 1st had Her 1st boy there.


take care




What does one random web site have to do with the "rules" for all of BDSM? How does it make that author an authority? Why should we believe him/her?

What if I go set up a site right now with a list of rules for BDSM relationships. Will those become the new rules and the other site won't matter any more?

Akasha

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RE: Slave rules was RE: Service only submissives - 12/28/2005 10:37:33 AM   
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What if I go set up a site right now with a list of rules for BDSM relationships. Will those become the new rules and the other site won't matter any more?

Akasha

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from what i have seen of You..i thought You already did THAT.
You have a shitload of ..what a male is . is not, supposed to do...
i thought You WERE an authority...? or so i thought i heard You claim...


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