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OrionTheWolf -> RE: Somalia - another Bush legacy (12/4/2008 9:34:29 AM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
I see no problem with imposing our will on others - I just wish we would be honest one way or the other.
It would be one way or the other, depending upon the situation.
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Either fess up to being the biggest bastards on the planet and treating all ruthlessly - or behave ethically according to our stated high ideals in all this.
First you would need to determine what the biggest bastard on the planet means, rather than just be vague. You would also need to determine what the high ideals are that you are speaking of.
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If the former we must ready ourselves for the extermination of the Palestinians, if the latter we must get ready to tell Israel to behave itself. If the former we should drop a neutron bomb on Somalia forthwith, if the latter we have no business meddling in their internal affairs.
Why would we have to do that? There is nothing wrong with double standards, in my opinion. I do agree that more pressure needs to be placed on Israel for some of the things it is doing, but they are doing it in response to an action, just like the Palestinians are doing it in response to an action. That situation is a cycle that has been going on for many decades, and involves more than just the Palestinians and Israel.
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We cant expect to behave like bastards when it suits and then when the consequences come back our way scream terrorism and look to the higher moral ground and portray ourselves as martyrs to the highest ethics wronged by evil.
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Sure we can, just not in the way we have been doing it. I believe in first diplomacy, and when it breaks down an assessment made as to whether military force is needed. Once it is determined that it is needed, then the last ditch diplomacy of" stop your shit or we attack" should be offered.
If you really want to do something about Somalia, then the International community needs to either be involved collectively, or stay the fuck out collectively. Threat of economic and military action against countries that go against this, and the resolve to use it would be neccesary.
Personally I would like to see the US pull out of all military and economic engagements around the globe. This includes relief efforts as well as military bases. If the world truely starts going to shit, then let it. Warn everyone ahead of time that if they involve or attack us, that we will retaliate with complete and utter ruthlessness.
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