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living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 10:25:31 PM   
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hmm...a few things i have been thinking about for a long time. i hope to get others to think about these things too and maybe shed some lite on why it is not talked about anywhere that i have seen. yes, that's right folks my mind has been running again and i just can't get these two topics out of my mind. it ya get upset oh well...i'm good at upseting and surprising people. ready for this?

my first and longest thought, perhaps even want (?) runs along the lines of a poly house but not really. that will make sense to you as you read this. how come it is okay for a Dom M or F to have multipul subs but a sub cannot have multipul Doms? if a Dom needs many subs to care for them and keep them happy then why can't  a sub serve as the single in a house of Doms? if it is what keeps the subbie happy then i say do it. and for those Doms and subs who disagree, i don't care but please post your thoughts. also, is there anyone on this site that does do that? i'm not meaning those that rent or share their subbies with others. i mean a really multi-Dom house.
it is something that has been eating away at me. yes, it is something i would like to experiance, true i will be sexually worn out, physically exhausted and probly really confussed for a time but i think it might be a great challenge for even the most robotic brainwashed slaves... a challenge that i am very willing to under go and very ready to prove that this can work.
i know this is odd coming from someone that is against multi-sub homes. i guess that is just because i am jealous and think i require a lot of attention. which i guess i do, or so i have been told.

my other idea... are there maso Masters and sado slaves? if so, which again i'm sure there is, why isn't this ever touched upon? i for one get a rise out of hitting men 'nilla or life. well, that is if it is something that want or a dare to try and hurt them because they have such high pain thresh holds. i have debunked a few people that say that can deal with whatever i could give them. then again i have only done it to two. but i did enjoy it. it is not something i could do everyday UNLESS it was required because my owner liked it either because they are into to recieving end or because they know that i have worked hard to make them happy, even when i've been angry at them or upset and kept serveing the best i could.
i like to take my frusterations out on the back or belly of a man. not because i truely want to hurt people by any measure, but it just feels good. i am far from a fighter, at least i'd like to think. maybe it is because i was always the one in school getting beat on and screwed with. i don't know.
anywho, enough about me...please let's talk about this stuff. i just want to know if anyone ever thinks about these two things. if you live like either or both of the things listed but wish to keep it private, them message me here and we can talk.
much love, thanks, and respect to all ~mara~
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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 10:29:49 PM   
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For any relationship you seek, or any relationship dynamic you can imagine, I can almost say with certainty it is out there. There are dominant masos and submissive sadists. There is a broad interest and spectrum of things and people and their desires. 

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 10:50:41 PM   
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i know that but i guess one of the main things i am asking here is why people don't talk about the things that are not the norm for "us". and why don't more Doms agree to such a house where one sub serves many? and why maso Masters do ever admit to this when asked. well i'm sure some do to the right people. but like i said. i'm just wondering.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 10:55:00 PM   
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why people don't talk about the things that are not the norm for "us".

Because the answer is a tautology.


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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 11:13:11 PM   
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Who says you can't have 3 masters. But 3 masters cannot totally master the same woman at the same time. 3 People are lying, maybe 4. But you can totally master as many women as your capable of .

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 11:22:12 PM   
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my first and longest thought, perhaps even want (?) runs along the lines of a poly house but not really. that will make sense to you as you read this. how come it is okay for a Dom M or F to have multipul subs but a sub cannot have multipul Doms? if a Dom needs many subs to care for them and keep them happy then why can't  a sub serve as the single in a house of Doms? if it is what keeps the subbie happy then i say do it. and for those Doms and subs who disagree, i don't care but please post your thoughts. also, is there anyone on this site that does do that? i'm not meaning those that rent or share their subbies with others. i mean a really multi-Dom house.


I don't understand why you say this is not really a poly house.  There are as many different relationship dynamics for poly as there are for D/s relationships.  At least one example of this is not that rare.  There are a good number of dominant couples who have subs or slaves that answer to both of them.  I believe it is perfectly workable for a sub to have multipul dominants as long as an agreement for one problem is addressed in advance - what is the sub to do if given contridictory instructions from different dominants?  It could be a heirarchy that ranks the dominants or simply a rules that the sub is to obey whatever instruction was given first and politely explain to the other dominants why their instruction is not being acted upon.


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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 11:31:10 PM   
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how come it is okay for a Dom M or F to have multipul subs but a sub cannot have multipul Doms?

Who says they can't?
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  if a Dom needs many subs to care for them and keep them happy then why can't  a sub serve as the single in a house of Doms?

Who says they can't?
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  and for those Doms and subs who disagree, i don't care but please post your thoughts

If you don't care, why would you want to know what our/their thoughts are?
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  are there maso Masters and sado slaves?

Yeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss
I happen to know of quite a few right here on this message board
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  why isn't this ever touched upon?

Please explain what you mean by this
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  i just want to know if anyone ever thinks about these two things.

No reason to think about them when reality is so much better


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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/4/2008 11:58:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: badgirlmara
sado slaves?


Hewwo :3

I love hitting people. It's a treat. I especially like it when they're not masochists :D spurs me right along.

I wouldn't really ever want to hit someone who I identified as MY dominant, though... and I really don't ever want to be anyone's dominant (even in a 'switch' scenario).

So there you have it, a sadistic Submissive (though I'm wildly masochistic too, I have to point out)


On the first note, I'm not really 'in' to poly-amory much, and I know I wouldn't want to submit to a dominant (even if it IS only my limited submission) if he wasn't a)my ONLY relationship and b)known for a while.

That said, I have no qualms about playing (sexually or otherwise) with others unless my partner does.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 1:25:56 AM   
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If you don't care, why would you want to know what our/their thoughts are?
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  are there maso Masters and sado slaves?

Yeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss
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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 1:53:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: badgirlmara

hmm...a few things i have been thinking about for a long time. i hope to get others to think about these things too and maybe shed some lite on why it is not talked about anywhere that i have seen. yes, that's right folks my mind has been running again and i just can't get these two topics out of my mind. it ya get upset oh well...i'm good at upseting and surprising people. ready for this?


Welcome to the forums.  To answer your 'thought' on the below topics - You just have to learn how to work the search function here.  These topics have been discussed pretty often.

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my first and longest thought, perhaps even want (?) runs along the lines of a poly house but not really. that will make sense to you as you read this. how come it is okay for a Dom M or F to have multipul subs but a sub cannot have multipul Doms?


It's totally cool.  Lots of people do it/have them.  OK, it might be a minority but it's not an altogether strange concept.
 
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if a Dom needs many subs to care for them and keep them happy then why can't  a sub serve as the single in a house of Doms?


I never see it as a 'I they can do it so should I be able to'.  It's more a case of - this is what I want so I find people compatable.

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if it is what keeps the subbie happy then i say do it. and for those Doms and subs who disagree, i don't care but please post your thoughts.


We are all for everyone in a relationship getting the best from each other and everything else.

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also, is there anyone on this site that does do that? i'm not meaning those that rent or share their subbies with others. i mean a really multi-Dom house.


Yes there are.

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it is something that has been eating away at me. yes, it is something i would like to experiance, true i will be sexually worn out, physically exhausted and probly really confussed for a time but i think it might be a great challenge for even the most robotic brainwashed slaves... a challenge that i am very willing to under go and very ready to prove that this can work.


Sexually worn out only if that is the only kind of service you can offer.  Service doesn't = submission - that is a big thing to realise.  But even if it did, not all households or dominants require sexual service.  Again, it is simply down to compatability.  You want to be used sexually by multiple dominants, go for it!  If you do end up in a state of 'confussion' then you need to evaluate whether you are communicating properly and clearly and whether the confusion is healthy or you.  As long as our gaining good support and growing, it all rocks.

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i know this is odd coming from someone that is against multi-sub homes. i guess that is just because i am jealous and think i require a lot of attention. which i guess i do, or so i have been told.


Jealousy isn't necessarily a bad thing unless it has a negative impact on your growth and the growth of the relationship or anyone else.  It's how you handle jealousy that matters.

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my other idea... are there maso Masters and sado slaves?


Yes there are.  Hello.
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if so, which again i'm sure there is, why isn't this ever touched upon?

It is touched on quite often.  I have plenty of experience of it, so maybe it is just the people you know and the places you visit?  Consider broadening your contacts maybe?
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i for one get a rise out of hitting men 'nilla or life. well, that is if it is something that want or a dare to try and hurt them because they have such high pain thresh holds. i have debunked a few people that say that can deal with whatever i could give them. then again i have only done it to two. but i did enjoy it. it is not something i could do everyday UNLESS it was required because my owner liked it either because they are into to recieving end or because they know that i have worked hard to make them happy, even when i've been angry at them or upset and kept serveing the best i could.


I don't get a rise out of hitting people.  I get aroused by causing pain to people who enjoy it or who want to experience pain.  For me it isn't about debunking their thoughts, it is about causing the pain.

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i like to take my frusterations out on the back or belly of a man. not because i truely want to hurt people by any measure, but it just feels good.


Personally, this concerns me - but it could just be the way you have typed it along with the typos. It feels good and it turns you on or because you take out frustrations and it turns you on?  Personally, I wouldn't go near a person if I was pissed off or taking it out on a person.  I am allowed to channel it through a person, but that is a different action and requires being in control of your actions.

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 i am far from a fighter, at least i'd like to think. maybe it is because i was always the one in school getting beat on and screwed with. i don't know.
anywho, enough about me...please let's talk about this stuff. i just want to know if anyone ever thinks about these two things. if you live like either or both of the things listed but wish to keep it private, them message me here and we can talk.
much love, thanks, and respect to all ~mara~


From you postings, you have a very negative view, which I can't comprehend because I tend to be pretty upbeat.  You are even pessimistic about your responses.  Just try to remember that people who participate in BDSM are people from the world in general and therefore have the same foibles, judgements and yumminess that are in the whole world.  BDSM peeps are any deeper, aren't more understanding and are just as diverse as human beings are in general.
 
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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 4:09:34 AM   
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wow! thanks everyone who responded so far. i don't get out to munchs anymore so i really don't ask any body questions much.
and i do care what you have to say, just don't care if anybody gets upset or disagrees.

the last time i hit a guy, he cried and i laughed because he said he could not feel pain. then when he stopped crying a cussing i told him he was a p*ssy and to get out.

the reason i was asking about the male Dom house is because it is a fantasy of mine that i am very seriously thinking about trying. yes, i know that there is more to 'service' than just sex and pain. heck, i'm chatting on yahoo and the Dom i'm talking to is interested i'm me enertaining him with my words and creative humor. i have a way of getting peoples attention wheather good or bad. yes, i guess i am an attetion whore. that is why i could never share with another female or bi-sexual male.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 5:00:07 AM   
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If every Dom had his way, I'd betcha' most would nominate themselves as king of the world and own all the lovely lasses as their own personal slave harem....

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 5:16:59 AM   
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Who says you can't have 3 masters. But 3 masters cannot totally master the same woman at the same time. 3 People are lying, maybe 4. But you can totally master as many women as your capable of .



He is right! i actually tried to do this thing where i had an Dom and my Master... let me just tell you i stressed myself out, on side i had my Dom tell me that i was putting someone before him and on the other side i had my Master telling me his It became a huge issue for me cause i wanted to please them both, but i was finding myself lacking in some areas. Eventually, i had to make a choice distroy my sanaty or leave one or the other! *sigh* hard times... never again!

Then again if it is a Dom/me household then i don't see why a submissive would not be able to because the Dom/mes come to an agreement, and see when they sub/slave is being used.

Side note, a person can date multi people.. i don't care who you are you can do it. Just make sure that all parties know so it doesn't end badly.

Then again you probably dont care much for this post but thats the questions i focused on cause everyone else answered the rest =)

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 5:40:49 AM   
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honestly, it's an ego thing or a man thing i think!  now there are a few relationships that i know of where the dom and the sub either own or are owned by more than one, but it's very, very rare!  guys want to be able to shove their dick in any ole pussy they want, but they want us girls to keep our legs closed and become the frigid woman until they choose to give us what we need...it ain't right i'm telling you, and i refuse to play into that game!  you want me to be soley monogomous to you, then you get what you give!

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 6:44:10 AM   
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In my family we have a  Dom and  a Domme. So in our case a sub would serve two Masters as it were, but even here a sub would have one of us as their primary Master. Some would consider us a poly house, but we consider ourselves a lifestyle family. We do have several subs in our house at different times, although not all are collared for we take in ones that need a place to regroup or to help them out when they are in need. There is the old joke about old style poligamy.....How can a man have multiple wifes, one is hard enough to live with. In our family we are not seeking a harem but a small cohesive family that is based on mutual trust, respect, honesty, open communication, and love. As in any relationship each family member has responsibilities to the others and both the sub/slave and Masters have their special responsibilities to to each other for in the D/s - M/s relationships each side has needs that have to be met whether those needs are sadistic or masochistic.

When I was younger and learning about the life, I tried both sides of the whip as it were and learned so much about the lifestyle and myself. I realized that I can be quite the maso, but when it was finally said and done I realized that even when subbing I would top from bottom and could never really be submissive for I am a natural Dom and just can't ever really give over total control. And besides the sadist always wins out in me. But all in all I find it much harder work to actually dominate another than to sub. On the other hand if you love something the work is worth it all and it is not hard but a pleasure.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 6:56:54 AM   
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and i do care what you have to say, just don't care if anybody gets upset or disagrees.


Which is all cool, as long as you don't get upset in response to people being opposed to you.  It just means you have already made you mind up/decision.  Nothing wrong with knowing your own.

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the last time i hit a guy, he cried and i laughed because he said he could not feel pain. then when he stopped crying a cussing i told him he was a p*ssy and to get out.


Again, if that is his and yours thing, go with it.  If however you did it without afterthought it's not healthy for either yourself or the person your doing it with.  Just remember that because you are female, doesn't leave you safe.  You are just as open to the same difficulties male sadists have to contend with.  Plus there is a big difference between sadism and ethical SM.  And realise that your orientation doesn't equal your actions and abilities/what you are capable of.

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the reason i was asking about the male Dom house is because it is a fantasy of mine that i am very seriously thinking about trying. yes, i know that there is more to 'service' than just sex and pain. heck, i'm chatting on yahoo and the Dom i'm talking to is interested i'm me enertaining him with my words and creative humor. i have a way of getting peoples attention wheather good or bad. yes, i guess i am an attetion whore. that is why i could never share with another female or bi-sexual male.


Meh, try it.  Then, regardless if you like it or not, try it again.  I always recommend you try something at least twice.  I don't believe you have to try more than that personally although I know some people say at least three times a charm.
I'd get off yahoo quick smart though.  Get some reality and off the chat machine.
 
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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 8:52:05 AM   
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my first and longest thought, perhaps even want (?) runs along the lines of a poly house but not really. that will make sense to you as you read this. how come it is okay for a Dom M or F to have multipul subs but a sub cannot have multipul Doms? if a Dom needs many subs to care for them and keep them happy then why can't  a sub serve as the single in a house of Doms? <snip>


There are. I know of subs that have lived with more then one Dominant or that if not living with them have served more then one Dominant and they have done it successfully. It just takes alot of talk and the Dominants working together.

A lady I know lived with her Master and her Dom for many years till she died just this year. It work out wonderfully for them.

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my other idea... are there maso Masters and sado slaves?



There are and it has even been discussed here on the CM forums more then once.
My former Dom was a bit of a maso and alot sadistic. I am alot maso and s little sadistic. We melded our desires extremely well. We got both sides of our needs met. I got to hurt him almost as much as i liked and he got to hurt me as much as he liked.

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if so, which again i'm sure there is, why isn't this ever touched upon?


It has been, right here on the CM forums. do a search or maybe someone will post the links for you.




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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 9:19:38 AM   
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I don't think it is impossible to serve more than one dominant but I am reminded of the Jesus saying "One cannot serve two masters". I think it would be taxing to serve more than one person but some folks are quite capable of doing that. I'd recommend going slowly when adding in new tops/doms just as I say going slowly when adding in new bottoms/subs/slaves.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 9:22:06 AM   
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i know that but i guess one of the main things i am asking here is why people don't talk about the things that are not the norm for "us". and why don't more Doms agree to such a house where one sub serves many? and why maso Masters do ever admit to this when asked. well i'm sure some do to the right people. but like i said. i'm just wondering.


I'm not sure where you are getting this idea that there are not multiple dom households.

I've known several couples where both parties were dom or at least dom to one slave/submissive in the relationship. I also know many household where only one person is the dom in a couple and the other is neither sub nor dom (like my household) and there is a slave who serves only one technically but also ends up helping the other.

It requires clear distinctions on the part of those in the top roles and that can be a challenge if both are dominant.

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RE: living the taboo in a taboo world - 12/5/2008 9:24:24 AM   
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I don't think it is impossible to serve more than one dominant but I am reminded of the Jesus saying "One cannot serve two masters". I think it would be taxing to serve more than one person but some folks are quite capable of doing that. I'd recommend going slowly when adding in new tops/doms just as I say going slowly when adding in new bottoms/subs/slaves.


A bit of a hijack, but to clear up any misunderstanding.  When Jesus made that statement in the original text, he was being specific - meaning God and money/riches etc.  Therefore the statement is pretty much pointless in this context.
 
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