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Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 4:25:13 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		Hello everyone,
There is a lot written about sub-frenzy, especially those who are just opening up to their submissiveness. My question is does this happen at any other time, beside then? Has anyone experienced this in a later stage of their submissiveness? If you have how did you handle it?

This is more of a curiousity for me, not something I am experiencing at the present time.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 4:38:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It can, but usually isn't the same calibre.  Frenzy tends to bring with it a blindness and illusion of reality- time and experience and harsh mistakes tend to force that to fall away in time.

But the craving and the climbing the walls feeling, that can happen at any time.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 4:48:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		To my knowledge, "sub frenzy" is just the special name BDSM people like ot use to refer to someone with poor self-discipline who can't have what they want RIGHT NOW.  I mean don't we all go through life fulfiling our various desires to various degrees?  So yeah, my guess is that it can happen any time to anyone... but like all things, it's more likely to happen to inexperienced folks... that's how the experienced folks GOT that experience *laughs*.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 7:36:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure. But not to such a degree simply because you've experienced it before and know what's happening. But yes, when he's been away for a while, it's all I can think of. Especially when he sends me hot emails to keep me thinking about stuff.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 7:42:05 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		Thank you L.A. for your response.
That does make perfect sense, and I sure did make a lot of mistakes in the beginning. I just learned to handle things better, with the occassional climbing the walls and that craving entering my life here and there.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 7:43:25 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		Thanks for responding Leadership. Oh yes, that right now syndrome, which is a no no, and I have learned to have more control on that.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 7:45:00 PM   
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Sure. But not to such a degree simply because you've experienced it before and know what's happening. But yes, when he's been away for a while, it's all I can think of. Especially when he sends me hot emails to keep me thinking about stuff.

Totally understand about those hot emails:). When Sir and I can't see each other for awhile, it does become a daily struggle, but I do find if i keep myself busy I am okay until late night.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/5/2008 7:45:36 PM   
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It happens, but the edge is off because you can recognize the symptoms. When it first happened to me- I had never even heard the term BDSM. I just knew I was going crazy and felt like an out of control 14 year old. I was casually dating a man who turned out to be a dom and I went into frenzy just from being exposed to such a dominant presence. He introduced me to everything and I haven't looked back.
 
Now, I can go into it from a dearth of play, or a wealth of it (the more I have, the more I need- greedy girl that I am). But I recognise it for what it is and don't let it rule me (only Master does that ! ). But I enjoy it more now for not being so confused and for knowing how I can get my needs met (begging usually helps....).
 
 
edited to add-- HEY! My 1001th post!!! I'm wicked now!!! YAY ME!!

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 12:13:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hejira92 
edited to add-- HEY! My 1001th post!!! I'm wicked now!!! YAY ME!!


So...Two paddles now huh? Ohhhhh...The possibilities....

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 12:35:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: oceanwynds

Hello everyone,
There is a lot written about sub-frenzy, especially those who are just opening up to their submissiveness. My question is does this happen at any other time, beside then? Has anyone experienced this in a later stage of their submissiveness? If you have how did you handle it?

This is more of a curiousity for me, not something I am experiencing at the present time.

blessings,
oceanwynds



Frenzy can happen to anyone for a variety of reasons--Doms get it, people who first read Harry Potter got it ( Potter frenzy), chocaholics get it when they discover that one great taste they have searched for--religious people get it when they think they have heard God speak--it isn't just for subs--it can happem anytime something wonderful and magical has for the moment transformed us and we want more.
 
<smiles> ride the tide, enjoy it, but periodically walk around and make sure those feet feel earth.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 1:20:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got it bad when my Lady and I first got together.  I describe it as a tightness in the chest and an -almost- overwhelming need to be with Her, submit to Her, and hope to have Her do all sorts of things to me.  I had serious trouble thinking clearly, or concentrating on anything else...work?  HA!  It is an awesome feeling, but not conducive for maintaining your regular life for more than a couple of days.  I had it for nearly two weeks...drove my wife crazy.

Things are starting to settle out a bit, but that tightness still comes back.. 


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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 1:46:53 PM   
oceanwynds


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Status: offline 		Thank you all for responding.
When I went through it the first time, I too wondered what came over me. Felt like a teenager and just totally out of control. I can handle missing Sir better, but not sure if i can ever get to a point of being okay with missing chocolate:)

oceanwynds

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 5:38:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		ooohh that's priceless! That comment says you are quite grounded--you'll be fine, hang in there.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 7:01:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527
To my knowledge, "sub frenzy" is just the special name BDSM people like ot use to refer to someone with poor self-discipline who can't have what they want RIGHT NOW. 

Thank you!  I have said this until I'm blue in the face and don't think anyone here has ever agreed.  Glad to know I'm not the only person who thinks this................luci

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 7:13:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I believe there is such a thing as rushing into things that we want to experience.  I also think that some people tend to do this whether involved in bdsm or more mainstream relationships.  I don't think it has anything to do with being "new", or being submissive.  I think it's more of a pattern that certain types of people are inclined repeat over and over, bdsm or not.

I can't say I've ever experienced it myself.  I'm more to the other extreme; often taking my time, to a fault, and stepping very carefully, it just happens to be my nature.. I'm sure others are more comfortable jumping  into the deep end right away; not sure it's necessarily a bad thing for everyone.

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 7:20:31 PM   
oceanwynds


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I believe there is such a thing as rushing into things that we want to experience.  I also think that some people tend to do this whether involved in bdsm or more mainstream relationships.  I don't think it has anything to do with being "new", or being submissive.  I think it's more of a pattern that certain types of people are inclined repeat over and over, bdsm or not.

I can't say I've ever experienced it myself.  I'm more to the other extreme; often taking my time, to a fault, and stepping very carefully, it just happens to be my nature.. I'm sure others are more comfortable jumping  into the deep end right away; not sure it's necessarily a bad thing for everyone.


In reality, I never been the type to totally jump in at first. I did go through this in the beginning, but I think a lot for me was the inability to understand a lot of things, plus still trying to get past my husband's death.
Thank you for your comment
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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 8:39:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well perhaps i have been in the Leather world too long i am not sure what this "frenzie" is?  Would someone please elaborate on it?
thank you in advance

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/6/2008 8:52:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, so not a sub or slave, but the topic caught my eye as it rolled around that scrolling menu. 

I can say that this 'frenzy' is felt on both sides.  Maybe it's like that infatuation stage when we first discovered there were people with other parts we liked!  I am glad I read this thread as it opened my eyes to something to watch for in a new sub.  Thanks to the OP and those that answered. 

See even us Doms can learn sometimes!




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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/7/2008 8:08:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sub frenzy? As in "dive into that velcro collar relationship because He's the first Dom to want me in ten whole minutes"?
I suppose (assuming that this is what you're referring to) that it could happen to anyone at any time, if their self esteem dropped low enough. In most cases though, the experienced subs know better, and know their worth well enough to avoid the risks involved in throwing yourself away like that.
Hey, wow, what an inconclusive answer!

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RE: Can sub frenzie happen later on? - 12/7/2008 10:30:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hissweetshiv

Sub frenzy? As in "dive into that velcro collar relationship because He's the first Dom to want me in ten whole minutes"?
I suppose (assuming that this is what you're referring to) that it could happen to anyone at any time, if their self esteem dropped low enough. In most cases though, the experienced subs know better, and know their worth well enough to avoid the risks involved in throwing yourself away like that.
Hey, wow, what an inconclusive answer!


laughing here. I never jumped into any collar. Perhaps self-esteem would play in it, or just wanting a lot more now syndrome.

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