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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 12:46:57 AM

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I am Polish but I am abroad working for a British company.

You have a finely practised tongue.I'm sure you could earn a fortune in the right position.

Please mail your C.V. (in Polish of Course) and I will be happy to act as your agent.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 12:02:14 PM

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You complain that there aren't enough "real sadists".

There is a problem with the term sadist. When some terrorists blow up a restaurant or hotel they are often described as sadists. When some sicko kidnaps a kid whom he rapes and murders - he is called a sadist. I presume you don't mean that.

Actually BDSM practioners are rather widespread. Homosexuals are estimated to comprise about 2.5% of the population. BDSM practioners are estimated at nearly 15%. Therefore gays are about as prevalent as Jews and kinksters are as prevalent as blacks.

If you look at the stats on matching sites you will find that for a vanilla site like eHarmony about 60% of the subscribers are women, whereas about 60% are men on BDSM matching sites. There are if anything too many men and not enough women available.

If you go to a typical munch there will be at least a couple women who will complain that their husband or boy friend won't spank/beat them as much as they might like. So your complaint is quite common.

Like the song says,"A good man nowadays is hard to find".

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 12:09:05 PM

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I would prefer if my prospective Master wouldnt be a sadist...

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 2:11:31 PM

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ok, call me thick and paint me pink, but why have we been suckered - i checked her profile, it looks normal enough - and what was the thread that got pulled -

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 2:37:42 PM

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It's real....and sometimes that reality is a dream and sometimes a nightmare. i have learned to roll with the punches.
PS Your English is wonderful and gar far better than my Polish. Sorry for the metaphors above but more often than not the reality is so much more intense than anything imaginable.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/11/2008 8:27:25 PM

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After reading the OP's profile, I can only say that marketers crack me up. Well chosen tread title. 2 points for you.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 2:47:27 AM

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RS, that is pretty much the way I saw it. Gotta love those that get all hopeful, "well, I will add my two cents worth and look cool (and send the profile an email of empathy)....just in case".

Kinda like the occasion emails I get from an attorney in London that tells me some rich old fart died and left me a ton of money, just because he met me somewhere once. I made such an impression on this old british dude (of course I don't remember meeting a rich, elderly british man...........in Iowa, or any other place I've ever been) that he got my email address and full name to put me in his will.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 5:02:37 AM

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BDSM can be both, a reality and an illusion.

Does it exist? Well yes it does exist, even in Poland but it depends where you are looking for it. You might find it in the 'X' section of 'Seksrety' for example which comes out every month in your local kiosk or railway station, you will never find it in Markiz (you never find anything 'real' in anything published by Jerzy Urban's wife, I'm afraid) and I'm sure you yourself OP remember Skandale?

Most people, including me, were once on BDSM dot pl, but since that site has disappeared I guess we're all scattered but if you go to Polchat and look for the SadoMasoClub you will find remnants of the old folks from the three original epicentres of the BDSM community in Warsaw, Krakow and Katowice. This is as good a place to start anywhere, for in Poland it's all mainly chatroom based, and Polchat is much better than all the other chatrooms on sites such as Wirtualna Polska, Onet, Interia or o2. But you find Poles all over the place and on every site you can think of.

I know what the OP means, though, and for our HNGs and those who don't follow through the Poles have their buraki (lit. beetroot), dresiarzy (kind of like a Polish chav), lalki (dolls) and others.

Then there's Schadzka dot com. Dunno still what to make of that site. There was a good BDSM section but they changed it to SM Dogging..

But there's also CM and other sites and I guess this is where you will find all who you need to find.

Prawdą, bajką czy iluzją, BDSM to jedno i to wszystko a różnica to jedynie myślenie o nim.

Reality, dreams or illusion, BDSM is one or all of these things, but the difference is only thinking about it.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 6:34:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: lally3

ok, call me thick and paint me pink, but why have we been suckered - i checked her profile, it looks normal enough - and what was the thread that got pulled -

The thread that got pulled said she (and her friends) were polish girls living in Britain (and mentioned about three other countries to boot) and that they would like to meet some nice sadistic men. It gave an email address to write to them, which was weird because it was a yahoo canadian address.

I can only think of one reason that phone conversation would be out of the question. (and it's not because someone doesn't have a phone...)

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 6:48:34 AM

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ok, call me thick and paint me pink, but why have we been suckered - i checked her profile, it looks normal enough - and what was the thread that got pulled -

The thread that got pulled said she (and her friends) were polish girls living in Britain (and mentioned about three other countries to boot) and that they would like to meet some nice sadistic men. It gave an email address to write to them, which was weird because it was a yahoo canadian address.

I can only think of one reason that phone conversation would be out of the question. (and it's not because someone doesn't have a phone...)

She is incredibly beautiful and is open to men of any age, etc., while complaining that she cannot find a good man, which is another sign of a fake. She also claims to be visiting the US and England this summer, so she is allowing a huge number of possible respondents. She is 22 and yet has some sort of job that has her working in Riyadh and/or the KSA - how many 22 year olds do you know that travel internationally?

The only way she could earn that kind of money would be by modeling and/or doing porn, but I doubt that Riyadh is the happening place for that.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 7:25:33 AM

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oh right..... thanks.... mutter mumble, shafting fucking bastards, i swear! - near where i live theres a polish girl shafting vulnerable old ladies out of wads of cash (patients of mine)!

bloody hell -

disclaimer: i know thats not all of them, but there seems to be a disproportionate number who are.

the awful thing is, is that the older generation who are still remembering the second world war think the polish are saints and probably their grandparents were -

stomps off!

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 9:28:45 AM

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She is incredibly beautiful and is open to men of any age, etc., while complaining that she cannot find a good man, which is another sign of a fake. She also claims to be visiting the US and England this summer, so she is allowing a huge number of possible respondents. She is 22 and yet has some sort of job that has her working in Riyadh and/or the KSA - how many 22 year olds do you know that travel internationally?

Lots of them DS, in fact many of them in fact become 'asystentka prezesa' (the CEO's 'personal' secretary) and they get to travel, get well paid, but also have to work.. ahem... 'overtime' too, on stuff like 'dicktation'.

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The only way she could earn that kind of money would be by modeling and/or doing porn, but I doubt that Riyadh is the happening place for that.

Modelling and porn in Poland? Have you come across any Polish porn magazines?

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 9:51:16 AM

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I don't know if the OP is "real" or "fake"... I suppose it could be either. The fact she hasn't come back here and has cruised the chat rooms spamming ads tends to make me think its probably a scammer. But also don't care about it enough to worry over pointing fingers.

On the other hand, I think Stella has a point about the number of women in not just Poland, but all over Eastern Europe, who are turning up as "personal" secretaries, adult models and porn actresses. Hell... starting to wonder if I shouldn't take a vacation through Eastern Europe.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 10:03:24 AM

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oh right..... thanks.... mutter mumble, shafting fucking bastards, i swear! - near where i live theres a polish girl shafting vulnerable old ladies out of wads of cash (patients of mine)!

I'm sure there is. For three years I've been talking about organized criminals and gangs coming from Poland but people look at me as if I'm stupid. The Polish mafioso have been doing quite well out of the UK employment market, almost monopolizing the casual work sector with their back street agency operations.

After living in Poland for 13 years or so I know the country and society like the back of my hand, I'm bilingual, able to translate both ways without thinking..

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disclaimer: i know thats not all of them, but there seems to be a disproportionate number who are.

The proportion is about 30/70, it's called Poland A and Poland B. Poland A are the most decent people you could ever come across, as for the rest... well... you want to know why I really came back to the UK?

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the awful thing is, is that the older generation who are still remembering the second world war think the polish are saints and probably their grandparents were -

Wow. That was about the first of three waves of immigrants. The second lot were the Solidarity lot, Lech Walesa's supporters, those who felt themselves to be so heroic in winning Polish freedom from 'communism' (actually state capitalism with a bit of Sozialrealpolitik thrown in) that they were above paying for anything. In my last four years I worked freelance as a translator, ended up being owed about $6,000 by different companies.

But you know these agencies will arrange to clean your home for £7-8 an hour but they pay a Bulgarian woman £2-3 an hour and as for Income Tax and National Insurance.. well... ahem.. next question okay? Not to mention what goes on on building sites and in catering, etc.

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 1:59:14 PM

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But you know these agencies will arrange to clean your home for £7-8 an hour but they pay a Bulgarian woman £2-3 an hour and as for Income Tax and National Insurance.. well... ahem.. next question okay? Not to mention what goes on on building sites and in catering, etc. (quote stella)

DO NOT GET ME STARTED!! -

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but that was an interesting read, thanks - 30/70 sounds about right - something for nothing sounds about right -

im not someone who normally feels comfortable having a go in a generalised way at a group of people, there will always be exceptions (and apologies to them) but its getting harder and harder to be polite. the brits do polite too well, we really do need to start getting a little stroppy about this situation - we've got thousands of bulgarians coming over soon - this little country just cant cope, its not good for our psyche and overall expectations of fair play.

we stand back and watch in horror as our generosity is taken broad side, we give them everything we've worked for and when theyre sick of our weather and want to go home, we pay them £2,000!!! -

who on earth voted in gordon brown, oh, thats right, NOONE!

sorry, bitch over

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RE: BDSM A Reality or a Dream? Hope I am wrong - 12/12/2008 2:44:07 PM

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Prawdą, bajką czy iluzją, BDSM to jedno i to wszystko a różnica to jedynie myślenie o nim.

Reality, dreams or illusion, BDSM is one or all of these things, but the difference is only thinking about it.

i'm doing barszcz for Christmas Eve supper Stella.......

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