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Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 12:33:02 PM   
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In the public scene or on message boards like these, when the question is asked "What is the most important part of an M/S or D/S relationship?", the answer 8 times out of 10 will probably be "Communication, communication, communication!" Good communication is the secret to making a M/S or D/S relationship work! It's all about communication!

However, unfortunately, 10 out of 10 times when this statement of fact is made, nobody really goes on to explain or describe what exactly "Good communication" is. Apparently, there is the thing out there called "communication" that can either be good or bad that is central to our relationships, but nobody can really pontificate on what that "good communication" is beyond the fact that we all are apparently supposed to have it.

So in response to this commonly unexplored topic, I am posing the following questions.
  • What is good communication?
  • How does one be a good communicator?
  • What is your communication style?
Now having presented such questions, I feel that it's only fair that I attempt to present my own answers. So allow me to bring you....*drum roll*...."The Guide to the MadRabbit Communication Style". (Please take notes. There will be a pop quiz at the end of the thread.)

My own communication style has been specifically designed for the purposes of being a leader, getting people to listen to me, and motivating them to do what I want. Sometimes I am very successful at it, particularly when dealing with people with submissive personalities, and other times....not so much. I've had girls following my every word, wanting to do anything I've said and....I've had people tell me to fuck off, stop bossing them around, and talking down to them.

The point is how you talk to someone is very much dependent on the individual and your tactics have to change based on thier personality. This, unfortanely, can only be learned via developing your empathy and intuition via hard knocks.

However, there is a quite a few general guidelines I have learned that I have found to work effectively across the board, more or less. These are things I have put together and learned from attending a communication seminar, reading leadership and communication books, finding extraordinary leaders in the work place and public scene and watching how they handle people, and my own hard knocks from being a leader in different contexts.

As always, I am not writing this as guru of communication or as someone who practices or exemplifies all these principles in every single situation. My posting history here is more than enough proof of that.

Be positive. When your having to talk about negative points, be constructive. People are not going to listen to you and do what you want if they don't believe that your working "for" them and not "against" them. Be empathetic and be mindful of their egos and offending them. Lighten things up and soften the blow when being critical. The goal is for them to leave the conversation feeling good and motivated with knowledge of areas they need to improve on, not down, worthless, and feeling like all there is is negativity.

Don't be aggressive. With that said, there is certain times when a little bit of aggression can prove useful in getting the severity of the point across, particularly in a power based relationship, but as a general rule, avoid it. Don't make threats. Don't make ultimatums. Don't raise your voice. Avoid body language like pointing a finger and waving your hands around. Be mindful of their personal space and not getting to close. If you start to feel yourself getting intense, step away. When people feel they are being threatened or backed into a corner, it activates their flight or fight response. At some point, they will either cower away and shut down or return the aggression. When that happens, most of the time, nothing productive will result beyond a shouting match or somebody too scared to speak.

Don't be passive. Don't be timid. Don't be meek. Don't show fear of offending them. Don't be afraid to talk. People are only going to listen to you, follow you, and take you seriously if your showing confidence and self assurance.

Don't be passive aggressive. Making passive aggressive comments is not constructive. It's usually an outlet for resentment or stress. It's a way to make little digs at a person and to vent while avoiding confrontation. It most likely will result in the person getting their back up and perceiving you as being hostile at which point any productive result of the communication will be lost. On top of that, IT'S ANNOYING. I know this for fact, because, as my posts will show, I am the king of passive aggressive and do it purposefully to annoy people. Petty? Yes. Am I okay with that and proud of it? Not at all and it's something I am trying hard to resist and improve on.

Be assertive. Assertive is that harmonious middle ground between aggressive and passive. It's demonstrating confidence and self assurance without being perceived as threatening or overbearing. Identify problems. Present solutions. Don't just say "I don't know". Come up with suggestions. Ask them what they think. Ask them for suggestions. Your directing and controlling the conversation, but your including them and making them a part of it.

Identify Your Goal. Ask yourself "What am I trying to make this person understand?" and "What is the best way to communicate this point?"

Listen. Listening is far more important than talking when it comes to communication. This is one of things I still am working on. Given that human beings are self centered by nature and tend to focus on "Me, Me, Me", the most common behavior we do when another person is talking is spending the time not listening to them, but thinking about what we are going to say next. This is the number one biggest road block to effective communication because if someone doesn't feel like you are listening to them, they aren't going to listen to you. Stop this behavior. Focus on what they are saying. Think about it. Process it. Focus on what they are saying and not how they say it. Ask for clarification. Be mindful that you might take something the wrong way. Explain that to them and ask them if that's what they meant by it.

Provide Them with Validation That You Are Listening and That You Care About Their Opinion. After explaining something, say "Does that make sense to you?" or "Do you understand that?". After giving your opinion or providing direction, say "Does that sound good to you?", "What do you think about that?", or "Do you think we can do that?". After listening to them, repeat back what they said with a "Okay, so if I am understanding you right, this is what you meant..." I am someone who is very non-expressive and I often come off like I am not listening to people, but rather what it actually is is that I am inside my own head, carefully thinking about what they are saying. Because of this, people often feel like they are talking to a brick wall so I have to make a point to be more extroverted and make the above statements.

Focus on "We" instead of "You" or "I" Don't say "You have a problem." Say "We have a problem and here is what we need to do about it." This serves the goal of instilling the feeling that you are working with them and not against them.

Talk to them on the Same Level. This particularly important in positions of authority and one of the reasons I want my girls to call me by my first name and not Master or Sir. If you don't talk to people on a human to human setting and rather from a boss to subordinate setting, they are not going to be able to relate to you or connect with you. If they can't empathetically connect with you, it is less likely they are going to be more motivated to listen to you and do what you want. Make jokes. Don't get offended if they say something that can be perceived as "disrespecting your authority". Make fun of yourself. When you get critical of them, make references to your own past mistakes. If you are trying to confront someone about their inconsistency of being on time, make references to your own problems with being late or getting out of bed in the morning. Avoid taking a position of being superior and take one of "Hey, we're both human and we both make mistakes."

The end result of merging all these guidelines together is (hopefully the following)...
  • Successfully communicating points and concepts.
  • Both people leaving the conversation understanding what the other person meant without any misconceptions
  • Motivating the other person to follow and accomplish your direction
  • Leaving them with a feeling that you care about them and that you listen to them.
  • Making them comfortable with discussing their issues/problems and being honest with you without fear of backlash.
  • Leaving them with a desire to want to talk to you again.


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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 12:48:41 PM   
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Dunno, but when I chat with someone for an hour or so I have a pretty good idea as she does about me. It somehow encompasses all those things you mentioned as you have to listen, be funny and positive.

Now all that is communication and, yes, it tells me and her I bet, if we want to get to know each other better. It is fast, stream of consciousness, no time to spell check, type communication that tells me lots about someone.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 12:59:08 PM   
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Listening is integral to communication.

Not listening to the words and casting judgement based on your own experiences, nor listening with the next question running through your mind; I mean listening to the words and the experiences of the other person. In this scenario, there should be a pause before the response, which allows you to digest all of the information.

There's the ability to see through the words to understand the nature of the negotiation, too - she may say: "yeah, that's great", but she doesn't always mean that. Needs and wants, body language etc.

In terms of: "don't be passive" etc........firm but fair......tell it how you see it, but within the realms of a considered opinion.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 1:12:31 PM   
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http://www.communicationpractices.org/

A place to start.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 1:13:24 PM   
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Not to make excuses for my behavior, but a little aggression even if its passive aggression is not such a bad thing. Without everyone grabbing for their copy of Webster's, girl would certainly like to clarify that those that have accused me of being passive aggressive might want to split the words up: passive and aggressive. It is good that a sub/slave is passive, but not too much, just means compliant and subordinate to their dominant. If we look at my personal tendency to be aggressive, that is also a good thing. Insult or attack my mistress, girl will defend my mistress. Aggression also makes someone a little competitive, if not against others but to also compete against yourself and improve on your self. Does being such make anyone less communicative, not really in my opinion. They are both good qualities of properly focused by the right dom/me.
Girl is very sure that others will dispute what has been stated.
Honestly, if another bites, do not think anyone should lower their head and put their tail between their legs. If the bite is wanted, expected or a disciplinary action, the sub/slave takes their licks. As girl said before, bite mistress and she don't like it, damn straight the sub/slave should have the right to defend their mistress and do what is possible to get their mistress to safety.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 1:20:39 PM   
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Remember that, no matter how good your communication skills are in general, there will be some people who's communication technique differs too much for you to be able to connect with them.

In other words, there is no more universal "communication compatibility" then there is universal "sexual compatibility".


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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 1:51:23 PM   
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Kyra stated a thread over a year ago on Effective communication.  I went back and pulled a post from the beautiful Elegant and reposted it here.  It is not so much what is good to do... but gives  a good list of Don'ts.

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Kyra,
It seems that breakdown in communication often happens during arguments, for Master and me this used to be quite common.

Below is something I wrote late last year about this subject:

Communication During Arguments
Nothing is trivial when arguments are involved. In most cases the ensuing argument is actually over something deeper than the incident itself. Arguing is not always 'bad. What is 'bad' is using poor communication skills during an argument.

Characteristics Of Bad Communications During Arguments

1. Truth: Insisting that you are "right" and the other person is "wrong".
2. Blame: Saying that the problem is the other person's fault.
3. Martydom: Claiming that you're an innocent victim.
4. Put-down:Implying that the other person is a loser because he or she "always" or "never" does certain things.
5. Hopelessness: Giving up and insisting that there is no point in trying.
6. Demandingness:Insisting that you ar entitled to better treatment but you refuse to ask for what you want in a direct, straightforward way.
7. Denial: Insisting that you don't feel angry, hurt, or sad when you really do.
8. Passive Aggression: Pouting, withdrawing or saying nothing. Or, storming out of the room, hitting intimate objects or slam doors.
9. Self-blame: Instead of dealing with the problem, acting as if you're an awful, terrible person.
10. Helping: Instead of hearing how depressed, hurt, or angry the other person feels, you try to "solve the problem" or "help" him or her.
11. Sarcasm: Your words or tone of voice convey tension or hostility which you aren't openly acknowledging. 
12. Scapegoating: Suggesting that the other person has "a problem" and that you're sane, happy, and uninvolved in the conflict.

13. Defensiveness: Refusal to admit any wrong-doing or imperfection.
14. Counterattack: Instead of acknowledging how the other person feels, you respond to their criticism by critizing them.
15. Diversion: Instead of dealing with how you both feel in the here-and-now, you list grievances about past injustices.
Arguments can have positive ramifications and becoming aware of these poor communication traits is the first step in better communication during arguments.



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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 1:59:32 PM   
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Ohhhhhhhhh wow, I see alot of my past in that post........




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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:04:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Ohhhhhhhhh wow, I see alot of my past in that post........



I think many of us do!  but few will admit it! Worse yet.. few will even say that I am still doing from time to time.  Which I am! I guess I am still a work in progress. 

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:05:43 PM   
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Thank you for posting this, MadRabbit

It is of great interest to me, since I have always felt that I lack in good communication skills.
I just going to read this thread and make some notes.

Thanks again
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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:08:09 PM   
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Oh yeah, I definately can attest to ongoing stupidity. Let's see #1 which of course leads into #2.....definately #7 which leads into #12.

Good thing I plan on living another 60ish years....


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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:09:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DelilahDeb

http://www.communicationpractices.org/

A place to start.


Thanks for the link DelilahDeb, i have saved it in my files.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:11:39 PM   
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When I think of communication with my partner and as a submissive, I let my feelings be known. I also speak up when sceneing and describe how I am feeling. If I am experiencing discomfort, I let my partner know where and what type of physical sensation it is. I try to describe things so that my partner can make informed decisions.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 2:32:36 PM   
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SIX COMMITMENTS TO LIFE

"The seasons don't fear the Reaper
Nor do the wind and the sun and the rain..."

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What else would the first commitment to life be if not a commitment to living? Therefore your first commitment should be to maintaining your body and your mind in the best possible condition and to the best of your abilities, circumstances and health. Some of us have other commitments which provide us with short term comfort, relief, fulfilment and pleasure, such as cigarettes, alcohol, exercise, good food, diverse sensual or sexual activities, but none of these at any time should outweigh this first and primary commitment to our mind and body, and therefore to life.

The second commitment is to be connected with life and others, to seek to perceive yourself in others and to perceive others in yourself. This involves not making judgments of others without spending time in their shoes. Learn to understand others and to be able to discriminate by making judgments from the right perspective, rather than from the wrong prejudice.

The third commitment is to the understanding of the concept that your thoughts and feelings have a strong influence on your speech and actions. Part of this is also understanding that your spiritual, emotional and psychological development is equal to or greater than your physical or material development and that control over your body and health cannot really be achieved without control over your mind.

The fourth commitment is that of understanding that the true nature of the human being does not lie in their appearance, nor in their social position, nor in their status, but only in their inner nature and soul. The meaning of life can be seen as finding the balance between the demands of the outer world and the demands of one's soul.

The fifth commitment is that to stand by a decision once made, even in the face of daunting adversity and opposition, right up until the conclusion of that decision or the admission that the decision was made in error.

The final commitment is one of being open and positive to the world and the people around us, to listen, to interact, to share, give, and accept the companionship and brotherhood of other human beings.


(taken from the forthcoming book 'You Me Them' by me)

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 6:40:33 PM   
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To me good communication means that when it's over, everyone gets to where they want to go.

How- practice makes perfect truly.  Mostly it's about being aware of when it works and when it doesn't and being able to pinpoint the fault lines

My style- wait and wait and wait and listen and listen and wait and throw in an intuition block or two, a dash of fair play, owning my own issues, dividing out all the defense mechanisms, and then act too harshly practical

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 7:34:27 PM   
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Good communication to me means to be able to relate to another via your senses.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/10/2008 8:05:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
My style- wait and wait and wait and listen and listen and wait and throw in an intuition block or two, a dash of fair play, owning my own issues, dividing out all the defense mechanisms, and then act too harshly practical


Ahhhhhh, I can see all those aspects in your posts. That's how you do it. Heh.

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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/11/2008 2:32:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MadRabbit



So in response to this commonly unexplored topic, ......

An assumptive close, right at the beginning....so i switched off right there.....


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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/11/2008 7:16:25 PM   
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Good subject.
Love KoM's list, too.

One thing I've learned about myself; I'm often a slow processor.
(Not about everything, but sometimes, probably more when something is very new to me.)

Sometimes I sense I'm not feeling right about something, but I'm not sure exactly why right away.
I have to sleep on it, or maybe take a couple of days to sort things out, even...

So I've learned not to rush myself in communicating, to view it as an ongoing process and take the time, if necessary.


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RE: Being a Good Communicator - 12/11/2008 7:28:17 PM   
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Then we say we will change and how long does it really last---for most people.
 
I find communication to the majority is (if you will excuse the pun) lipservice--it means work and honesty and far too many don't give a damn.  They love the sound of their voice far too much.
 
I don't think there is enough emphasis on listening--that takes work too, for IMHO to be a  communicator, one needs to know when to shut up and not just listen, but hear.
 

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