squirrelfury
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Joined: 8/20/2004 From: Houston, Texas Status: offline
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Y'know, I had absolutely no thought, upon originally posting, that this thread would become what it has over the course of so many replies. While some of those replies have been rambling digressions (mine), and some acerbic attacks (various), all have been both enjoyable and enlightening in a multitude of ways. I'd like to pause the discourse briefly, just to offer thanks in general to all who've coloured in the lines I laid down (or outside of them, but applied their colour nonetheless, for which I'm grateful), and to offer specific thanks to a few posters for ideas I hadn't considered. If I didn't name you specifically, don't consider it to be an implied slight or insult to the point of view you expressed, but a failing on my part to explicitly recognize the point you were making, or to have considered your point to be so naturally in line with my own views that to thank you explicitly would damage my own vanity, as it'd be admitting that I didn't consider something I should have thought of as obvious. Aravain, my thanks for the noting what I didn't when I wrote the OP, namely that the given definition was highly skewed so as to be almost farcical. LadyLou, thank you for first observing that the topic would have as well applied to male supremacy, and by pointing this out showing me that to just mention the former leaves me looking intellectually dishonest at the least. Allthatjaz, while I confess I got a bit lost somewhere in the midst of your first reply, thank you for bringing the idea of strippers in. No thread is complete without them. *grins* Likewise thanks all who continued on the line of stripper-theory. YourMissTress, thank you for pointing out that my OP was lacking in clarity when differentiating between the stated topic as a kink versus an actual encompassing enforceable worldview. Colouredin and starshine, I enjoyed your points raised while speaking to each other and including, among the concept of male or female superiority, racial and religious superiority. OrionTheWolf, I appreciate and thank you for your contributions in the clarification of an idealized practice of Gor offline, and the concept of it as a meritocracy. I do have to ask, where'd you get the 5% figure you'd mentioned about midway through the thread? Was that specifically mentioned in one of the books, or have you run the numbers and that's what came up, so to speak? MarcEsadrian, thank you for your reasoned (and reasonable) view of the OP. As noted earlier in this post, I'd have indeed done better to broaden beyond one gender, or gender in general, as related to inherent supremacy. I will say, however, that I'm not pushing any person or group's agenda, as implied by you. Nor was this written for "the applause of the politically correct crowd." It was written. Full stop. It's an opinion only, not a crusade launched for or against anything, and no intent to mobilize the masses lies behind it. Aszhrae, while there may be a certain discomfiture for readers of your replies, there can be no doubt as to your passion concerning the views reflected therein. Thank you for expressing and sharing that passion, and I can only envy you for it, since I tend to lack it myself. IronBear, thank you for a well-stated view on blanket statements and beliefs, and the expression or enforcement thereof. I'm certainly guilty of it. Your original reply stated better and more concisely what I should have considered before writing the OP, though I'm glad that the writing of it caused you to make the reply you did. So in the end, I can't feel too bad. *winks* OttersSwim, you made me giggle with the "scrubbing the Y chromosome" bit. Thanks for that. *grins* Likewise, subsequent replies to it. ResidentSadist, thank you for the Heinlein quotes, and the underlying message you were (I think) trying to get across to me by typing them. *grins* Camille65....that smiley makes me happy. And fits beautifully in the context you used it. Well played! *grins* SingleRarity, that is both a hilarious and beautifully accurate restructuring of the argument it references. Thank you! Usako, that smiley also makes me snicker. Well done. MadRabbit, I'm stealing "I think it's okay to tell people they are wrong just as long as you're okay with letting them go about continuing to be wrong after the fact." That's brilliant, and thank you. (edited to remove some needless snark on my part)
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