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It amazes me what reverence people give to the source of "news" rather than the content. Bin Laden and Saddam never forged any type of alliance.
Did you miss out on watching the ABC News report from 1990, during Bill Clinton's Presidency? It’s on YouTube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7n3ivH3pCQ.
As reported by, Sheila Macvicar: “Intelligence sources say bin Laden's long relationship with the Iraqis began as he helped Sudan's fundamentalist government in their efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction.”
“Three weeks after the bombing, on August 31, bin Laden reaches out to his friends in Iraq and Sudan.”
“ABC News has learned that during these meetings, senior Sudanese officials acting on behalf of bin Laden ask if Saddam Hussein would grant him asylum.”
“ABC News has learned that in December, an Iraqi intelligence chief, named Farouk Hijazi*, now Iraq's ambassador to Turkey, made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden.”
Or, how about the article from the New York Sun (http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqi-official-testifies-to-links-between-saddam/39631/):
Iraqi Official Testifies to Links Between Saddam and Al Qaeda
By ELI LAKE, Staff Reporter of the Sun | September 14, 2006
WASHINGTON
A deputy prime minister of Iraq yesterday offered a sharp contradiction of the conventional wisdom here that Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Al Qaeda had no connection before the 2003 war, flatly contradicting a recent report from the Senate's intelligence committee.
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What's more the history does not go far back enough.
You’re right. There is a lot more history there that should be read. And, hopefully, people who care about knowing the facts of the events leading up to the ground attack in Iraq will do the necessary study of the history for them self. As has already been mentioned by others, here, the OP was ridiculously long and trying to put more history into it would have not been a good idea.
Some of the important events that were not included in the OP:
October 22, 1979: President Jimmy Carter grants deposed Iranian leader, and longtime friend of the U.S., The Shah, asylum in the U.S., after being overthrown in the Iranian Revolution.
November 4, 1979: 52 Americans are taken hostage in the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, a direct result of Carter’s decision.
December 1979: USSR invasion of Afghanistan, followed by the Carter Administration secretly sending U.S. $ to the anti-Soviet, Afghan Islamist factions to help run the Soviets out.
January 1980: President Carter proclaimed the "Carter Doctrine," declaring that the U.S. was willing to use military force if necessary to prevent "an outside power" from conquering the Persian Gulf.
January, 20, 1981: Ronald Reagan is sworn in and the hostages are released, after being held captive for 444 days.
1982: At the request of the Lebanese government, the United States established a peacekeeping force between Muslims and Christians in Beirut.
October 23, 1983: Islamic Jihad (Hizballah) truck loaded with 2,500 pounds of TNT crashed through the main gate of the U.S. Marine Headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon killing 241 USA Army, Marine and Navy servicemen and wounding 81. Two minutes later another Islamic Jihad (Hizballah) truck packed with explosives crashed into a French base two miles away killing 58 soldiers. The attacks were carried out by Hizballah with the help of Syrian intelligence and financed by Iran.
November 1984: U.S. and Iraq restored diplomatic relations, which had been ruptured in 1967 and Washington extended a $400 million credit guarantee for U.S. exports to Iraq.
April 1986: Bomb explodes in a Berlin discothèque, known to be a favorite place for American G.I.s to visit, resulting in the death of a serviceman and 63 American military personnel injured. Libya was found to be responsible.
April 15, 1986: President Reagan authorized the US to carryout a series of air strikes on ground targets in Libya. The attack was designed to halt Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi’s ability to export terrorism, offering him "incentives and reasons to alter his criminal behavior.”
October 31, 1998: President Clinton signed H.R. 4655 into law, which instituted a policy of "regime change" against Iraq.
October 12, 2000: Suicide terrorists exploded a small boat alongside the USS Cole—a Navy Destroyer—as it was refueling in the Yemeni port of Aden, killing 17 American sailors and injuring many more.
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Sheeple are not aware that at one time we supported Saddam, Bin Laden, and even the Taliban.
The U.S. (and pretty much every nation on the planet) has been friendly with nations that we later had conflicts with and vice-versa.
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I wonder what would have happened if we had just left them all alone.
Asking what if is really pretty futile, since we can’t go back in time and undo what’s been done. It’s more productive, in my opinion, to examine history and the events that contributed to a conflict and learn from it so that a similar problem might be prevented or handled better in the future.
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All we've really accomplished is to become targets, taking the heat off of Israel who actually deserves it. It's called drawing the fire.
Are you seriously saying that Israel “deserves” to be attacked?
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You happy now ?
Why should any of this make me happy? War is a terrible thing. As a 12-year Army veteran, the possibility of going to war was a threat that hung over me on a regular basis. But, war has been a part of human life for more than 5,000 years and it, undoubtedly, will not be going away any time soon. So, it’s better to try to understand how they start and how they might be avoided or, at least, lessened.
By the way, for anyone interested, there is a very interesting video on YouTube of President Clinton’s Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright in a November 11, 1998 Charlie Rose show answering questions about Iraq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjR9SJVobI
Madeleine Albright on Charlie Rose: November 11, 1998
Partial transcript of interview:
Rose: Tell me where we are and what demands we are making of the Iraqi regime.
Albright: Well, the demands are really very simple because they’re the demands of the international community, which is that he [Saddam Hussein] comply with the [UN] Security Council resolutions that were imposed at the end of the Gulf War.
Rose: And our options are?
Albright: Well, all the options are on the table. And, the President has spoken today at a Veteran’s memorial service, basically saying that we prefer a diplomatic option but, if he does not comply, we are also prepared to use force. And, what Saddam wants to do are two things that are incompatible. He wants sanctions to be lifted and he wants to have the ability to retain his Weapons of Mass Destruction. And, he can’t have it both ways. Weapons of Mass Destruction are too threatening to his neighbors, to the stability of the region, and to us.
Rose: The United States is prepared to use force with or without Security Council approval.
Albright: Well, we believe that we have authority to use force already and that is something that we have said over the years and, most recently, the Security Council has again restated that if he does not comply there would be the severest consequences. But, we have never questioned our right to use force.
Rose: What can force achieve?
Albright: Well, the whole problem here, Charlie, that we’re trying to do, is to deal with the problem of this man, who insists on preserving or being able to reconstitute his Weapons of Mass Destruction. He has, actually, he’s one of the few people in the history of the world that has used chemical weapons against his own people. So, this is not kind of a theoretical issue as to whether he’s prepared to use these weapons. He has. So, we consider his ability to have them and reconstitute them a threat to the neighbors and to us. So, the purpose, if we were to use force, would be to significantly degrade his ability to reconstitute his Weapons of Mass Destruction and to make sure that he cannot threaten his neighbors.
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