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CreativeDominant -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/27/2008 12:08:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evility

A questions for the dominant types among us but all opinions are welcome.

Just glanced at a new (to me) profile that popped up when I logged in for a submissive female. Her profile states that her account is monitored by a male dominant friend who will field all emails to her and evaluate them. A few requirements and questions to be answered were included in the instructions. I didn't bother reading the full profile - just what popped up in the scroll window.

Would you woo another dominant and jump through whatever hoops he has set up to talk to or meet a submissive here?

I'm going to gather from the way I worded that question that the brighter souls among you can surmise my answer, but I am interested in yours.



My answer is similar to Michael's, LaT's and others.  I seek someone who is sure enough of her own choices that she doesn't need to run them by someone else.  Nor does she let a friendship/play relationship interfere with something she might be able to build with someone that could be permanent.  I've had interesting discussions about the complexity of trying to move forward with something with someone when their attention or your own is centered somewhere else.  Some folks say that it takes strength and endurance and willingness to be with that person to get past all that but with some, is that really what it takes?  Or does it take being willing to offer up all that the other person wants to hear, including your feelings about their involvement elsewhere, even though it may not be what you feel?  Should you do that simply because you think in your head and feel in your heart that having something with this person is worth biting your tongue anytime those sensitive areas come up?  Personally, I don't think so because holding back on what you really feel...even if it costs you...makes her, and him by extension, the dominant partners in your relationship right from the beginning.

I can understand that a submissive I become interested in may well be playing with someone (or more than one someone) else and she respects and honors that person's opinion.  But in the long run, if that person's opinion matters to her so much that any chance I might have with her can be blown by my running an idea by her that contradicts with his in any way or disagrees with her own concept of what her relationship is to her "playing" partner(s), and I end up watching everything I say for fear that honest communication...though vaunted by many...cannot take place unless it is only complimentary,  then I wind up playing his/her courtship game rather than my/her game. 

I can understand that a submissive that I am interested in may not be playing with someone else but may have had bad past experiences and so has chosen someone to be her "protector" with the "collar of protection" and all that...sorry but I agree with those that the potential for drama is too great.  There might be exceptions...kalista 07 is an example of an exception, I believe...but for the most part, I believe that the coin is going to come down on the side of drama rather than on the side of quiet building.

I can understand being new to BDSM and more susceptible to manipulation by a skillful predator but if you are not new to dating, then think about all you've learned through the years, read as much as you can, find people you respect and learn from them and then, put on your big-girl panties and jump into the fray.




JustDarkness -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/27/2008 2:50:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Evility

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Just glanced at a new (to me) profile that popped up when I logged in for a submissive female. Her profile states that her account is monitored by a male dominant friend who will field all emails to her and evaluate them. A few requirements and questions to be answered were included in the instructions. I didn't bother reading the full profile - just what popped up in the scroll window.

Would you woo another dominant and jump through whatever hoops he has set up to talk to or meet a submissive here?



I read the same profile. My first 2 thoughts were;

-why the hell can't she pick a Dom herself. Not self supporting?....no go here
-will he be in bed with her and me when I do her




BondageBarbieX -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/28/2008 12:10:34 AM)

She is probably under his protection or she just wants him to weed through the losers,which run amok on here. If she is hot,go for it!




Jeptha -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/28/2008 10:28:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

well well so we hit another twisted conncept of artsy fartsy stuff label cops are comming for ya lol to me if your own by another how can how can you be a true dom or domme sounds mor switch but shrugs what ever i like structure makes for less drama
Well... I was once in a situation where I considered the possibility of sharing my sub - for situations that would be sexual, not just for kink play.

Nobody I knew offhand was a candidate, but occasionally people I didn't know would approach me about it, and I would give a listen.

I did want to heavily screen them for various reasons (safety related being most important). I probably overdid it in my "gatekeeper" position, but I considered it my responsibility.
(edited to add; if you're ever in that position you might find that the people who do approach you out of the blue can seem very sketchy.)

Some people got that, others didn't. Oh, well.

So, that's the sort of situation I was thinking of.

If it's a generic situation like "I'm a sub. Contact my dominant" I probably wouldn't be interested.




immoral -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/28/2008 10:52:09 AM)

maybe im missing a little something..are you allowed to have conversations etc....or is this *check* before you are even allowed to attempt to get to know this person?.i think if the getting to  know process is allowed...and shes not just being pimped by someone unseen in a *lending * my toys kind of way......i have to say it does rather come across like she  has an allegance to this other person  that is a prior attatchment (  so i personally would say its a bit off if asked (-the love in a relationship is equally devisible by the people in it ) and i wouldnt have a third party pull the plug on me...actually  with thought there isnt a flip side to this.....the answer is no....[sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]




secretmaster22 -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/28/2008 10:59:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: immoral

maybe im missing a little something..are you allowed to have conversations etc....or is this *check* before you are even allowed to attempt to get to know this person?.i think if the getting to  know process is allowed...and shes not just being pimped by someone unseen in a *lending * my toys kind of way......i have to say it does rather come across like she  has an allegance to this other person  that is a prior attatchment (  so i personally would say its a bit off if asked (-the love in a relationship is equally devisible by the people in it ) and i wouldnt have a third party pull the plug on me...actually  with thought there isnt a flip side to this.....the answer is no....[sm=beatdeadhorse.gif]

Yes, I would think there would be a huge difference between wooing the submissive and then having to ask permission before being intimate, and actually having to ask the Doms permission to even be able to speak to her, but to each his own.




Jeptha -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/29/2008 12:00:52 PM)

The question is general; "Would you woo another dominant?"
The OP stopped reading the profile after he encountered the request to communicate via a third party.
So there is no specific content.

The question in its entirety is; "Would you woo another dominant and jump through whatever hoops he has set up to talk to or meet a submissive here? "


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ORIGINAL: immoral

maybe im missing a little something..are you allowed to have conversations etc....or is this *check* before you are even allowed to attempt to get to know this person?




Vendaval -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/29/2008 5:27:04 PM)

I would be more likely to talk with the chaperone or guardian in a face to face context than in an Online situation.  Trying to "woo" or cozy up to somebody is not my style.




BondageBarbieX -> RE: Would you woo another dominant? (12/29/2008 8:07:02 PM)

Yes,I agree it is not many Dominants style to woo but on a site like this when a sub gets hundreds of messages a day... to get  a subs attention courtship is necessary ...especially on here, if you want to stand out from the pack.I enjoy getting wooed and courted and the Dom I am with now knew I was being courted by others but he won my heart and love.




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