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I don't think that is necessarily the case, although I could see the merit for some.  I think it might be a good idea to have a sadist beat on you for a bit if you want to be a sadist, because it would help to understand the pain that your sub is going through.  Where the good places to hit might be how to hit.  That sort of thing.  

The thing is, I didn't "want" to be either a sadist or a dominant. I simply was, before I knew what it was.

So are you a sadist with no knowledge of what you are doing?  Sounds dangerous to me.  If you have knowledge then you understand that it takes more than just being a sadist.  I'm only arguing that the knowledge that can be gained from taking a little pain yourself might be helpful in the process.  I don't think someone who has no submissive tendencies at all will necessarily gain too much knowledge from being submissive for a time. 

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I don't think that is necessarily the case, although I could see the merit for some.  I think it might be a good idea to have a sadist beat on you for a bit if you want to be a sadist, because it would help to understand the pain that your sub is going through.  Where the good places to hit might be how to hit.  That sort of thing.  

The thing is, I didn't "want" to be either a sadist or a dominant. I simply was, before I knew what it was.

So are you a sadist with no knowledge of what you are doing?  Sounds dangerous to me.  If you have knowledge then you understand that it takes more than just being a sadist.  I'm only arguing that the knowledge that can be gained from taking a little pain yourself might be helpful in the process. 

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I don't believe this should turn into a rule - it obviously serves one skills to be in a sub's skin and learn the feelings "at first hand", however it's not a requisite. Most of Dominants are being mentored by other Dominants - "on the job training".

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I don't think that is necessarily the case, although I could see the merit for some.  I think it might be a good idea to have a sadist beat on you for a bit if you want to be a sadist, because it would help to understand the pain that your sub is going through.  Where the good places to hit might be how to hit.  That sort of thing.  

The thing is, I didn't "want" to be either a sadist or a dominant. I simply was, before I knew what it was.

So are you a sadist with no knowledge of what you are doing?  Sounds dangerous to me.  If you have knowledge then you understand that it takes more than just being a sadist.  I'm only arguing that the knowledge that can be gained from taking a little pain yourself might be helpful in the process. 

Yeah, LaT, the hell are you doing being something that you didn't learn how to be?  Really, dontcha know ya gotsta getcha sum learnin ta beat sum ass?[;)]
 
Seriously, secretmaster22, you don't learn to be a sadist, that's like learning to like broccoli.  You enjoy it or you don't.  You either are sadistic or you are not.  That's not to say that your likes and dislikes can't change over time, but you can't be educated into becoming sexually aroused by other peoples pain, humiliation and discomfort.
 
Learning to be a good dominant, master, or mistress is very possible.  Expanding and improving your knowledge, your relational skills, your people skills, your technical skills are all things that can increase your potential as a dominant, master, or mistress.  They don't gaurantee you will be better, but they increase your chance.
 
Being sadistic or masochistic is a personality trait, something inherent and part of what makes you who you are. 
 

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ya'll are cracking me up with your responses.  I guess I should have specified.  To be a "talented" sadist it requires knowledge which I think could be helped along by feeling some of the pain involved in the process.  Of course it doesn't take a rocket scientist to smack someone's ass any more than it takes one to stick your dick in someones pussy.  But that doesn't make me a great lover.  If you don't agree with the statement than say so, don't argue the finer points of the english language.  What's the big deal anyways?  A little pain never hurt anybody.  and notice i agreed with most posters that pretending to be submissive probably wouldn't help much. 

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ya'll are cracking me up with your responses.  I guess I should have specified.  To be a "talented" sadist it requires knowledge which I think could be helped along by feeling some of the pain involved in the process.  Of course it doesn't take a rocket scientist to smack someone's ass any more than it takes one to stick your dick in someones pussy.  But that doesn't make me a great lover.  If you don't agree with the statement than say so, don't argue the finer points of the english language.  What's the big deal anyways?  A little pain never hurt anybody.  and notice i agreed with most posters that pretending to be submissive probably wouldn't help much. 

  Arguing the finer points of the english language? No.  Not me.  Read a few of my posts, I butcher it as well as correct grammar constantly.
 
What I take issue with, unless of course you know them personally and have seen them play on more than a few occasions, is you calling someone dangerous.  Making irresponsible assumptions about people you don't know is also dangerous.  The Marquis de Sade was very knowledgable and was a talented sadist. Did that make him safe?  By your statement, it sounds as if you would assume so.