samboct
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From my perspective as a target of these people, one of the problems I've got (along with many others) is the need for identification before shooting.
A couple of points-
The lessons of history are very clear for Jews. Anytime anybody says "We want to kill Jews"- I believe them, because odds are they will accomplish that goal. Thus, I take this threat personally.
Next problem- who in fact are the people threatening to kill Jews? I don't have a clear and simple response here. And what I know is that if you can't identify your enemy before he spots you, you're in trouble.
From my perspective, I know that most Muslims are reasonable people and I have nothing to fear from them. (And of course they should be free to lead their lives as they see fit without prejudice.) The problem is that I can't identify the ones that would attempt to do me harm- and I'm tired of trying! It's bad enough to know that you're a target. What's worse is to not even be able to identify who's coming after you until they've got a gun in their hands or are reaching for a vest to blow themselves and me and my family up. I'm not real interested in trying to come up with the PC terms for the person who thinks that they have a God given right to kill Jews, I just want to know who they are so I can defend myself. Eternal vigilance is a nice phrase, but human beings need rest.
From my perspective, when the innocents get used as shields- and they had other options- they're not so innocent any longer. There is clearly a certain amount of both tacit and explicit encouragement given to the people making bombs and other weapons by their neighbors. Why aren't the "innocents" doing what they can to stop the towelheads from killing Jews? By the way- I thought the common use of towelhead these days meant Muslim terrorist? Maybe I'm getting as bad as the Pirate.
The mess in Iraq just goes to illustrate the problem. After 5 years, I'm damned if I can keep things like the Sunnis, Baathists, Shias, Kurds, etc. straight. Remember the movie "The Man Who Would be King" (Michael Caine and Sean Connery IIRC)? Talking with the leaders of two warring tribes the complaints were the same- " The so and sos are burning our fields, stealing our cattle, raping our women, and pissing in our streams..."(Not an exact quote, except for the last bit.) These people are happy fighting each other, otherwise there would have been peace years ago. Making sure that they called with something that isn't insulting isn't going to fix the problem and is essentially a distraction. And I want to call the people that are trying to kill me nasty names- it may be the best that I can do....
Artic
Actually, you do the Soviet generals and the men doing the fighting a disservice by the comment that all they did was run the Germans out of bullets. While that was certainly true in the first 6 months of the war, by the time the winter set in in '41, the Russians were learning fast. By 1943 they were able to win the battle of Kursk against a largely equivalent German force. Encircling Stalingrad also enabled them to wipe out Paulus's 6th Army- which was a massive tactical blunder on Hitler's part. Yes, I know Zhukov's way of dealing with minefields was to basically march over them, but he was actually a pretty skilled general. (Taught the Japanese a thing or two as well.)
I'll stand by my comment that body counts have never won a war.
Sam
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