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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 11:44:40 AM

T1981

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I am a novice at recieving caning, and I can say for me, it's taking some getting used to. So far we've only used dowel rods of various sizes, and we are going to attempt the mini-blind rod this week, but it is most certaintly a different kind of pain for me. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE pain, alot, but this is a different kind. It doesn't take much for me to break down and start crying with these - which makes it that much more fun to test and push with. But slowly, for us.

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 12:19:41 PM

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Break down and start crying. oh shit. Looks like veeery slowly for me. Thanks!

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 1:15:41 PM

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Hi to all. Will try to be brief. Can a novice sub take a caning?

I did and loved it

. As a matter of fact, kiwisub took the words right out of my errr...post. It was baptism by fire from the beginning and I've loved it ever since. Mmmmmm, canes....................luci

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 1:19:58 PM

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Stay away from the feet, Bastinado HURTS

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 2:48:50 PM

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I wouldn't recommend it but then it depends on the sub.

I once had a fairly inexperienced sub who took 52 moderate force, slow speed lashes with a fiberglass dressage whip, and he had a rough time taking it. Yet take it he did.

I'm sure he would never have been able to withstand 10 lashes full force at high speed, I'd have cut his glutes like hamburger meat.

The next day he took about 5 lashes with a bullwhip, light force, fairly high speed, but the leather still split his skin twice on misfalls. I thought he took it bravely. I was out of practice then, there was a time I could put out a cigarette held between a man's lips at 30 feet without disturbing the cigarette.

This level of tolerance for a virtual newbie to whip play pleased Me, it indicated a commitment to service and obedience. He was able to increase his tolerance over time, although I never pushed him very far beyond his relatively low threshhold for pain.

It's important to note he was an accountant who sat analyzing numbers all day, all neatness and sophisitication but nowhere near a hardbody.

A blue collar working man who gets exercise all day on his job, walking, lifting heavy objects, or a man who works out regularly and is better toned could take more on a first session.

I have had experienced pain sluts take 80 full force lashes of a fiberglass dressage whip before they passed out; and between 30 and 40 moderate force lashes with a bullwhip that left a few cuts and welts behind before they cried tears begging for mercy.

Hope this helps give you some kind of 'bdsm whip play 101 barometer' to go by.

I would be very wary of a Domme who stipulates full force caning, not that she's untrustworthy, but simply because she's clearly stating her expectations and is obviously wanting to attract an experienced painslut who knows he is a hardcore masochist.

All you can do is ask her, talk it out, and move forward cautiously with a safe call to rely on.

If she is in fact experienced, and is in fact conscientious, she will not deliver more than you can safely handle as a newbie. A Great Domme would never 'ruin' or 'run off' a potential good sub, newbie or otherwise, without first educating, testing and developing his limits.

Good luck with that, let us know how it goes?

TexasMaam

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 2:49:19 PM

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Canes are delicious! My experience has been they give a dual sensation...an initial sting, and then a deep burn. They can leave quite a pretty mark as well.....much depends on the skill level of the Dom/me.

So, you are new...hopefully she knows this. Macho will not serve you in this case...honesty will. If you'd like to impress her, explain that you'd be willing to try. She's the one in charge, and if she is good, she shouldn't take you past what you can handle.

Discuss what your objectives are....both of you. When I Top, its not about 'how much' a boy can take, its how 'open' energetically he's willing to go for me. If he suffers for me, truly suffers....whether he has lasting marks or cries is not important. Of course, the latter do tend to get a very visceral/physical sexual response from me. <weg>

Good luck and let us know how things go :)

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 2:51:25 PM

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My owner Missie (we're a couple of 4 years this very day actually, and only recently found BDSM), first used a cane on me about a week or so ago. It's about a cm in diameter and about a meter long. It hurt like HELL and left some very nice marks on my back, which faded after about 24 hours. It was good though. I mean yeah it really did hurt, but it wasn't enough to make me want to stop it or anything. It was strange... I didn't want her to do it, and I wanted her to stop, but I couldn't bring myself to actually use the safeword... I didn't want the BDSM of it all to stop.

Ms

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 2:59:46 PM

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well aren't you too cute! Missie's a lucky lady to have a plucky fellow like you! Go for the gusto, I always say.

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 3:21:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

well aren't you too cute! Missie's a lucky lady to have a plucky fellow like you! Go for the gusto, I always say.

; )

TM

Haha thank you :) she is very amazing and I am very lucky to be owned by such a wonderful person as her.

I've always had fantasies of domination and stuff, and she's always been interested in them, but it was only after finding BDSM a month or so ago that she became interested in this way. It's been a lot of fun exploring it. Particularly starting to become her slave. Also, it embarasses me to admit it, but despite her own fulfillment, it's now been 18 days since I last climaxed :( hahaha.

Ms

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 3:22:15 PM

truk

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Thanks for all the advice. As i said, she just mentioned to me that caning was her fav., she has not asked it of me. But if that's what she loves.............And i do wish to do my best...........

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 3:32:34 PM

T1981

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THAT'S the spirit! Just be communicative about it, and know that the fear isn't always a bad thing. You can work through that part. And as for the crying, well, I like being brought to tears - it's so carthetic for me - it's just that caning happens to the thing that brings me to tears the fastest and the hardest. He doesn't start out with just caning, it's a process.We build up to that, be it for mere endurance training or else a punishment. I couldn't handle it yet otherwise.

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 3:33:37 PM

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It's not so much as the implement as the person wielding it. If she knows you're new, and you've offered yourself to her for caning, I would hope she would go softly, experimenting, letting you learn the feel of it before going full force with you. Nothing says you have to reach the finish line the very first time out you're out of the gate.

I've had an experience where the Dom went all-out with a belt the first time were together, and not only did I realized that his style and mine didn't jive, I was left somewhat questioning myself - how masochistic was I if I couldn't take it, etc. ... even though I'd had a lot of other experiences with pain. I was able to fight back that questioning and maintain my confidence, but I think only because of past positive experiences.

Communication, as the ladies above have stressed, is what I'd recommend ... as well as a bit of caution on your part.

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 3:51:54 PM

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I can honestly say that I would love to be brought to tears by something like that - because I know it would just be highly unlikely. I don't mean that in any kind of macho way, I just tend to be very silent in terms of emotion... I hardly ever cry at anything. I guess this why I would see it as an ultimate sign of submission - though I know my owner wouldn't like it.

Ms

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RE: Cane pain - 12/31/2008 7:20:34 PM

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There are many different sensations you can get with canes, and many different types of canes. I myself have a good selection from canes to deliver a ‘massage’ to canes to deliver true burn and even wicked marks. A good start for someone new is something like a thicker lacquered wood that delivers a more massage-like feel. If you like this, try harder strokes to give more of a thud. Rhythmic caning to music can be quite enjoyable, and then move on to a rattan cane of small diameter to deliver more of a burn and leave marks. Even a newbie can enjoy a good cane if you start off slow. Best of luck to you-I myself LOVE canes. I am particularly fond of canes4pain.

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 1:07:29 AM

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OK maybe I'll sound too nervous nelly..but I look through this thread pretty closely and I might have missed something, but I didn't see the OP say whether or not he had played with this "potential owner" before, he was refering to her "list". Does he mean the list here on CM or did she give him a list? Have they played together yet?
I marvel at what subs from CM offer to do for me, it makes me blanch because they have never seen me play. One guy has been begging me to cane him for 8 months? Since the day I arrived.
It's so not a good idea to please someone you don't even know, have never seen in play, have no references on. Obviously I won't do that caning because I am not proficient enough yet at it to take a risk, but...is this mistress going to be careful with you, take things slowly?
Could be overreacting of course, but something about this makes me nervous.

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 11:01:58 AM

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No, i don't feel you are over-acting. We have met, went very well. Have not played, she is visiting Mon, but not sure what this entails, Her mssg on caning was thru personal mail, not here. Realize, i don't wish to get into this serious of pain from the git-go, but want to show her my willingness. She is also a ProDomme, so i would hope her exp is vastly more than mine. But we are not in a client relationship, she wishes for a new personall slave. This week, you may well see a new thread, me declaring myself as owned!

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 11:32:27 AM

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I always thought there was no way I could handle a caning. But then i experienced it, with several sizes used for demonstration purposes. Personally I loved it. I found it very easy to take. Now put a slapper or something else that is just plain "stingy" in someones hand to use on me and i will be whimpering and begging in no time. As a domme I personally enjoy seeing someone being pushed. It's a fine line, but no one wants to push over the edge. That's a great way to break someone and no one wants to play with broken toys.

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 11:43:10 AM

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I really hope that you will not declare yourself owned after only meeting a person a few times, and playing once. It's so easy to get swept up in the passion and excitement of the moment... allow yourself time to think clearly, and don't make a commitment until you know each other.

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 12:12:32 PM

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Agreed, is very easy to be swept away. But we have been communicating for quite some time, seem to click very well. Am a novice at being a slave, but not bdsm. i showed some hesitamce at first, and she backed of quickly! Good sign, yes?
Also, very good news. She's read these posts, and has said she would never use the cane without permision. And maybe not even then!! Another good sign!

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RE: Cane pain - 1/1/2009 12:36:16 PM

T1981

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I just had to jump in here and share something - so far we've been using dowel rods, but just a little bit ago he used a plastic mini-blind rod and not only was it MUCH easier to handle, the stingy impact was sweeeeeeet. It was the first time I haven't been terrified of caning.

*sighs in contentment*

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