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First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 7:59:28 AM   
typesgirl


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Hello all! my Master and i are considering a visit to a BDSM club soon and I'd appreciate any advice about
1. Topics you should discuss before the first visit
2. What i can expect at the club. What are they really like?

We've been in a 24/7 relationship for over a year now and He is much more experienced than i am but neither of us has ever been to a club. We're very comfortable with each other and have excellent communication. We both agree that we'd like to try a club to push my comfort with my own sexuality a bit and we are also considering whether we would enjoy public scening.

Also, if anyone has been to the club in Fort Wayne IN or the two in Chicago and has advice/opinions i'd appreciate those as well.

Thanks in advance!
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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 8:10:04 AM   
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quote:

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1. Topics you should discuss before the first visit

Price? hours? fire play? sex play? street legal dress? music?
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2. What i can expect at the club. What are they really like?

60% of the people will be standing around, socializing, smoking, not playing at all.

The other 40% will be having fun playing at the stations.

Most people will be in black or red, sexy/stripper/slutty type stuff, pvc, leather, corsets, etc. Unless I'm there and then it's likely to be green or chain mail or a ball gown.

Be respectful, don't touch toys or people without asking first, don't walk into scenes, don't talk loudly near scenes.

Otherwise, go and have a great time. Get to meet new people. Everyone at that club at some point had their "first time" too.



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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 8:45:14 AM   
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with some bdsm clicks the topic of converation can be any thing from how to care for plants to how to make a sub safe word in a few seconds so it realy depends on what the differnt people are into and with the varity of walks off life that people come from

if you know some wair who has been to the club your going to ask what goes on.

also some places can be bad news some places don't have a large enough play area and set up pla any ways and a friend of mine allmost got hit with a flogger and the event was incupervised

< Message edited by AlderTheKitty -- 1/3/2006 8:49:48 AM >


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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 9:23:32 AM   
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quote:

1. Topics you should discuss before the first visit


what sort of behavior Master expects from you---e.g. for this slave, Master said "NO giggling and/or pointing at people"

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2. What i can expect at the club. What are they really like?


it's not like there is only ONE, or that they are all a franchise like McDonald's. this slave has no idea how anyone could come up with a broad sweeping generalization about them ALL, except that every one this slave has ever been to has been a complete and total BLAST!!!!(thank you, Master!!), has at least ONE St. Andrew's cross and there is going to be someone at the door checking your ID, taking your money and requiring you to read and understand the particular rules that apply to that club as well as sign a paper stating you are old enough and understand the rules.


this slave has experienced many MORE differences than similarities including atmosphere, rules and percentages of people playing/socializing---some clubs will have a certain clientele that they cater to on particular nights. for example, one of the clubs that we frequent has a FemDom night on Fridays. another club we have gone to strictly prohibits any type of penis/vagina contact, but doesn't prohibit orgasms!!! Some clubs have informal gatherings during the day where you can attend a workshop, tour the facility and ask questions. Some clubs are professional dungeons that have play parties on certain nights.

the best advice this slave could give you is GO!!!! to as many as you can find in your area and experience it for yourself!! oh yes, and kindly get back to us and let us know how the clubs are in your neck of the woods--the ones here in LA are FANTASTIC!

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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 9:37:44 AM   
typesgirl


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Thanks to all who have already responded with really helpful advice.

I think I also wondered what limits you and your Master might have discussed before your first public scene. Maybe He and i are over planning but I wonder if you talked about whether He/She would allow others to join and in what capacity, how to handle being propositioned etc....We both agree that we shouldn't set too many hard limits and let ourselves just experience it but i also don't want to go in without a kind of plan. i would hate to have to tell another couple, for example, to wait a few minutes while Master and I slip off to discuss something that we hadn't anticipated if it can be avoided. Isn't it better to plan, experience, and then discuss afterward?

Also, while i know everyone is new at some point, i would hate to offend with my behavior. I'm a well behaved sub so i know i wouldn't do anything purposefully offensive, but for example, would it be considered rude if Master and i only watched and socialized the first time at a club? Would we be considered gawkers?

Thanks again!

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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 9:41:08 AM   
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Master and I slip off to discuss something that we hadn't anticipated if it can be avoided. Isn't it better to plan, experience, and then discuss afterward?

If you are planning on playing differently in public than you do at home, or including other people, you should definitely discuss what that means and how you will go about it.
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Also, while i know everyone is new at some point, i would hate to offend with my behavior. I'm a well behaved sub so i know i wouldn't do anything purposefully offensive, but for example, would it be considered rude if Master and i only watched and socialized the first time at a club? Would we be considered gawkers?

Thanks again!

Read above. A large chunk of people don't play at all, just watch. Yes you might be considered gawkers, but if you make an effort to talk to new people and make friends, that won't be a problem.

As far as behavior, act like you would if you were going to a business dinner with lots of people you didn't know.


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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 10:27:06 AM   
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quote:

1. Topics you should discuss before the first visit
2. What i can expect at the club. What are they really like?


First, most clubs have an orientation session that you must attend before playing at the club. These meetings will either take place an hour or so before a scheduled play time or very often on a separate day. During orientation the rules of the club will be explained and a tour of the facilities given.

If orientation takes place on a separate day, that should give you and your Dom adequate time to discuss anything that you are apprehensive about before going to actually play at the club. If orientation occurs just before a play time, may i suggest that for the first time you just watch. Get a feel for the facility. Make sure you are comfortable with the rules, and make sure the rules are being enforced properly. Then you can decide if this is a place where you might wish to play, and you can discuss what types of play you will be comfortable in doing at the club.

A club will most likely have separate areas for different kinds of play. There is most likely the central dungeon area with St Andrews crosses and other equipment. Anything involving the possibility of blood should have it's own separate area. The club where i have been has a separate room for those who wish to engage in sex and also a small dark room designated for aftercare. There is usually a social area where one can chat and meet others. There should be DM's on duty to answer questions, make sure rules are enforced, and to offer assistance when required.

During a scene at a club, your play space is your own private area. No one should enter that area while you play. People most likely will not be gathered around gawking at you or your scene. Of course, people will be watching as i sometimes watch a scene from a distance. If i wish to comment on a scene i'm watching, i'll do it in a quiet voice that only my partner might hear and will not be heard by those involved in the scene. A big rule for any club is that no one touches someone else's toys. If you see something you would like to examine more closely, wait until the scene is over before asking questions or asking to look at the toy.

Anyway, after you've found a club where you feel comfortable...go there, have fun. In the end it's the having fun that counts whether at home or at a club.





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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 11:08:29 AM   
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quote:

Also, while i know everyone is new at some point, i would hate to offend with my behavior. I'm a well behaved sub so i know i wouldn't do anything purposefully offensive, but for example, would it be considered rude if Master and i only watched and socialized the first time at a club? Would we be considered gawkers?


types girl,
My beth provided a nice general overview of "club play". Let me try to give you some insight and maybe some comfort regarding these questions.

Worrying about being a "gawker" is the same as worrying about your weight, costume, or appearance; it will matter more to you than anyone in attendance. Think of it in the same terms as a high school dance. Early in the evening the dance floor maybe empty but by the end of the night everyone is out there raising their hands to the tune of "CELEBRATE Good Times - COME ON!!....It's a celebration!!" Okay, I know the reference dates me, but the point is relax. Play - don't play, just enjoy the experience. In fact, I'd suggest to you the same as beth & I suggest when we escort people and couples to clubs; plan on NOT playing. So far we are pleased to report that this advise has been ignored 100% of the time! The reason? You quickly realize that nobody is "taking notes" of what you are doing. No one cares what you look like or what you are doing, qualified to say that you are following the "house rules". By the way, usually you are not only required to read and sign a statement that you understand and will observe the rules, but they are usually posted in and around the club. The atmosphere is so electric and erotic, that it's difficult to not join in the fun.

"Joining the fun", raises you other concern.
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i would hate to have to tell another couple, for example, to wait a few minutes while Master and I slip off to discuss something that we hadn't anticipated if it can be avoided. Isn't it better to plan, experience, and then discuss afterward?


With this being the first time for both of you anticipate not planning for every situation that comes up. BDSM clubs are NOT swingers clubs, contrary to what's assumed. Having been to both, we've never felt pressed at either venue, but swingers are more touchy feely. BDSM club attendees have exhibited more respect for protocol. The rule; "Only play and touch the toys that you brought with you unless you have been given expressed permission"; extends to human "toys". Your scene will be controlled by your Master. It's unusual (Never happened to us) for someone to go up to him during a scene and ask to join.

Most clubs have social areas where you get to chat with others. Some people maintain very high protocol but most are "just people". Your Master should introduce himself and you by the name you want to be called. In our case, it's our first names, without the "lord", "master" or any prefix title. The reason is, I am only "Master" to beth, it's only important that she refer to me in that manner. Sure some submissives refer to me as "master" but in my case, I correct them. If their Master/Mistress require titles be used, I ask that they use "sir" if need be, but not master. beth addresses people in the manner they are introduced, formally until given permission to do otherwise. That's my rule; yours should be between you and your Master.

If people weren't wearing leather or in various stage of undress and/or naked with crop marks on their ass, you could be socializing as you would as Starbucks. Remember your Master is your Master not every other submissive in attendance. Similarly you are his slave and no one else's. If during conversation you felt you had to discuss something between the two of you outside of earshot of the person making the request - do so! Maybe it will be a situation where you've witness someone do an incredible single tail scene and your Master has no experience. If you happen to get into a conversation with the expert, he may offer you the chance to experience it yourself, while, in exchange your Master gets to play with his submissive. Now you may have gone in with the idea that you would NEVER do this but now it seems like fun. Talking it over is a good idea. Sure your Master has the ultimate "right" but as I say, if you just met someone would you throw him the keys to your Lamborghini if he asked for them? My slave is worth much more than any car to me. It isn't a insult to be denied access.

Here's an idea you can use in this situation. Although beth and I never used safe-words during play, when we first started to attend public parties I gave her one to say in the event that she was being "overloaded" or overwhelmed by what was occurring around her. When we met, I had been attending public clubs for many years. she had no experience and was VERY innocent and naive. I see she remembers the "don't point & try not to giggle" rule but just as important was making sure that the first experiences weren't too traumatic for her. I told her that if she felt she couldn't take it or had to leave, she was to say; "i have to call my mom she wasn't feeling well this morning." (Truth be told, I forgot exactly what word/phase I told her, but we had one!) That type of neutral comment in public wouldn't be noticed for it's real intent, and it made us both more comfortable early in the relationship when my ability to "read" her wasn't as developed.

The best plan to have is to plan on having FUN! Whatever that definition is for the both of you. Keep your mind open to the fact that the definition may change during the evening.

Good LUCK! ENJOY!! And as beth requested, please report back.

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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 2:39:38 PM   
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I had my first club experience at Paddles in NYC back in the spring. I was nervous, but in an excited, and of course, curious way. There was no way I would wear anything but my street clothes....but I packed a bag anyway, lol. I had decided beforehand that there was NO WAY I'd be naked in public....MAYBE bare my ass for a spanking, but that was IT! Everytime my partner suggested something we might do if I felt comfortable, I'd agree to a maybe, but inside thought, "No way!!!"

Well, I have to say, for it being New York, the people there were surprisingly friendly and one guy walked us around and told us about the place and the activities it sponsored. They made me (my partner had been there many times) feel relaxed and comfy. I decided to go ahead and change into the corset, stockings and heels that there was "no way!" I was going to put on, but had packed "just in case" We went back to a side room, but to my horror, about a dozen people followed....to watch! My partner said, "That's what they usually do here, should I ask them to leave?" I decided that I didn't want to be a puss, so I took a deep breath and said it was okay. He added a blindfold (his black silk necktie) and eventually removed all the lingerie, except for the ruffly thong thingy. (Maybe they were my big girl panties!) My arms were bound overhead in leather cuffs and he used several crops and whips on me. I don't know if it was the subspace or if the showbiz bug bit me, but when I heard people applauding, and one gentleman kept saying, "You're a lucky man!" over and over, well.......I felt like a freaking goddess! I found myself moaning a little louder (though it was very sincere moaning!) and letting my head loll backwards so my hair would brush my butt.....okay, I'm a ham. But I positively LOVED it!

So, as Merc said, plan NOT to do anything if it makes you more at ease. Just go, get the feel of the place and the people there. Since the club on the Big Bad East Coast was very friendly, I'm sure a midwest club will be even more so! But pack a bag and be prepared just in case you get caught up in the atmosphere, like I did!

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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/3/2006 3:12:03 PM   
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WHAT???
I can't point and giggle?

I'm gonna hafta rethink this whole BDSM thing.


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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/4/2006 3:00:53 AM   
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Mercnbeth,

I would like to thank you for saving me alot of typing. I agree with your overview of going to a club. The only difference the clubs I have visited are on the east coast but I guess most are all the same no matter where they are.

Not swingers clubs, don't worry about watching a scene (if people are playing at a club chances are they like being watched) be respectful (don't interupt a scene or touch others toys) and by all means we are all in the same lifestyle be friendly chances are you will make some friends and learn a bunch. Last but not least follow the rules.

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RE: First time BDSM club advice - 1/4/2006 6:18:58 AM   
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Thanks so much for all of these thoughful responses. You've all been so helpful. I'll be sure to report back once we've been to the local club.
Thanks again!
typesgirl

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