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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 3:31:25 PM   
Irishknight


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Status: offline 		If its just sex for money with no relationship, then its prostitution.  If there is something more than a business relationship, its not.  Just my 2 cents.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 3:34:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		So if it is RocknRoll and "you get your money for nothing and your chicks for free" then what is it?

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 3:42:06 PM   
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So if it is RocknRoll and "you get your money for nothing and your chicks for free"  then what is it?

It's a good day and a story to tell my friends over beers.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 3:48:25 PM   
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My friend and I got into an argument earlier over whether or not sugardaddy relationships are prostitution.

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with prostitution assuming all parties entered the situation willingly. That being said, I think it's silly to insist that sex in exchange for money isn't always prostitution. It doesn't matter if it's a regular arrangment, if there are funds exchanged, it's hookery.

What do you guys think?

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I guess the answer is yes...and no...to describe a woman being kept by a man as being a prostitute.  If it's purely sexual, no strings attached, yep..sounds like a lucky hooker to me.  If it's more romantic and could be called a
"relationship" than I don't think that's prostitution. 
Prostitution is a career path for a lot of women ( and men too) that has been in disrepute by mainstream people that I think have no idea of the value of an experienced woman and her ability to really understand the needs of the man with her.  It's as if every nerve ending on her skin is totally tuned in to the plus and minus of the situation and she knows exactly what buttons to push before an indicator light has to go on.  American prostitutes, working girls, don't have the formal training once afforded the Japanese Geisha, but in so many respects they accomplish the same thing....make a man feel as if HE is the most important being in their lives for the time they are together.  I'm not talking about "slam bam, thank you man" fuck me in the car street walkers..but "on call" pro's who are true professionals in experience and ability, and not professional because they do it for a living.  Some of the worst "prostitutes" I have seen were not woman..but male stockbrokers who prostituted themselves for a dollar, churned and burned accounts, and than prospected for new accounts. I've seen more "honor" among working girls than hookers on Wall Street with a NYSE license.  Sorry if I went off the subject OP but some of my best friends have been "prostitutes".

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 4:30:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BbwCanaDomme

My friend and I got into an argument earlier over whether or not sugardaddy relationships are prostitution.

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with prostitution assuming all parties entered the situation willingly. That being said, I think it's silly to insist that sex in exchange for money isn't always prostitution. It doesn't matter if it's a regular arrangment, if there are funds exchanged, it's hookery.

What do you guys think?

If we are talking about a woman seeking a sugardaddy then finding one...is merely looking for and obtaining a permanent buyer.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/5/2009 7:39:59 PM   
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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 12:24:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's too true, though...

my boyfriend buys dinner and lunch twice a week for the both of us, occasionally picks up the whole tab when we're at a place like Target or Walmart, regardless of how much is his vs. mine, ended up going all out for Christmas, and purchases various other things for me quite frequently. 

and we sleep together...

if that makes me a prostitute, then so be it.

if i were ever really struggling, he'd make ends meet for me til i could do it on my own again (and he has) but goodness knows i've done the same for him. 

when i had the kick ass job, i paid his car payment, because he had more outflow than income and times were tough.  when i lost my job and had no place to go, he housed me and fed me until things came together again. 

i think it's all prostitution, it's only a matter of how that money changes hands...

sometimes getting paid is equivalent to him doing some laundry or making the bed-- or it's $200 on the nightstand as he's on his way out. 



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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 12:35:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like the way you think LittleMissModern.
That kind of prostitution I can totally get down with. The other type, I don't do because I will not have a man telling me when I will be putting out (or doing anything else) even if he is giving me money. M

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 4:53:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe we could speak of fractional prostitution dependent on concrete relationship. It would end the black and white argument regarding this case, professional domination, financial domination and so on.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 5:24:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

If its just sex for money with no relationship, then its prostitution.  If there is something more than a business relationship, its not.  Just my 2 cents.


Hmm I think that prostitutes can and do have relationships with their clients, not all of course but some, I am friends with an escort who has maintained relationships past them being clients.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 6:49:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have what some call a 'sugardaddy' without any sex, so I guess I am not a whore.

As for it being prostitution for some who screw that kind of guy, it is possible.  Very difficult question, since some want conversation or other bla bla, very deep to know what goes on in the minds of others.

If a man just wants conversation isn't that the same as if a gal worked at a nursing home and spoke to the ol' folks for minimum wage???  Why is it any different if they guy was rich and paid her more and gave her extra yummy gifts??

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 6:58:04 AM   
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IIf a man just wants conversation isn't that the same as if a gal worked at a nursing home and spoke to the ol' folks for minimum wage??? 


Is that actually a job?



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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 7:29:22 AM   
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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 7:30:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow never heard of that before, i mean you get volunteers who do it in my nursing home but not as a proper job, theres my thing learned for the day :D

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 7:57:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Home care workers do it every day for pay.  They have no nursing lisc. nor can they do any day to day physical care.  My mother worked 16 years at a vetarans hospital as a paid employee at a nursing home for this kind of care. Now she is in that very home as a resident.  Are you thinking her job didn't exist and I made it up? weird.

I had to read that again to review your intended insult:

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i mean you get volunteers who do it in my nursing home but not as a proper job,  


What do you mean YOUR nursing home? Do you own one? If so...

PROPER JOB? excuse me?  My mother was Air force, then VON Victoria Order of Nurses http://www.von.ca/about.html for 42 years years and and you say her job was not PROPER??? 

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 9:06:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry for the hijack OP, but you...colourred whoever you are (and you have no profile)....

If you want to insult me go ahead.  Do NOT ever insult my mother. What kind of lowlife implies they work in or own a nursing home yet implies no employees come in just to handhold or help the residents eat, drink or bathe?

Can you take an insult to a lower level? Yuk.

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 10:17:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry I wasnt meaning to be insulting, I said proper because you said paid a minimum wage voluntary work is of course very very valuable I didnt mean to imply otherwise but its not a paid job, sorry that you were offended.

I work in a nursing home, thats why I asked and yea employees do come in and bathe and help to feed, in fact thats what i do, but im not paid to 'come in and talk to them' which was what you were talking about

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 10:28:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not a prostitute.  My Man doesn't have enough money. lol 

However, I do not believe that all with a Sugar Daddy are hookers.  I used to have a sugar daddy. Before we ever met.  He made me an email account on his so that I could get online and talk to him since we couldn't afford to keep ours up and running.  He would have sent me anything that I needed when I needed it.  all I'd have to do is ask.  and there was no sex.

Ok. ok.  I DID end up meeting up with him.  He paid for the whole trip, sent me money for my train ticket and EVERYTHING. and yes, we did have sex.  So I was his hooker for that weekend! And High dollar too! lmao

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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 3:56:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am not sure what you mean by this.  Do you mean pay someone in proportion for the time and energy given? 

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ORIGINAL: awmslave
Maybe we could speak of fractional prostitution dependent on concrete relationship. It would end the black and white argument regarding this case, professional domination, financial domination and so on.


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RE: Is it ever not prostitution? - 1/6/2009 6:51:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		My mother had a friend who had a relationship for about 30 years with this guy. They never got married or lived together, and he earned a lot more than she did. So when he paid for her root canal, did that make her a prostitute because he gave her money and they also had sex together when her teeth weren't hurting? Not in my book.

Hell, my mother didn't work and my father earned a lot. But I don't think my mother was a prostitute for using a credit card he gave her even when she was just buying things for herself that he wasn't into.

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