Chaingang -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 9:57:26 PM)
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ORIGINAL: la90066 1. Subs should stop looking for one-thing (be it pain or use or whatever) because (i) they will desire more later, (ii) us Doms can certainly provide more than just ONE aspect of D/s, and (iii) the dynamic/power exchange is defined by the couple anyway, one should be looking at more than just type on a screen. I have honestly never met anyone or seriously corresponded with anyone as one dimensional as you describe. That such a person exists seems more bullshit than truth to me. No matter what the case is, that's not the sort of person to whom I would relate very well. quote:
ORIGINAL: la90066 2. Doms should be prepared for ALL the responsibilities of owning another (including financial), should focus on more than sex and actually LEARN about the sub they are talking to, should not communicate with her as if she is already HIS sub, should show some common sense in ensuring the bottom can fend for herself in the event she is released, and not to be a cheating bastard. People of our age have plenty of baggage I may want nothing to do with. So just because I want to relate to someone within a D/s context I am also somehow automatically a would-be submissive's sugardaddy? WTF? That idea seems clueless as hell, and is obviously specific to a very limited type of relationship - the type of which you may imagine and desire but for which I see plenty of real time problems. Plus, let me ask you - how do I both take care of her financially and also enable her to fend for herself? While those two things may not strictly be mutually exclusive, I can think of many examples in which they would be. So again, WTF? Is this quantum physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodinger's_Cat) such that the sub both has a job and can therefore fend for herself while simultaneously being my jobless slave? Maybe you could tell us precisely what you mean by financial responsibility. You also seem to lump all submissives, bottoms, and slaves into one thing with slippage between the terms - and I personally think all of those types are actually discrete aspects that lay on a continuum. So sorry, looks like sloppy thinking to me. A lot of us use these terms loosely sometimes, me included, but in context you have managed to say almost nothing because you could mean almost anything due to your imprecision. quote:
ORIGINAL: la90066 3. An explanation of what feeds the bad/rude behavior as both Doms and subs believe they need to ACT a certain way (based on the "fantasy" in order to be considered a "twue" Dom/Master or sub/slave or whatever. Seriously, who the fuck are you talking about? The person you described might be a HNG at best, in which case everything you just tried to explain is wasted anyway. Horny Net Guys and Gals could give a fuck about the lame-ass lessons you are attempting to share. quote:
ORIGINAL: la90066 4. D/s need not be one-dimensional. Everyone, Tops and bottoms, should seek a COMPLETE dynamic, otherwise it gets boring and the two of you will be off to find another before the final swat of the crop hits her ass. It occurs to me that this phrase "complete dynamic" is meaningless because it could mean all kinds of different things to different people. So you really haven't said anything in my view, just spouted a vague platitude. Sounds good, states nothing.
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