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miticantenslaved -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 5:43:40 PM)

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Oh, you bad girl. (Although I suspect we're on the same page.)

Where is your humor post?


click on Humour....then follow down to Confessions of a Witch and slave....enjoy!

~miti




MasterHyde -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 5:45:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FionaFineass

Hey! How come the post was titled Stupid subs and Dickhead Doms came second. Why not the other way around geeze and here I thought Doms were always first. LOL


Because the poster is a dom, and he was more frustrated with the subs than the dominants. After all, they're the ones who have been rejecting him. LOL

But it's OK, we ALL get rejected, and we ALL feel a need to rant about it sometimes. I saw a lot of my own frustrations in the original post, and I definitely identified some of my own perceptions regarding the people I've encountered here, and how some of them respond to me (ex. the comment about the dom how appears to be offering just what the sub says she's seeking, and yet gets ignored). I've felt that way a dozen times at least, and there's not much I can do about it.





teachu2bgood -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 6:18:14 PM)

Ohhh my I have thougt the same things a million times but never wanted to type so much.... Nope not a lazy Dom just a lousy typest. Although I did do a take off of you might be a red neck right after I listened to a submissive whine about her life. So here it is hope you like it.
You might be submissive if:

When doing something for someone it brings you happiness without expecting anything in return.

When you are told to do something it becomes the most important thing you could do for the day

You are not looking for your Dom to fix your life. Ie your broke and need a place to live, or worse yet want them to pay your bills for you.

You don’t believe the lifestyle is about you.

Sex is not why you submit.

Your breakfast does not consist of 14 anti depressants.

While in an S/m scene you not telling your top what to use and how to use it.

You think before challenging your Dominant.

You understand there are consequences to in appropriate behavior.

TV, bonbons, and bubble baths are not part of your daily routine


Have a great day everyone




Petruchio -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 6:30:42 PM)

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click on Humour....then follow down to Confessions of a Witch and slave....enjoy!


They were… Excellent! Hilarious! You are a handful, miti!

And such a bad, bad girl.




truesub4u -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 7:52:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: teachu2bgood

Ohhh my I have thougt the same things a million times but never wanted to type so much.... Nope not a lazy Dom just a lousy typest. Although I did do a take off of you might be a red neck right after I listened to a submissive whine about her life. So here it is hope you like it.
You might be submissive if:

When doing something for someone it brings you happiness without expecting anything in return.

When you are told to do something it becomes the most important thing you could do for the day

You are not looking for your Dom to fix your life. Ie your broke and need a place to live, or worse yet want them to pay your bills for you.

You don’t believe the lifestyle is about you.

Sex is not why you submit.

Your breakfast does not consist of 14 anti depressants.

While in an S/m scene you not telling your top what to use and how to use it.

You think before challenging your Dominant.

You understand there are consequences to in appropriate behavior.

TV, bonbons, and bubble baths are not part of your daily routine


Have a great day everyone



LMAO............ damn good post here. Not too damn lazy, jut a bad typist.

Oh and the "You Might Be A Submissive" ones were funny too.




Chaingang -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 9:57:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: la90066
1. Subs should stop looking for one-thing (be it pain or use or whatever) because (i) they will desire more later, (ii) us Doms can certainly provide more than just ONE aspect of D/s, and (iii) the dynamic/power exchange is defined by the couple anyway, one should be looking at more than just type on a screen.


I have honestly never met anyone or seriously corresponded with anyone as one dimensional as you describe. That such a person exists seems more bullshit than truth to me. No matter what the case is, that's not the sort of person to whom I would relate very well.

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ORIGINAL: la90066
2. Doms should be prepared for ALL the responsibilities of owning another (including financial), should focus on more than sex and actually LEARN about the sub they are talking to, should not communicate with her as if she is already HIS sub, should show some common sense in ensuring the bottom can fend for herself in the event she is released, and not to be a cheating bastard.


People of our age have plenty of baggage I may want nothing to do with. So just because I want to relate to someone within a D/s context I am also somehow automatically a would-be submissive's sugardaddy? WTF? That idea seems clueless as hell, and is obviously specific to a very limited type of relationship - the type of which you may imagine and desire but for which I see plenty of real time problems. Plus, let me ask you - how do I both take care of her financially and also enable her to fend for herself? While those two things may not strictly be mutually exclusive, I can think of many examples in which they would be. So again, WTF? Is this quantum physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodinger's_Cat) such that the sub both has a job and can therefore fend for herself while simultaneously being my jobless slave? Maybe you could tell us precisely what you mean by financial responsibility.

You also seem to lump all submissives, bottoms, and slaves into one thing with slippage between the terms - and I personally think all of those types are actually discrete aspects that lay on a continuum. So sorry, looks like sloppy thinking to me. A lot of us use these terms loosely sometimes, me included, but in context you have managed to say almost nothing because you could mean almost anything due to your imprecision.

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ORIGINAL: la90066
3. An explanation of what feeds the bad/rude behavior as both Doms and subs believe they need to ACT a certain way (based on the "fantasy" in order to be considered a "twue" Dom/Master or sub/slave or whatever.


Seriously, who the fuck are you talking about? The person you described might be a HNG at best, in which case everything you just tried to explain is wasted anyway. Horny Net Guys and Gals could give a fuck about the lame-ass lessons you are attempting to share.

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ORIGINAL: la90066
4. D/s need not be one-dimensional. Everyone, Tops and bottoms, should seek a COMPLETE dynamic, otherwise it gets boring and the two of you will be off to find another before the final swat of the crop hits her ass.


It occurs to me that this phrase "complete dynamic" is meaningless because it could mean all kinds of different things to different people. So you really haven't said anything in my view, just spouted a vague platitude. Sounds good, states nothing.




xxblushesxx -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/6/2006 10:22:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterHyde


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ORIGINAL: FionaFineass

Hey! How come the post was titled Stupid subs and Dickhead Doms came second. Why not the other way around geeze and here I thought Doms were always first. LOL


Because the poster is a dom, and he was more frustrated with the subs than the dominants. After all, they're the ones who have been rejecting him. LOL

But it's OK, we ALL get rejected, and we ALL feel a need to rant about it sometimes. I saw a lot of my own frustrations in the original post, and I definitely identified some of my own perceptions regarding the people I've encountered here, and how some of them respond to me (ex. the comment about the dom how appears to be offering just what the sub says she's seeking, and yet gets ignored). I've felt that way a dozen times at least, and there's not much I can do about it.




Uhm...okaaaayyyy.....

I really enjoyed LA's profile...in fact before today...(not gonna say when...but...I did respond to it)

I was the one rejected...

So, I guess...he prolly has quite a bit to choose from.

Not that I am above average or even average...(ok, maybe average) but...
anyway...LA has smart and kinda pretty girls that hit on him...(LOL)

It's not fun to admit, but, I was not his type...no biggie...

He does have a wonderful profile. And it's exactly what I am attracted to. Some submissives may want someone who comes across as more dominant...but...I think that stuff can wait...I want someone who is fun to be with, and is caring...(I figure most who call themselves dominant can show that side when it's time)

He is not gonna have a problem finding a great submissive...possibly maybe just finding the RIGHT one...

Good luck, LA...though I really don't think you'll need it!

Christina






la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:01:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesertRat

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ORIGINAL: la90066


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ORIGINAL: DesertRat

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

Funny how people think the OP's words were so harsh yet wise - all it turns out to be is whining about other people's whining. KISS, just stop whining altogether!

One person's truth is another person's whine...ho hum.


THANK YOU, Chaingang! I read this OP as a possible rejection rant...a really well written one, but still....



Well, then you'd be WRONG too...



Well, ever the scientist, I did say possible rejection rant. I'm still thanking Chaingang (and a few others) for injecting a little balance into the bulk of kudos. I admit that your rant contains many valid statements. It's just the scope that puts me off.

Bob



Yeah, you stated "possible" and I stated it was "wrong" -- so that should clear things up nicely.




la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:05:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

Lots of people seem to have found much to admire in this post, and I guess it's an interesting post ... so, well done ... I guess!

As of late, I've become so into the "live and let live" thing, I just have a hard time making a connection with rants, posts about HGN's, people bitching about online people, etc ... etc ... etc ...

So, I'll just play school teacher.

Subject Matter Selection - 2.5
Expressing Thoughts - 3.75
Promoting Controversy - 2.5 (would have been higher, but you failed to get flamed)
Connection with Readers - 3.9
Communication Skill - 1.0 (far too pedantic to be useful to those that need the advice)

Overall Grade - 2.73

Passing grade, but don't see "message board graduate school" in your future. [;)][;)]



Yeah, but it had a good beat and I could dance to it?!!

[:D] ha ha ha (shhhhh... I'm being silly... don't tell anyone)




la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:17:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: imtempting

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ORIGINAL: la90066

... And DICKHEAD Doms!!!


Having been involved in D/s for many years and read many posts/profiles here (as well as on other kink sites) by both Tops and bottoms (or whatever title you prefer), it never ceases to amaze me how absolutely stupid 90% of kinksters are -- here's why...




Wow, thanks for calling most people on here dumb, let me guess... The people that dont agree with your senseless rant is dumb and people that agree are the 10% of the intelligent people??

The thread should of been edited for offensive things. I dearly reject being perhaps one of the 10% by a person on an idiotic rant.



1. Oh you're welcome... Note: That I am not the ONLY person who feels this way, so then hmmm... Riddle me this, Batman... Kinda poo poos your premise, huh? la la la la la... (doing the Toppy dance)

2. Let me guess... You want to make a mountain out of a mole hill? Awww... Sorry... Again, note the responses of others -- obviously I'm not the ONLY one who shares these opinions. (does an encore of the Toppy dance)

3. Underoos on a bit tight? Tisk tisk... So then are YOU calling all the people in this thread who agreed with much of the OP "idiots", hmmm??? (oh what the hell... grabs Imtempting and drags to the dance floor and orders the the bottomy dance while I Toppy dance one more time)

[:D] hee hee hee





la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:26:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: krikket


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ORIGINAL: la90066
*Special Note: To you subs/slaves in your 20s & early 30s -- please seek out the subs/slaves in their late 30s and up. They've probably made the same mistakes you're making now. Talk to them and learn that you should be seeking MORE than just being someone's fuck hole. You may not believe this now, but you will later, and by then it will be significantly harder to find that special one. Choose wisely now!!!



While your entire post (and profile) make a great deal of sense, the one thing I'd like to add is that it would be nice for 1) tops past the age of about 40, could perhaps give the subs who are in the same age bracket (or older) a peek. I know that age isn't always a factor (or so I hear), but many times I read a profile and end up feeling like Whistler's Mother...lol. It might also be nice if a male dom in their 20/30's looked a little closer to their own age as well. I really do have a hang-up with seeing someone as my dom when I have children (and socks) older than they are..lol.

Thanks for your post, and Happy New Year to you and yours.

cheers
jimini




Speaking only for myself, just so you know, the reason I look to the younger bottoms is because I'd like to get married, have a family, etc. Many women 40+ have already gone down that road and simply aren't looking to re-live that aspect of their lives.

I don't know how many other Tops are thinking this as well, but that's why I look to those younger than me... Hope that helps, sugar pie?!! [:)]





la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:31:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Rassitter

Hmmm I must say I am a little surprised at all the attention this thread has gotten. I feel like most of it was a rant stating the obvious, and calling 90% of us stupid for not knowing it, with well over 90% of us agreeing with it. If I started a thread against murder would we all feel the need to chime in to agree! *laughs*

Like stated in a previous post, you are preaching to the choir. The people that you need to reach with this message still will not get it. *Sigh*

Then again, maybe I am just in a bad mood.


Well then carry the message to the masses man... I'll take care of HALF of the CollarMe crowd and you take the OTHER HALF.

BTW... I've got dibs on the FEMALE half, you can have the dudes... ([:)] ha ha ha I called it first!!!)





la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:34:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: miticantenslaved

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I thought I'd wear the "Retard" t-shirt.


*pouts*

are there any more?

*blinks in a moronic fashion*

~miti



I've got some extras... Y'all can borrow mine... I was a reall ASS when I was in my 20s and collected all those shirts -- but at least I had fun?!!

[:D] hee hee hee




la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:43:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Noah


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The fact that you actually have a lot of good sense and excellent perspectives to bring up does not excuse condescension and name calling.

But then I think a lot of people think the same about some of my own posts.


It TOTALLY excuses the condescension and name calling. Encore!

He didn't call you or you a name, after all. And it was tongue-in-cheek, not bitter. The names called were all for people who. If someone read that post and took personal offense, well, better just check and see if you left your coffee machine on.

I think some of the post was bullshit by the way but bullshit plainly and unapologetically stated trumps lofty self-deluded meandering and interminable rehashing of opinions that weren't even interesting when the person they were borrowed from said them on some half-assed kink website ten years ago.

So is that a Gibson or an Epiphone? In either case, keep posting, la.




First, I owe you a beer.

Second, BITE YOUR TONGUE, MAN?!! It's a Les Paul (Standard) -- built in 1979, solid (instead of sandwhiched) mahogany back, arched maple top, stock Gibson pick-up in the neck position and hand-wound Duncan Custom-Custom pick-up (from Seymour himself) in the bridge. Oh, and the lacquer is all worn off the back of the neck from THOUSANDS of hours of guitar playing back in the day (I used to practice 6-8 hours a day, play out, record, etc.), but can't do that anymore and still pay the mortgage, ya know?

[:)]




la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:46:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FionaFineass

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Well, the op was obviously looking for attention with that opening line


Hey! How come the post was titled Stupid subs and Dickhead Doms came second. Why not the other way around geeze and here I thought Doms were always first. LOL


Marketing/Advertising decsion... Felt it would make a better headline grabber leading with the subs instead of the Doms. Don't worry, I cleared with "corporate" before posting. [;)]





la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 12:54:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterHyde


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ORIGINAL: FionaFineass

Hey! How come the post was titled Stupid subs and Dickhead Doms came second. Why not the other way around geeze and here I thought Doms were always first. LOL


Because the poster is a dom, and he was more frustrated with the subs than the dominants. After all, they're the ones who have been rejecting him. LOL

But it's OK, we ALL get rejected, and we ALL feel a need to rant about it sometimes. I saw a lot of my own frustrations in the original post, and I definitely identified some of my own perceptions regarding the people I've encountered here, and how some of them respond to me (ex. the comment about the dom how appears to be offering just what the sub says she's seeking, and yet gets ignored). I've felt that way a dozen times at least, and there's not much I can do about it.



Ever hear that expression about never "assuming" because it makes an ass out of you and... Oh never mind... (insert Rolls Eyes icon here)

Don't quit your day job -- swami isn't working for ya there, champ. [;)]







la90066 -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 1:03:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx


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ORIGINAL: MasterHyde


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ORIGINAL: FionaFineass

Hey! How come the post was titled Stupid subs and Dickhead Doms came second. Why not the other way around geeze and here I thought Doms were always first. LOL


Because the poster is a dom, and he was more frustrated with the subs than the dominants. After all, they're the ones who have been rejecting him. LOL

But it's OK, we ALL get rejected, and we ALL feel a need to rant about it sometimes. I saw a lot of my own frustrations in the original post, and I definitely identified some of my own perceptions regarding the people I've encountered here, and how some of them respond to me (ex. the comment about the dom how appears to be offering just what the sub says she's seeking, and yet gets ignored). I've felt that way a dozen times at least, and there's not much I can do about it.




Uhm...okaaaayyyy.....

I really enjoyed LA's profile...in fact before today...(not gonna say when...but...I did respond to it)

I was the one rejected...

So, I guess...he prolly has quite a bit to choose from.

Not that I am above average or even average...(ok, maybe average) but...
anyway...LA has smart and kinda pretty girls that hit on him...(LOL)

It's not fun to admit, but, I was not his type...no biggie...

He does have a wonderful profile. And it's exactly what I am attracted to. Some submissives may want someone who comes across as more dominant...but...I think that stuff can wait...I want someone who is fun to be with, and is caring...(I figure most who call themselves dominant can show that side when it's time)

He is not gonna have a problem finding a great submissive...possibly maybe just finding the RIGHT one...

Good luck, LA...though I really don't think you'll need it!

Christina




Christina... MY HERO... I feel so "defended" -- shit... what's the D/s world coming to when the SUBS start kicking asses and taking names?!!

Thanks for watching my back there, sugar pants!!! I owe ya a pint of Ben & Jerry's... What's it gonna be, "Chunky Monkey", "Cherry Garcia" or ???

[:D] hee hee hee


BTW... I didn't "reject" ya, honey-bunny, I didn't want to hurt your heart because you're a VERY NICE girl, little one. And I will publicly say I'm VERY sorry if it came off that way -- VERY sorry... Certainly NEVER my intent, chickie pants. Friends, ok?!! (((hug)))





CaptainsPet -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 1:51:19 AM)

While some of your points are valid, I found the tone overly harsh. Is it necessary to refer to "people" as idiots, retards, or stupid in order to make your points? Does it lend any more validity or credibility to your words? I'm curious, do you believe all "property" is of equal value? I mean, might there not be more (or less) caring for a sub/slave vs. a vehicle? Sadly, I must say, not all Doms DO prize what they own...regardless if it is a car or a human being. As a sub, I actually prefer a Dom who appreciates the softer side of BDSM. Not all subs/slaves prefer a heavy hand. I would never assume love/compassion equals a less powerful dynamic. Realistically speaking, no one here is obligated to "get to know" anyone, even if your profile is brilliant and your communications respectful. I use "blocking" as a last resort, for those too thick to take a "kindly worded" hint. It is not my intention to be unnecessarily cruel...I leave that to the sadists.
~a "not stupid" sub~[:)]




ExistentialSteel -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 2:07:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: la90066
Yeah, but it had a good beat and I could dance to it?!!


Haha, that was in my post on here. Yeah, I thought the same thing when I read Caitlyn's post that you were responding to. Good beat, average grade, yeah, we were thinking alike. Seriously, as they say, I found it interesting the way this all played out from the God and Country OP. Seriously, again, you knew how to create a thread that would provoke interest and I'll tip my Domly aluminum foil hat to you on that.

Edit: damn the typos...full speed ahead.




ExistentialSteel -> RE: STUPID Subs... (1/7/2006 2:14:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: la90066
(I used to practice 6-8 hours a day, play out, record, etc.)


How's your hearing?




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