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mc1234 -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 3:28:40 PM)
I have no issues with my Dominant showing submission to his God - it's something I respect in him.

littlewonder -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 3:40:37 PM)
Since God is the ultimate authority and I am a Christian and tend to date men who are the same as myself spiritually..nope, I would have no problem at all and tend to find such who do bow to God to be sexy and get my utmost respect. Now if he were to submit to another human being...well that's just simply not what I"m attracted to and wouldn't be interested in such a man.

DavanKael -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 3:43:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: Are there any here who would have an issue with their Dom submitting to a higher authority? if all of a sudden He decided to submit to a higher authority such as the pope, or an itinerent preacher passing through town, another Jim Jones, whomever, it would definitely take our relationship in a different direction than it is going now. this slave can't imagine it, and can't imagine how it would turn out. As it is, our relationship is this slave's spiritual guide, something that she believes the Great Architect of the Universe intended for her to be a part of...and not a part of any organized religion...so for Him to submit to another man/woman's religious dogma would mean this slave would have that "Master" to serve, as well. for Him to acknowledge a Great Architecht to our universe in His own spiritual way, without having to buy into all the religious dogma set up by men and passed off to the masses as the will of God, OR ELSE...no sweat.[:)] the "other" beth[;)] Beautifully said, Beth. I personally don't resonate with separating D/s (Or any other aspect of self) from the whole, of which spirituality may be a part. Davan

CallMePatches -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 3:44:18 PM)
I guess I'm the opposite when it comes to a Dom submitting to a higher power. If the person I'm with can't or wont bend his knees to something greater than himself then I want nothing to do with him.

hereyesruponyou -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 4:05:35 PM)
I think it is a good idea for religion to be at least discussed in relation to basic ideas more than values to me. Lots of people give themselves titles such as jew, christian, wiccan etc..., but do they really follow all that their religion requires and stands for? no guarantee there. Personally i am not a religious person. Never will be. Have no issues with spirituality in it's many guises, but man made religion is just filled with all the foibles that people are riddled with. On the other hand, i do not feel the need to tell anyone else how they should feel in relation to this. I know people who get alot out of their religion and i am happy for them. Just because it doesn't work for me, doesn't mean it is wrong at all. My pet is allowed to worship as he chooses, as long as he does it on his own time and doesn't foist his beliefs on me. I'm not sure how i would feel submitting to someone who bowed to a god i could not follow as well. Maybe that is why i am domme

Sexycelticlady -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 5:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tinkerer I'd actually be more comfortable with my owner submitting to that authority than not. Those who do and have actual faith (walking the walk, not just talking the talk), seem to have a lot more stability in their lives than others. ....Er, they seem to be more stable in dealing with life. I'd be a bit more at ease knowing they had a base to their morals like that. (After all, what determines what is "right" and wrong"?) As others have said, I also have found the opposite to be true. As for the final question - objective reasoning is more than capable or determining right and wrong. I would not have an issue with my Dom submitting to another and would actually be pretty impressed. I would have an issue with Him submitting to a God, in my opinion that woud be the result of Him abdicating His ability to think and make decisions for Himself. What I think is far more important is people finding others who share their own belief system, then I doubt it would be an issue.

DesFIP -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 5:37:08 PM)
I go to shul so why shouldn't he attend if he wants to? What I couldn't deal with is someone who insisted I convert. I have memories of high school of someone telling me very seriously that it was a pity I'm Jewish, because although they liked me a lot, obviously I was going to burn in hell. That kind of nonsense is where I draw the line.

bamagirl4u -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 5:54:54 PM)
To me, bowing to a Master/Dom is different from bowing on my knees to God in prayer. And yes, I hit my knees quite often. I don't press my religion on anyone, it is mine and personal....but...if he were to also feel the need to bow in prayer, I have no issue with that. In fact, I think I would respect him a lot more. Just my thoughts...I think that is all up to the person or persons in the relationship. Talk about it before hand so no one gets upset.

LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/16/2009 7:27:24 PM)
what is wrong with bowing to god after all we are only human it shows great charector kudos to you who stand up for what you beleave a coward hides behind lies a rightous person hides nothing

IronBear -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 7:26:58 AM)
For me it is just plain old fashon good manners to make some form of obeisance to what ever deity/ies you may worshipor acknowledge. This is just as mich a matter of good manners as taking of you hat or bowing slightly when greeting a lady and offering your hand when meeting a male isn't it?

Roselaure -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 9:48:55 AM)
Everyone serves somebody. I'm not religious, but have no objection to those who are...unless they mess with me.

mummyman321 -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 10:53:10 AM)
For me, I do not see bowing to God as an act of submission. I see it as faith and belief in GOD and his teachings.

Opalescence -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 11:21:12 AM)
Yes and no. I'm a very logic based person (I have to see it to believe it type thing) and while I'm certainly spiritual, I don't do the religion thing. So, within that, if my Owner was super religious it would not work for me. That being said, I don't have an issue with prayer or any such thing.

NihilusZero -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 11:36:57 AM)
The religious aspect of this aside, I'm not necessarily fond of relationships where anything other than the relationship itself is the first priority.

MlordTSKsWench -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 11:45:51 AM)
What NihilusZero said... Seriously I think, um if we are all getting along cozy, and I like the way I'm dommed; why should religious aspects or beliefs enter in? If I don't agree with them, and I am told I must submit to the doctrine anyway... Yeah that would probably cause issues. Otherwise I think the whole of being together is what should be measured in deciding a good fit. Now I am not saying we wouldn't talk out our religious beliefs. But am I going to like this person less for being or not being Religious, for bowing or not bowing to the dietie(s) He chooses to believe or not believe in? Not unless it creates differences in our morals and basic actions. Then again I have considered dating switches, so that makes me different. :P TSKs wench.

popeye1250 -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 11:52:15 AM)
Steven, as a recovering Catholic I don't think "G-D" would want us bowing and scraping like the preists and nuns taught us. Who would want to go to heaven if all you did was worship saints all the time? Fuck that! I hope "G-D" is like oh,....Shecky Green, or better yet, Buddy Hacket, laughing and making jokes all the time and inviting everyone to all the orgies! "HEY! Have you heard the one about....." "God! That "GOD's" a scream isn't he? He has the BEST jokes!" "Look! Now he's changed himself to look like George Burns!!!" I really think "G-D" invented humans to amuse himself! I think "G-D" would get bored real quick with people bowing down and prostrating themselves. "Get the fuck up! Let's go have a few beers and you can tell me your "life's story!" "I might have missed a few things!" "WHAT!!!???" "Just kidding!" "GOTCHA!"

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 12:00:50 PM)
For me I determine what is right and wrong. If I can live with myself after doing it, and it's not breaking a law, like not stealing then it's right to do it. IF I can't live with myself after doing it, and it does break a law, like stealing it's wrong I won't do it. quote: ORIGINAL: Tinkerer I'd actually be more comfortable with my owner submitting to that authority than not. Those who do and have actual faith (walking the walk, not just talking the talk), seem to have a lot more stability in their lives than others. ....Er, they seem to be more stable in dealing with life. I'd be a bit more at ease knowing they had a base to their morals like that. (After all, what determines what is "right" and wrong"?)

WalterRego -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 12:37:00 PM)
Surely you meant that you bow to G-d, (during the Amidah, Sh'ma and Aleinu) not the Torah. A more serious question is what would you require of her? Does she get off from serving on Shabbat? What if she is Christian, Muslim or Pagan and wants a different day? Can she have non kosher food in your house? Hallal food? Must she keep her own set of dishes? Will you free her after seven years? And if she still wants to be with you, will you drive an awl through her earlobe into your doorpost? (Mishpatim, aka Exodus 21: 5-6)

pinnipedster -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 1:58:57 PM)
I'll admit that I'm always a little confused at the notion of someone who is conventionally religious also practicing a D/s lifestyle, but that's just me. But there's nothing odd about a pyramid of authority. In feudal times, you had nobles who had absolute authority over their domains, yet had to bow to a king. I don't think it reduces them in any way.

littlewonder -> RE: Bowing to God - Your Take? (1/17/2009 2:38:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinnipedster I'll admit that I'm always a little confused at the notion of someone who is conventionally religious also practicing a D/s lifestyle, but that's just me. This is an easy answer: quote: Ephesians 5:22, 28-31. "Wives submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, even as Christ is head of the church; and he is the savior of the body. Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so let wives be to their own husbands in everything. Husbands, love your wife as Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it . . . So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church . . . For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and shal.1 be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh". Seems pretty clear D/s to me. Hope it helps ya.

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