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hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 4:57:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
     Very much so.  I'm curious.  Have any of the skilled created their own personal deck and design? 


I've considered doing so.  I've got artwork, and I'm always working on some art project.  However, every time I start to sit down and write out ideas of what I would want to use artistically for the symbology of various cards - within a few days, I end up at the metaphysics shop that's within walking distance of home, and find what I had in mind already on the shelf.

One thing that I'd eventually like to do - one of the "projects" I've got on the list for after dad dies, and I have the opportunity to get a pottery wheel - is to start from scratch, make my own cards from a good high quality clay, and then paint them once they've been through the first firing, but before they're ready for glazing.  I honestly can't say whether it's a project I'll ever get done - or heck, even started on - but it is one that's on the list of things I would Like to do.




beargonewild -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 4:58:06 PM)

At the present I own 3 decks and my favorite is the Celtic Shapeshifters Oracle cards. The artwork is quite good and I found that this style gets the person thinking more deeper to gain any possible insight to what the cards are showing. Just recently acquired the Animal Wise cards and them being based upon Native animal teachings has me thinking in a total different mode.




oceanwynds -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 5:36:07 PM)

Beargonewild
Yes Shapeshifter is excellent. It is one deck I gifted to a friend, but one day want to replace it. Ted Andrews is pagan and his cards Animal-wise tarot is mostly based on celtic animal messages. I use it because of my connection to that world, and I believe Sir gifted it to me, because he was able to see a few of my spirit animal protectors when he first met me. I love that deck, hopefully you will find it useful.

oceanwynds




AlexandraLynch -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 9:06:11 PM)

I am pagan and read tarot semi-professionally. (Which is to say that I would have to settle down and work out how to do the taxes and advertise and all that sort of stuff to do it professionally, and I haven't yet.)

There are a couple levels of reading tarot. One is to simply memorize what various cards symbolize and to interpret them in a reading based on position. For example, that the four of coins symbolizes a miserly attitude, and the ten of pentacles a situation in which there are plenty of physical resources. If the ten of pentacles is the first card, crossed by the four of pentacles, it says to me "There is plenty of money (but) he is acting as though there is barely enough to go around."  The first step in fluently reading tarot is to do that kind of memorizing.

Once that has been done, one sometimes is working through things and realizes that there is a subtle intuition that starts working as one looks at the overall pattern. It takes time to step back and listen to that intuition, and learn how to articulate it for the querent.

Tarot is not so good at yes-no answers. (Runes are, however.) It is profoundly good for  clarifying exactly what factors and actors are at work in a given situation, and showing where, if nothing interferes with it, it will end up. In my own life, I often find that knowing that the situation will break in a certain direction lets me prepare for it, and thus to deal with things a little more competently.

And my Death card simply has a figure in a hooded robe standing across the well traveled path, just where a road less taken forks away from it. I find that is usually what Death means there....a change in where you thought your life was going.

And in terms of seeing a death actually predicted, I never have. I have told people to get pregnancy tests run though. And been right.




HalfShyHalfWild -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 9:34:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: windchymes

I was taught that the Tarot isn't for predicting the future.  The cards and the reader give a POSSIBLE outcome if the querant continues down the path that they are on.  They are not "doomed" to their own fate, but are very much in control of their own lives.  And the cards and reader help the querant to seek and find the answers within him or herself.  And one thing you never do is give medical advice based on the cards.  Ever. 

There is a certain card that I pick out of the 78 card deck every single time I do a reading for myself.  They're shuffled and picked randomly (or are they? lol) but that card has come out of that deck for me every single time in the ten years that I've been reading them.  It's eerie.  And "romance" cards never come out, and there are actually quite a few of them in the deck, lol. 

I love the Morgan Greer deck.  It's the one that "talks" to me.  The Enchanted Tarot is a beautiful deck.  The cards are too big for my hands to work with, but I enjoy just looking at them. 


I absolutely love the Morgan Greer deck as well, one of my favorites.
I can't even explain the difference that I received, I was using the Rider deck before that and have to say, that is one I do not like, at all for some reason.

I did find one that I did end up liking better than the Morgan Greer deck , the Sacred Rose Tarot.

eta: I just googled that Enchanted Deck you mentioned and thank you! I'm so getting that deck.








scarlethiney -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 9:41:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raechard

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ORIGINAL: piratecommander
You'd be better off drawing an ace of spades than the jack with your eight of diamonds though ;)

 
Depends if we are playing twenty-one, could be the start of a five card trick with ace = 1.

The only thing that interests me as such is the fact someone wrote words on a card and someone else has to interpret if those words are good or bad in the context of the person's life. Everyone has their own interpretation of what this word combination could mean so who are we to trust? Is there a standard that we are following here or are different people allowed to read the same thing from different sets of cards? I.e. the first person decided to write death on a card and someone else is supposed to know why that card exists at all? He could have equally written pink panther or various other things.



The death card in Tarot is never about physical death.  It is about renewal or new beginnings. Death of old ways or of a habit. 
Some people use the symbolism and the colors as a visual for what they are picking up intuitively. The symbolism and colors all suggest different things.
Certainly no one interprets the cards or articulates what they are interpreting in quite the same way. People who trust the intuition they possess don't question what they are getting they are merely the channel for this information and so it is up to them to present this information in the most positive way possible to the querent.
And yes anything can be used as a divination tool. The key word is tool. Some love the symbolism and use it. Some don't use anything.
I have 5 decks, not all  are Tarot decks. Some have traditional Tarot symbols and some don't.











scarlethiney -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 9:54:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raechard

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ORIGINAL: colouredin
Differant people get comfort from differant things, for some its spirituality, some its science, none is better than the other. Its what we ourselves need to believe. If you think destiny would mean that you arent in the driving seat then no one is forcing you to believe in it. For others it doenst mean that at all.

There is no comfort in science sometimes just as there is no comfort in the truth. I’m not one to think scientific theory is scientific fact but the main difference between scientific theory and peoples personal beliefs is corroboration and testing. I can’t comment on destiny and to be honest it’s kind of pointless thinking about it when you consider there is no way to prove definitively self determination or destiny. One thing that can be proven is someone’s inability to predict their own or someone else’s destiny. No one wants to do this though because some need that bit of magic in their lives.


Raechard a Tarot reading isn't about prediction. It is about presenting options to the person seeking. It is then that persons choice to pursue that information and those options or not.  We all have choice. Our choice determines our destiny and that can change daily, monthly even hourly depending on what choices we make.





scarlethiney -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 10:00:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: piratecommander
I have a number of decks but I am fondest of the Marseilles as an effective tool


It could be parochial of me, but the Tarot de Marseille is the one and only, as far as I'm concerned.


Kitten I have an Herbal deck by Michael Tierra that is my favorite and just beautiful.  The colors in the Tarot de Marseilles are soooo vibrant.




Vendaval -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 10:10:58 PM)

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The Cat People Deck is one of my favorites both for the artwork and the imagery/symbolism.  And the Morgan-Greer is very bright and colorful, most of the cards have a good feeling to them.
 
I am draw to decks that feature Celtic, Native American or Egyptian symbolism.  One tradition I was taught is to keep your deck in a silk scarf or velvet bag and sleep with it under your pillow during the full moon as a method of connecting your subconscious energy with the deck.  And do not let other people casually handle your cards, that dilutes the connection.  Wait until performing the reading and then let the other person shuffle and concentrate. 





HalfShyHalfWild -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 10:23:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

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The Cat People Deck is one of my favorites both for the artwork and the imagery/symbolism.  And the Morgan-Greer is very bright and colorful, most of the cards have a good feeling to them.
 
I am draw to decks that feature Celtic, Native American or Egyptian symbolism.  One tradition I was taught is to keep your deck in a silk scarf or velvet bag and sleep with it under your pillow during the full moon as a method of connecting your subconscious energy with the deck.  And do not let other people casually handle your cards, that dilutes the connection.  Wait until performing the reading and then let the other person shuffle and concentrate. 




Oh, do you have a good deck for Egyptian?  The only thing I've kept in the last
18 years has been that Rose Tarot deck I mentioned above. 

Just out of curiosity here, does anyone here have the Motherpeace deck or did have it in the past?

I've always found that to be the oddest deck. Curiously drawn to it but yet, hard time with it and really did not like to use it to often.






scarlethiney -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 10:35:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HalfShyHalfWild

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply -
 
The Cat People Deck is one of my favorites both for the artwork and the imagery/symbolism.  And the Morgan-Greer is very bright and colorful, most of the cards have a good feeling to them.
 
I am draw to decks that feature Celtic, Native American or Egyptian symbolism.  One tradition I was taught is to keep your deck in a silk scarf or velvet bag and sleep with it under your pillow during the full moon as a method of connecting your subconscious energy with the deck.  And do not let other people casually handle your cards, that dilutes the connection.  Wait until performing the reading and then let the other person shuffle and concentrate. 




Oh, do you have a good deck for Egyptian?  The only thing I've kept in the last
18 years has been that Rose Tarot deck I mentioned above. 

Just out of curiosity here, does anyone here have the Motherpeace deck or did have it in the past?

I've always found that to be the oddest deck. Curiously drawn to it but yet, hard time with it and really did not like to use it to often.





Soul cards are very unusual. Very beautiful.  I gravitate toward different decks for a period of time and then move on to another. Sometimes I re-visit old decks and sometimes look for something new.

I have seen the Motherpeace deck but never used it.




HalfShyHalfWild -> RE: Tarot (1/18/2009 10:54:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: scarlethiney


Soul cards are very unusual. Very beautiful.  I gravitate toward different decks for a period of time and then move on to another. Sometimes I re-visit old decks and sometimes look for something new.

I have seen the Motherpeace deck but never used it.



I can absolutely understand that. I don't use them nearly as much as I use too. I tried about half a year ago and it was just flat.

I've googled a bit but didn't see anything that caught my eye, well did like that Enchanted deck mentioned above, will have one coming to me now in the next week or so now. [:D]









scarlethiney -> RE: Tarot (1/19/2009 1:30:41 PM)

HalfShyHalfWild I haven't had as much time as I'd like to to use my cards either.  I've also had periods where it seemed hard to connect or the information just didn't flow.  When I'm relaxed and tuned in and take the time to open myself it is usually effortless.
Good luck with your new deck! Please do let us know how you like it.




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