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robertolapiedra -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 4:46:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Why do Dom's lie?

Probably for the same reason some submissives lie.

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Hello IrishMist. Subs lie?! naaaw, no way. They exaggerate, minimize, they forget, colour a little, they omit maybe,
but I have always been told by my sub that either I did not understand what she meant at the time or that she had
said or done something but it was not what she really wanted to say or do (?).

For my part? Yes! I am a liar. I told my sub a thousand times that she was not putting on weight, that she was making
perfect sense when she complained about her family or her friends. When she makes a meal, I always say it was
a good meal even if she hardly touched her own plate because of the ''exotics'' she managed to cook that evening.

Whats funny is when I tell her I love her, she believes me! Go figure! RL.



DarkSteven -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 4:55:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: yieldtoyou

Ever have a Dominant lie about his height, his penis size, and many other things? Sounds like insecurity to me

After you have gotten to know each other, still lying about unimportant things?


Wai a sec.  You're saying that he lied to you and you found out, and he's still lying to you.  In that case, the reason he's still lying is because you haven't kicked his sorry ass to the curb yet.

You are being lied to, and refuse to take action.  Then you post to an Interent forum to discover the reason why.  I'll tell you why - it's because you ask questions instead of taking action.



Sexycelticlady -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 5:00:02 PM)

Everyone lies to some extent or another and I personally find lies to be immoral. When lies are discovered further action taken, whether to end that interaction, act on the lies or simply put them to one side and move on is up to the person who has been lied to. I had a close friend for a long time who lied about very minor things, then some major ones and in the end I decided I did not want them in my life anymore. I now have a rather harsh opinion about lies and liars.



SailingBum -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 5:06:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: yieldtoyou

Ever have a Dominant lie about his height, his penis size, and many other things? Sounds like insecurity to me

After you have gotten to know each other, still lying about unimportant things?


Dunno why are some ppl fat short tall.  Why is the earth round.  why why why

BadOne



robertolapiedra -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 5:48:06 PM)

Hello Sexycelticlady. May I say that I find you very exceptional! RL

http://www.canadiancrc.com/Newspaper_Articles/Scotsman_96_percent_of_women_are_liars_09DEC04.aspx



marie2 -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 5:51:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: yieldtoyou

Ever have a Dominant lie about his height, his penis size, and many other things?



Yes.  I had a guy lie about the size of his dick (by about 3 inches), which is about as stupid as lying about things like height and weight.  These are the things that you can't hide with someone you're planning to meet.  I'd be more embarassed to get caught in such a stupid lie than I would be about the imagined physical deficiencies.



Amaros -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:14:40 PM)

Yeah, but did he nail you?



marie2 -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:18:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

Yeah, but did he nail you?


lmaooo.  Yes. 



Amaros -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:21:26 PM)

There ya go.



marie2 -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:27:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Amaros

There ya go.


Hold on now.  I still would have met the guy if he hadn't told me he had a larger dick than he did.  I wasn't interested in him for the size of his dick.  Scheesh!



Amaros -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:29:33 PM)

Fair enough, he blew it with you, he's an idiot, but it probably worked for him in the past, and my guess is he's probably still doing it.



LordDarkPleasure -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 7:55:56 PM)

While I did share the fact that some people might lie for visibility purposes, I'll show my point differently:

Read this:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~siona/personals.html

Simply put, the Men/Women ratio on the internet is 25:1.

Now here is another link on BDSM:

http://www.sexsupport.org/bdsmforyoungadults.html
In short:

Research shows some significant differences in opinion and behavior between men and women when it comes to erotic power exchange. We singled out the respondents between 18 and 24 years of age for you, because the answers of the respondents in this age range point to some very interesting conclusions.
Not a real phenomenum - in fact pretty well known in sexology - is the fact that young women are not so sure about their general sexual orientation as young men are. For example, almost the entire group of male respondents (96%) indicates their sexual orientation is heterosexual, whereas 71% of the female group indicates heterosexual and 29% is either curious about bisexuality or not sure about their orientation at all.
When it comes to role pattern however, the young men seem to be much less clear about their orientation. Only half of the male group indicates a positive dominant role (52%), 14% indicates to be submissive and 34% indicates to switch roles. The vast majority (71%) of the female respondents indicates they are submissive, 19% switches roles and 10% has a dominant orientation.
Also, young women appear to be much more active when it comes to erotic power exchange. A strong majority of 62% indicates they have had at least one active erotic power exchange experience, whereas only 32% of the male respondents say they have had such an active experience.
 
So basically, on top of the 25:1 ratio, more of those women are looking for other women.  Also, the ratios show that if you are a male sub, you're quite screwed!

Now I got lucky since the issue that caused me to be invisible on this website (being too young) resolved itself over time.  But honestly, if I knew back then that nobody was seeing me because women could afford tightening their search criterias, I probably would have given myself a few years just so that my damn profile would be seen.  I'd probably not be interested in those directly looking up my profile, but at least I would've had a chance at making a contact network.  Now  imagine someone who's just a bit too small, height or penis wise, to have women bother initiating conversation or even seeing their profile...



RedMagic1 -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 8:00:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LordDarkPleasure
Also, the ratios show that if you are a male sub, you're quite screwed!

Be careful with that kind of math.  Your conclusion I've quoted is false.  Read the Ask a Mistress boards, or talk to lifestyle dom women in real life, or look at the Ask A Submissive thread going on right now about the prodomme who can't find sub men to play with her for free.

The vast majority of those male sub profiles are men who for whatever reason are unwilling to meet in real, or who are some other form of internet troll.  There are very few men online who are willing to take women as they are, and meet as real-life potential friends, to see if more could be built.  Yeah, female dominants get a ton of mail, but at the end of the day, pretty much every group gets about the same number of real-time meetings.



LordDarkPleasure -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 8:07:19 PM)

I do know very little about the situation of sub males and Dominant females.  But I'm pretty sure that the 25:1 ratio does remain pertinent.



marie2 -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 8:13:39 PM)

I don't know if the ratio is accurate or not, but there does seem to be an awful lot of submissive males who just can't seem to hook up.



Lynnxz -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 8:15:53 PM)

Social retardedness.

Being on the internets does not entitle you some ridiculously hot kinky pussy on the side.



freekitty -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 9:03:01 PM)

i had a Dom tell me he was a black Master - even sent me a pic of a beautiful black man.  Well we set up a date and time to meet and as i was in route to our dinner date, he calls me on my cell and tells me he was not really black at all and didnt want to surprise me in front of others (like i was going to show up after that!!)



SailingBum -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/19/2009 11:49:57 PM)

When I was a system admin on a chat board everyone had to fill out a profile height weight etc.  When it came ot the weight section we would  joke that we should write a program that would add 30% to their weight lol. 

So I assume most girls lie about their weight.

BadOne



tsatske -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/20/2009 1:23:43 AM)

Yea, BadOne,
Believe it or not, I do not lie about my weight. Well, I only adjust it down at specific intervals, so, while not 'to the pound', it tends to estimate on the high side, not the low side. For one thing, I am happily owned, but, while I was still searching -
Why would I want to surprise someone. I am fat. I am beautiful, I am a gorgeous, fat woman in the process of going bald. (yea, that last one gets me.) If you can't imagine someone my weight as beautiful (that was the generic you), meeting me isn't going to change your mind - I don't look all Holiwood, I look like someone's mother (well, cause I am that, too).
I don't have time to waste meeting people who already know I'm not a good fit for them - or would already know, if I just told them the truth - so I do. While I personally do not do it, I guess I can see lying if you are only flirting online - but if you are going to actually meet someone - why would you lie?
Even if only flirting online. I tried it. I mean, I tried it, within a week of getting my computer. I was careful and smart - it's an imaganary world, right? I basicly 'wrote' myself a fictional, roleplaying type character, just like I would for an RPG, and then headed off to a chat room to 'be' my own dream girl - and I lasted about 20 minutes. I'm chatting away with some guy thinking 'what if I meet a great local guy on here? I can't meet him, I'm not 5'4" (sig shorter, btw) and redheaded....' So, it just seems dumb to me, I guess.
I've seen one of my ExMaster's (the bad one) profile on here - he doesn't have up a pic or chose to disclose his weight. His profile says, if you are interested in that kind of stuff, you are not the right one for him. Well, serriously, when I dated him, he weighed 850#s (honest to G-d). But, maybe he doesn't want it out on the internet that he's lost all that weight... ya' think?



StrangerThan -> RE: Why do some Doms lie? (1/20/2009 3:32:14 AM)

I read somewhere that the average person lies seven times a day - excluding the itty bitty white lies.  Perhaps they lie because they're human.



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