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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/20/2009 5:09:15 AM   
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White lies are the grease that smooths relationships: "no, your ass doesn't look fat in that", "your dick is huge!".

Malignant lies are the ones that most people talk about wen they talk about lies - "I love you" - never say this during sex, or believe somebody when they say it during sex (unless you've been married for a while) - every woman that's been knocked up and deserted since the dawn of time has fallen for that one.

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/20/2009 5:34:47 AM   
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White lies are the grease that smooths relationships: "no, your ass doesn't look fat in that"


I thought the proper wording was, 'It's not the jeans' (that make your ass look fat).
Will that work just as well?

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/20/2009 6:06:25 AM   
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Could be, I just say 'yeah'.

'Course I like a big Phat ass...

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/25/2009 8:09:57 PM   
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Oh goody, a psychology question.

It is common for both (dom and sub) to lie because they feel they need to be more important than what they are. Many people cover up their sadness in life through lying and they are out to impress someone so they can become mentally happy. Mentally happy meaning they are able to forget, even for an hour, how miserable they are. Thus, if they lie, they are rewarded with an escape. However, as someone has already stated, lying will get them what they want as they don't believe in working for it. Thus they take an easy way out and play it until they are caught. When caught, they move on to the next person and do it all over again. But in the end, what they don't realize and never will grasp is that they will ultimately never find what they seek until they become right with themselves. 

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/25/2009 9:40:23 PM   
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Ever have a Dominant lie about his height, his penis size, and many other things? Sounds like insecurity to me

After you have gotten to know each other, still lying about unimportant things?


I don't know about the penis thing but I do know that it is fairly common for men to be disingenuous about their height. It's very prevalent in sports too. There are a number of professional boxers who are much shorter than the official height they give.

I think height is associated with power, success, virility and so forth. In certain ways understandably so. But some of that height stuff annoys me, so I might be the only man on earth who actually shortens himself.  I think in my profile I gave my height at 5'6" - and that's what I usually tell people or list on forms. I'm actually probably 5'7" - at least that's what I've been measured at in the past by a nurse. 

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/26/2009 7:53:05 AM   
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Guys have lied to me about:

Height, weight, age, hair, whether they have an SO, income, orientation, etc

When I met them in person and they weren't what they said they were....I thanked them for their time and left. To me that meant that were willing to lie about insignificant things....so what would happen when we came to something big. (Although, I view the SO as a HUGE thing) It also told me that they thought that I was shallow enough that height, weight, hair and income mattered to me.

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 1/26/2009 1:22:07 PM   
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Some?

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 12:34:17 AM   
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Think about the last time you lied, why did you do  it?  People lie to impress others because they feel they are not impressive enough as they are. People lie to avoid getting into trouble. People lie to gain something or avoid something. People lie out of habit.

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 1:26:34 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tsatske

quote:

White lies are the grease that smooths relationships: "no, your ass doesn't look fat in that"


I thought the proper wording was, 'It's not the jeans' (that make your ass look fat).
Will that work just as well?



You mean like..
What happens when we don't lie.

Q "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"
A "No dear, I think it was the cake and fried chicken"

(cut scene to Dom being rushed to hospital with that huge giant dildo that was only bought as decoration and never meant to be actually used, waving like a flag pole from his rectum.)

I'm not saying people should lie but sometimes telling the whole truth can be..painful.


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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 7:22:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Guys have lied to me about:

Height, weight, age, hair, whether they have an SO, income, orientation, etc

When I met them in person and they weren't what they said they were....I thanked them for their time and left. To me that meant that were willing to lie about insignificant things....so what would happen when we came to something big. (Although, I view the SO as a HUGE thing) It also told me that they thought that I was shallow enough that height, weight, hair and income mattered to me.


True story. I met a woman once for coffee who said: "Wow, you're exactly as you stated you were." And then left.


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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 10:39:46 AM   
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Whenever you say why do [insert group/profession] people do [insert behavior not endorsed by the one asking the question] Why do some military people end up running drugs from S. America? Why do cops rape? Why do mob bosses donate to charity?

People are always people, no matter what career / job / category / group they are put into. There will be liars, cheats, thieves, etc. in every human group and society, always.

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 11:38:52 AM   
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see now me, I always lie in reverse make it an inch shorter, Just so she's pleasantly surprised...


Aahh but for some that extra inch difference could be the factor that determins if they are actually Dom or sub...


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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 12:15:22 PM   
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Lies are lies. White lies hurt both people, because the individual knows that xhe's not comfortable in that pair of jeans, and hir lover's reassurance doesn't really mean anything, because both of them already know it's a lie... but it -does- lay down a foundation of mistrust. After all, if someone will lie about the little things, what's to say xhe won't lie about the big ones.

Looking back over my life, the biggest lies I've ever told have been to myself. I know that I spent a lot of years trying to convince myself that what I knew to be true was really not quite as black-and-white as it really was. I wanted to be in a 'gray' area, because I didn't want to believe that I'd had all the information to make the -right- choice, and still made a poor choice anyway... but I am an impossibly bad liar.. can't even lie to myself with any kind of proficiency. Sometimes, it really SUX, too... but in general, I guess I'm glad that I'm so bad at it, because knowing that I -will- get caught out has kept me from making some pretty bad mistakes that looked like they would get easier if I lied about them. Knowing that I had no chance of getting away with it made me face the truths head-on, and saved my pearly-white ass from serious mess or abysmal embarrassment. An added advantage is that it opened the doors for education in place of polite ignorance.

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RE: Why do some Doms lie? - 2/8/2009 1:07:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: yieldtoyou

Ever have a Dominant lie about his height, his penis size, and many other things? Sounds like insecurity to me

After you have gotten to know each other, still lying about unimportant things?


I think all men might lie if it comes down to size issues, they do tend to overestimate themselves ;) A bit like women tend to "underestimate" their weight.

I guess we all lie on a daily basis, or how often do we really mean it if we ask "How are you" or say "Lovely to see you"?

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