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Trivia - 1/19/2009 7:12:55 PM   
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CANNON BALLS !!! DID YOU KNOW THIS?  It was necessary to keep a good supply of cannon balls near
the cannon on old war ships. But how to prevent them from
rolling about the deck was the problem. The best storage
method devised was to stack them as a square based pyramid,
with one ball on top, resting on four, resting on nine
which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a
small area right next to the cannon. There was only one
problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from
sliding/rolling from under the others.

The solution was a metal plate with 16 round indentations,
called, for reasons unknown, a Monkey. But if this plate
were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it.
The solution to the rusting problem was to make them of
brass - hence, Brass Monkeys.

Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and
much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the
temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would
shrink so much that the iron cannon balls would come right
off the monkey.

Thus, it was quite literally, cold enough to freeze the
balls off a brass monkey. And all this time, you thought
that was just a vulgar expression, didn't you?

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RE: Trivia - 1/19/2009 7:50:42 PM   
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wow..thats cool!

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RE: Trivia - 1/20/2009 5:53:58 AM   
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I fail to see the humor in this.

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RE: Trivia - 1/20/2009 6:28:58 PM   
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That's particularly interesting to me as I am a shipwright

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RE: Trivia - 1/20/2009 10:38:30 PM   
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Fascinating

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RE: Trivia - 1/20/2009 11:09:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

I fail to see the humor in this.


Where else to put it, though?

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 3:38:58 AM   
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I went to a talk per the civil war and cannons.  he passed around some balls- the ones he passed were like 12 lbs.  I hadnt thought too much about it--- it was neat.

the term "loose cannon" has something to do with the cannon on the ship sliding--

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 7:34:57 AM   
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Yep, I knew that!  You folks w/ UM's need to teach them that, and make sure they've got it all and right.   Then they can use the term at school and when the teacher gets upset, explain it to her and ask what the teacher thought it meant.

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 8:26:34 AM   
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Pulling your Leg.

Know what It means?

It's not Teasing in fact it is a GOOD thing. You pull someones leg when you point out something in such a way that causes a little humilliation rather than spending a long time oblivious to something that is comical but no one is saying anything to you to stop it.

Like when someone says "Hey Chief, You giving then Midget in your Pants some Air?" He is telling you to pull up your zipper because other people are noticing but NOT saying anything. This is called "Pulling Your Leg" and why is this?

When Hanging was popular and before the long Drop Gallows were invented people just hung there until they suffocated and so in the mid 1600 - 1700's when hangings were popular. A Friend or Family Member would be allowed to Pull on your Legs to Stop you from gagging about with a slow Asphxiation.

There for when you pull someones leg you are shortening thier unknown suffering.

and No I'm Not Pulling Your Leg.

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 8:50:59 AM   
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Steel that is absolutely disgusting to put into a humor thread. Got any more along those lines ?  :-)

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 9:27:28 AM   
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Thank You!!

I have to call Grandpa he's full of these little known facts.

Will get back to you.

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 9:41:27 AM   
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About the brass monkey bit-

I didn't buy it- ships heel a great deal (put the lee rail in green water) and there's no way cannonballs would stay stacked when plowing through waves.

Check snopes-www.snopes.com and you'll find out its an internet hoax.

Just don't accuse me of being a ballbreaker.....

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 10:47:56 AM   
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Would it not be easier to flatten the balls on the bottom. It would not effect the firing of them.

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 3:18:25 PM   
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I'd have thought that the pressure which fires a cannonball down the cannon would escape through the gap left by the flat edge?
Surely it would make more sense to have a box secured to the floor beside the cannon?  Even a hole in the floor for each cannonball to sit in would be more logical than stacking them, although health & safety these days would see it as a trip hazard.


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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 6:06:55 PM   
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Brass monkeys were used by cannon crew's on land and did shrink when weather got really cold.

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 6:26:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Saratov

Yep, I knew that!  You folks w/ UM's need to teach them that, and make sure they've got it all and right.   Then they can use the term at school and when the teacher gets upset, explain it to her and ask what the teacher thought it meant.



Truly wicked Saratov.   I like it.


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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 6:51:10 PM   
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Useless Shit that is taking up Space in my Brain

Why do we say.........

Saved By the Bell?

No not because of Zach and Slater but rather because It was either during the restructuring of a gravesite or the fact that people who were thought to be dead were waking up during funerals that led to the discovery of the coma.  Scratch marks were found on the underside of some coffins and fear of burying someone alive led to the tying a string to the “dead” person’s wrist.  The string was attached to a nearby tree and bell.  If they woke up and rang the bell, they were saved. 

Chew the Fat?

it's actually gross during medieval times bacon was VERY expensive to buy. When you did get some in was customary to display or store it over the fireplace in the parlor. When important guests would come over it would be taken down and chewed during conversations thus people would sit around and chew the fat!

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 8:26:30 PM   
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quote:

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Saved By the Bell?

No not because of Zach and Slater but rather because It was either during the restructuring of a gravesite or the fact that people who were thought to be dead were waking up during funerals that led to the discovery of the coma.  Scratch marks were found on the underside of some coffins and fear of burying someone alive led to the tying a string to the “dead” person’s wrist.  The string was attached to a nearby tree and bell.  If they woke up and rang the bell, they were saved. 



That would be where the "gravevard shift" came from.  There had to be someone there to listen for those bells.  So the man whose job it was to sit in the graveyard in the middle of the night just to wait and see if someone would "ring", were said to be working the "graveyard shift".  Also, that is where the term "dead-ringer" came from as well.

And you thought YOU were full of useless info... HAHA!

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RE: Trivia - 1/21/2009 10:47:08 PM   
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OK, so Cannon Balls isn't an artillery man's venereal disease?

Next you'll be saying Grape Nuts isn't really VD either!

Or that Syphilis was just a guy perpetually rolling a stone up a mountain.

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RE: Trivia - 1/22/2009 2:45:36 AM   
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Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children-last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it-hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw, piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and other small animals (mice rats, and bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof-hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence the saying "dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh on the floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they kept adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entry way-hence, a "thresh hold."

They cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while-hence the rhyme, "peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and "chew the fat."

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with a high acid content caused some of the lead to leak onto the food, causing lead poisoning and death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Most people did not have pewter plates, but had trenchers, a piece of wood with the middle scooped out like a bowl. Often trenchers were made from stale bread which was so old and hard that they could use them for quite some time. Trenchers were never washed and a lot of times worms and mould got into the wood and old bread. After eating off wormy mouldy trenchers, one would get "trench mouth."

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust."

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up-hence the custom of holding a "wake."

With graveyards being small people soon started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, one out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realised they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer".

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