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IronBear -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 10:58:49 AM)

FR

When all else fails get the shotgun, load it with a solid lead slug (or hard plastic to stop lead poisoning) and blow the offending talluywacker off. Then take him into the EDR for a patch up job and start running because the boys in blue will have some difficult questions for you.... Failing that, read the replies three times and forget the idea.. 




badlilthang -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 10:59:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

Man came into the ER of the hospital that i work in - he had cut his penis off, and ate it. Have the pictures to prove it.  Needless (do i really need to say this?) to say - he is well known to the psychiatric floor.

***i am a woman - but believe me - even thinking this made me also cross my legs and go owwww - and no - you did not need to say that he was a regular on the psych floor.....good god - i feel sorry for him***

It took a couple of hours for the doctor to debride the shaft and close the skin - and now he has a urethra flush with the skin   -   no penis what-so-ever!

Rather than a do-your-self job, i would recommend he goes through the medical community and get it done properly, if they agree. If he really does have body dysmorphia, eventually they probably would do it.   If it is a fantasy fetish thing, then [8|].

***have seen a few programs about this. One guy meant that his left leg was a bodypart that did not belong. He was even in a wheelchair because he could not even bear to use that perfectly healthy leg to walk with. He had been in counceling for years - but no way would he change his mind. He even froze his leg down and started to cut himself..shakes head. It is impossible for a somewhat collected and normal person to understand these thoughts - but for the person thinking them - this is their reality.***




yourMissTress -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:02:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: boyTamer

I'm wondering if there is some published source on how to do these?  Is there a manual or is it all word of mouth among the few that do this or are interested in doing it?

Any information and knowledge you can give would be greatly appreciated.;
boyTamer



Yes, there is a manual and included with that manual is face to face instruction as well as hands on learning opportunities.  It's called medical school.  Check it out.




beargonewild -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:04:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: boyTamer

I've been talking to a potential slave for about 5 years or so and his biggest dream is to have his penis removed.  It's gotten to the point that's all he talks about anymore. 

Anyway, this last week I decided to search around for information about a Penectomy which led me to joining BME.  On BME I saw some very interesting pictures and then read some very intriguing stories as to how they got their penis cut off.  I was amazed to find out that these extreme body modification were self done.  I used various search engine to try to find out more about the actual cutting but came up with nothing.

I'm wondering if there is some published source on how to do these?  Is there a manual or is it all word of mouth among the few that do this or are interested in doing it?

Any information and knowledge you can give would be greatly appreciated.;
boyTamer



Only suggestion I have is go talk to a surgical physician. They're qualified to explain exactly what's involved.




JustDarkness -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:09:09 AM)

!!!!!WARNING!!!!

http://www.daveshole.com/dickless.htm
http://www.daveshole.com/penectom.htm

...not for the weak (which seem to include me on this subject)




Lockit -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:33:35 AM)

I don't get even thinking of something like this without medical involvment... you would get it no matter how you do it... so I can't understand why someone would even consider self medical surgery.  Call me ignorant... but, what the fuck?  I can understand one not being okay with having a penis or being male... but I can't understand one who would encourage self mutilation enough to ask about it... the medical community is the only way to go.  You have an expense of money and time either way... criminal charges, medical problems and mental wards the other way.  Hello....




mummyman321 -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:44:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: boyTamer


Any information and knowledge you can give would be greatly appreciated.;
boyTamer



Just when you thought you heard just about everything [sm=banghead.gif]




JustDarkness -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:52:01 AM)

eunuchs pop up through history.....no clue why
perhaps he is a singer




Lockit -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 11:56:28 AM)

eunuchs do not pop up... smile




JustDarkness -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 12:10:11 PM)

that part not..lol




allthatjaz -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 12:15:54 PM)

The Arabs used to take young men into the desert and cut off there penis before burying them up to the head in sand for up to ten days. This, if they survived created a valuable eunuch. Sadly only one in ten did survive.

People that become fetish amputees tend not to stop with one limb or the cock. It is an unhealthy mental obsession with something they don't like on there body but once rid of it they are known for finding something else they don't like.




ALAstella -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 12:24:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: boyTamer

I've been talking to a potential slave for about 5 years or so and his biggest dream is to have his penis removed.  It's gotten to the point that's all he talks about anymore. 

Anyway, this last week I decided to search around for information about a Penectomy which led me to joining BME.  On BME I saw some very interesting pictures and then read some very intriguing stories as to how they got their penis cut off.  I was amazed to find out that these extreme body modification were self done.  I used various search engine to try to find out more about the actual cutting but came up with nothing.

I'm wondering if there is some published source on how to do these?  Is there a manual or is it all word of mouth among the few that do this or are interested in doing it?

Any information and knowledge you can give would be greatly appreciated.;
boyTamer



I think from the above OP the sttaement below is the most telling.

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It's gotten to the point that's all he talks about anymore. 



Not wishing to be judgmental or anything, but the above statement alone would lead me to question not only what is going on in this person's mind, but also what's going on in his life.

I'm inclined to suspect that this person might have ever so slightly gone to lunch.

But what's more is to come across a potential dom who is prepared to go along with this and not even have any concerns as to this person's mental health or manner of living. What's more, someone who appears to genuinely believe that something like this would be legally possible outside the medical profession.

Just because something is weird or unusual doesn't make it WIITWD. Consider that all what is WIITWD is considered healthy and practised by healthy individuals. Here I'm not convinced that this is the case.

I mean, it's not like it's something you could get your local butcher to do, is it?

I suggest going to see a doctor, but admit that there's only one word I can think of.

And that word is 'fruitcake'.

stella




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 1:34:49 PM)

Not saying that this is the case here, not having talked to either of the parties involved, but just on a general note concerning sanity and other things... Having met and spent some time with individuals who are acrotomophiliacs and apotemnophiliacs, I've started to look at this more as many people looked at gender dysphoric individuals some 30+ years ago. In general, most of the individuals I've met who have fetishes in this area are pretty down-to-earth people, and pretty well adjusted. There is just a part or several parts of the human body that they just don't believe belong there (either on their own bodies, or on someone else's body). For them, the piece(s) hang out like, if you'll pardon the expression, sore thumbs.

A couple of individuals here have commented on the idea that men who want penectomies don't like being men... actually, that's nearly as far from the truth as saying that men who -crossdress- don't like being men. MOST of the penile apotemnophiliacs I've met while doing pastoral care for the body modification community LOVE being men -- they just hate their penises. They run about 70:30 homosexual:heterosexual, but my experience has been that that is, in part, because it seems to be easier in the gay community to find someone willing to do the amputation. The ones I've met have shown no desire to be female--though a couple have said that, if it were the only way to get their penis cut off safely, they'd try to go that route (which I think is sad, that they'd even have to consider that).

In one way or another, every single human being is a little crazy, so if this is their way, so be it. Unfortunately, since the medical profession tends to be excruciatingly judgmental about procedures (they'll hyperinflate a woman's breasts until she can barely stand upright just because she demands it, or completely re-shape a person's face for the asking, but try and find a plastic surgeon who will do a penectomy and it's like they suddenly poofed into oblivion.), people have gone in other directions to get the work done that they wish to have done.

I do recommend to someone who asks me about having a limb amputated or body part significantly changed (pretty much any change short of dying hair, and including mods that I do like piercings, brandings, and cuttings that can't be undone) that they talk to the people who are close to them about their decision, and make sure that they've both seen something like the end result that they're anticipating and set up a support network to help them through the readjustment phase. I remind the folks who want to have things removed like arms and legs (in the same way that I remind patients who are losing limbs to illness) that it is important that they prepare for the loss, be prepared to grieve it even if they know it's the right thing for them, and that they have arrangements made for physical therapy and occupational therapy after. When the genitalia are involved, though, many of these steps get left out or forgotten. I always find it strange that doctors are willing to do prophylactic mastectomies for women and prophylactic penectomies for men who have a family history of certain cancers but no sign of cancer themselves, but if the person wants a mastectomy or penectomy because she or he hates having breasts or a penis and the organ(s) feel un-natural to the person, that person is likely to be denied as a 'flake' or as exhibiting 'mental illness'.

I agree with my stepdaughter. She likes the sci-fi idea of the constantly mutable body, where you can go to a "body shop" and be completely re-designed at will. She thinks that it would make the world a much better place if people could just look the way they wanted, do it safely, and we could all just get on with living.




antipode -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 3:02:44 PM)

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eunuchs do not pop up... smile



Whoohahaha... well, maybe just once [8D]




kiwisub12 -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 4:00:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I knew I could count on you, kiwisub!!  Don't mind me; I'll be over in the corner with my legs crossed for the rest of the day.



Hehe   -   there are more than monetary advantages to the medical field.

and my Sir was VERY unimpressed with this story. His reaction was very similar. [:)]




kittinSol -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 4:15:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz
The Arabs used to take young men into the desert and cut off there penis before burying them up to the head in sand for up to ten days. This, if they survived created a valuable eunuch. Sadly only one in ten did survive.


Which country or countries did this take place in? I'd be curious to read more about it.




NormalOutside -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 4:18:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
Most cases I know of will also require lengthy psychiatric and psychological consultations first and a document stating that the subject is of sane and sound mind.

I can't imagine a person being both "of sound mind" and also wanting to chop their penis off.  Something tells me they're mutually exclusive.




kittinSol -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 5:00:02 PM)

Smooth crotch Ken. Who could resist such a look?




IronBear -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 5:01:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
Most cases I know of will also require lengthy psychiatric and psychological consultations first and a document stating that the subject is of sane and sound mind.

I can't imagine a person being both "of sound mind" and also wanting to chop their penis off.  Something tells me they're mutually exclusive.



My first thought is those who undergo sex changes...




Viridana -> RE: Is there a manual or can you give advice on a Penectomy or Penis Nullification? (1/24/2009 5:04:30 PM)

Here are just a few things that can go wrong: infection of the wound, cellulitis, sepsis, prostatitis, vesiculitis, kidney infection, abcess and renal failure, atelectasis, necrosis, rupture of bladder etc. which can result in permanent disability or death. If you really care about this guy you'll get a surgeons consult and under no circumstance what so ever let anybody do it but a trained surgeon in a surgical environment. 




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