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ORIGINAL: Underumam

I can also point out that many of the little details some of the Dommes here point out when searching for a sub, are just simple common sense things that any true gentleman would automatically do for Her.(open doors, pitch in with whatever needs to be done etc.) Some of these type things are not/shouldn't be just reserved for this lifestyle.  When you really love someone, why wouldn't you do whatever you could for the other?

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: Underumam

I can also point out that many of the little details some of the Dommes here point out when searching for a sub, are just simple common sense things that any true gentleman would automatically do for Her.(open doors, pitch in with whatever needs to be done etc.) Some of these type things are not/shouldn't be just reserved for this lifestyle.  When you really love someone, why wouldn't you do whatever you could for the other?

Why wouldn't we do whatever we could for our fellow human beings in general?

As to gallantry--women traded it away when they put the axe to condescension, and the idea that women were less competent and capable than men. Very few men aspire to be a "true gentleman" nowadays, and very few women can afford to wait to meet one...

There are some women here who demand a great deal of gallantry from their submissives, and I've noticed that they sometimes incur resentment and derision from others. Their detractors will cheerfully tell you that they make their subs crawl around naked on the floor picking up marbles by mouth or clean the house with the handle of a feather duster stuck in the bum--but suddenly they get very superior and snarky if a woman says that she makes her submissive open the door for her, or pull out her chair at a restaurant.

Apparently, making your sub a ridiculous spectacle in private is acceptable: making him a gentleman in public is not. *shrug*

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ORIGINAL: Underumam

Is it my imagination, or are people in general getting more self-serving and thoughtless regarding others? Have you noticed a debasement in simple human decency and tolerance of others? If so, how do we find the passage back to the place we as humans, were before?

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So for me, quietly living a life that reflects what you want to see in the world is the best way to create change.

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ORIGINAL: Underumam
. This is just something that's been on my mind ever since my 14 year old daughter was born and I started contemplating what kind of world my generation was leaving for hers. It's been downright scary sometimes..

Hello Underumam,
Good question you asked, and I would like to add that this isn't a topic just for in the Usa, but for all over the world.

I'm a single mom with an 14 year old son, and I do see how he grows up, and has a good set of brains, and is polite, and helpfully, especially elsewhere grinz, but of course he does help at home too.
he loves to be online, which is at one point great, because
all the information is out there, but on the other hand,
it's of course better to interact with people, which he does too,
and the time has come, where he wants to go out, to
safe party's(party's with no drugs & alcohol) in town.
I always say to him, I don't
fear that you will do silly stuff, but I don't trust the world out there.
So make sure you go with friends, so you don't walk alone.

We've seen enough violence which started out of nothing,
simply because it's "fun" to just beat someone up.

So yes, where is this world going too,
where is the tolerance of people, and acceptance that
we do live all together in this world, and the understanding,
that We have to do it with each other.

There are so many people who spread hatred around,
and the amount of violence ain't getting any less.

It's a scary world out there, and one can raise
their kids to their best ability, but then it's up to them.
To meet the world.

We can do only so much.

And you had a great statement about :
"when you really love someone, why wouldn't you want to do whatever you could for that one"

I so fully agree.
But I believe that's also something which has to be taught,
and in some once character.

I live by that motto too, and I do that.
It's just no guarantee it's returned.

I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`

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So for me, quietly living a life that reflects what you want to see in the world is the best way to create change.

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So for me, quietly living a life that reflects what you want to see in the world is the best way to create change.

Another thing that helps is to remember that it is your job to teach people how to treat you.  If you set up boundaries and expectations from the begining, it makes it easier for them to understand what you will/will not accept.  Remind them that this word exists:  next.

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Is it my imagination, or are people in general getting more self-serving and thoughtless regarding others? Have you noticed a debasement in simple human decency and tolerance of others?

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If so, how do we find the passage back to the place we as humans, were before?