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My three - 1/27/2009 11:36:14 AM

lilah333

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Here are some questions that I have and can't find anything online that makes sense.

1. What is Old Guard?

2. What is Gorean?

3. What is Leather Community?

Thank you very much~

L

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RE: My three - 1/27/2009 11:47:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: lilah333

Here are some questions that I have and can't find anything online that makes sense.

1. What is Old Guard?

2. What is Gore?

3. What is Leather Community?

Leather?? Gor??
Thank you very much~

L

Well, i dont know what will and wont make sense to you but the search feature here is very good. Try the above links and go from there.

Best wishes

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RE: My three - 1/27/2009 5:38:24 PM

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Try this link http://www.collarchat.com/m_2294491/tm.htm

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2. What is Gorean?

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RE: My three - 1/27/2009 5:41:33 PM

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The Search link (upper right corner) is not especially prominent, so it may help to click on this link.

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 6:05:48 AM

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She's only been on the site for 27 days, so imho, deserves a break. i've always been told that a) there's no such thing as a stupid question, and b) if you don't know something ask.

Welcome to CM, lilah

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 6:16:08 AM

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She's only been on the site for 27 days, so imho, deserves a break. i've always been told that a) there's no such thing as a stupid question, and b) if you don't know something ask.

Welcome to CM, lilah

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Well said krikket !

We were all new once, perahaps the OP is not familure with the way the search facility on here works

..... the only stupid question is the unasked one !

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 6:39:49 AM

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And still know one answered her.
In basic terms... Old Guard and Leather have similar links in that they are predominatly refering to gay leather community. Although these days, leather community incorporates all orientations. At it's most basic it's leather wearing high protocol grouping and families.
Old Guard referes to latepost war gay biker culture and you will find very few original Old Guard around, although you will get people who claim to be old guard trained. This is like a calling card/acceptability thing and I usually find most people who make that claim have pretty much nil knowledge of what Old Guard is. You might say that the leather community is an extention/continuation of Old Guard.
Gor is based on the ideas in a series of books by John Norman. Most goreans I know do not identify as BDSMers as for them, Gorean is more an identity and whole ethos, rather than anything else. There is a gorean forum here and you might want to check it out. It can get heated debates there but don't be put off as there are some pretty cool practitioners of gor around.

If I made a mistake I am sure someone will correct me as I am not an authority on these three, but at least its a start. If you want to look up Gor, try the forum or Google John Norman and for the Old Guard, I believe Jack Rinella and Jay Wiseman had some good articles so you could google those names as well.

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 6:43:29 AM

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yay!! Thanks for the definitions, the.dark. i have a basic knowledge to know what the 3 groups are, but not enough to attempt to define them for someone. :)

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 7:31:30 AM

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Well...I might have been a bit ultra basic, but it's a start hey. I just wish I had not made so many typos - grrrr... new nailssuck sometimes...

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 9:25:33 AM

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Mmmm new nails. Would feel good along back.

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 10:28:31 AM

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i actually did answer her question the best way i could, not knowing much about any of her questions, i directed her to just some of the discussions that have taken place on here before. Nice part was, i learned a lot reading through them too.

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 11:16:20 AM

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Hmmmmm, yes, i know how the search funtion works and googled all of these things. The problem is that i could not seem to understand any of the stuff that came up.

i think i get it but still don't understand Gorean. Wiki is of no help.

Thanks,

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 12:05:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: lilah333

Hmmmmm, yes, i know how the search funtion works and googled all of these things. The problem is that i could not seem to understand any of the stuff that came up.

i think i get it but still don't understand Gorean. Wiki is of no help.

Thanks,

L

http://www.thegoreanworld.com/
http://goreanreference.50megs.com/contents.html
http://www.geocities.com/delphius2002/id2.htm
(google has more..but it gives you an idea)

read here some.
ps Gor can be online and real life......there is a difference....but both have the books as guidance (and both groups are not really fans of eachother)

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RE: My three - 1/28/2009 2:05:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilah333

Hmmmmm, yes, i know how the search funtion works and googled all of these things. The problem is that i could not seem to understand any of the stuff that came up.

i think i get it but still don't understand Gorean. Wiki is of no help.

Thanks,

L

Most of the local libraries (that I have gone to) carry some if not all of Norman's books. I'd suggest borrowing some and reading them.

He's not the greatest writer as he tends to go over and over and over the same thing time and time again but his philosophy is intersting.

In my opinion that is the best way to learn about gor.

That said.... the books are a fantasy based setting so, those that identify as gorean have altered the stuff needed to make the fantasy become reality. (Here on earth you can't just grab a female and make them your slave and then kill them if you don't find them pleasing hehe)

For the Gorean families that I know personally, they base their life on what John based the foundation of his books on.

Honor
Integrity
Men are ultimately Dominant
women are utimately submissive.

Yes there are male subs (not overly looked on well alot) and there are Dominant women, but according to the books all women are basically slaves. In the books there are a race or group of women that are all Dominant.

I could go on and on and on but really, go grab one of the books and you'll get the idea. If not at your library they have them on ebay at times and amazon.com carries them as well.

Hope that helped alittle bit.

Oh.... don't confuse the online roleplaying gorean rooms for the same as people that run their lives and households on a gorean basis.

The one thing i really liked about gor myself was the structure. But again the structure is only as stingent as the Master running the home.

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