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LaTigresse -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:23:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

I am sure you are. But I did NOT evaluate you. so don't take my standards personally...I said what my standards are. And my standards are expensive.
Nothing out, nothing in.  It's that simple in my mind.


For some of us, there are qualities and facets of submission and service that money simply cannot buy. It has been my experience that the material and monetary is easier for them than what I ask.




ladylucky32 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:28:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

Guys EXPECT you to have ALL of that Pro or Amateur.
They EXPECT you to send them good quality pictures.
They EXPECT you to look like you just stepped out of a porn movie in the photos.
They EXPECT your body to be flawless
They EXPECT you to not look a day over 21
They EXPECT you to have pretty outfits
They EXPECT you to have a fully equipped Dungeon!

Again... there are different kinds of Mistresses.... Some just put on a black sweater in the back of their trailer and slap men and call themselves a Domme....Others try to do everything that is EXPECTED of them with the HIGHEST STANDARDS and Quality!!!.... and all that costs a FORTUNE! Someone has got to contribute to all of that or otherwise it is a money losing venture for a Domme and no one can stay involved


Well then that is your problem.....see I really don't care what some men expect. Lucky for me there are tons of boys out there who really don't expect all that and are very happy with what they get. When I think about all the Dommes I know in real life. Most of them don't fit your criteria for a Domme and they seem perfectly happy with their lives and their subs seem very satisfied also. The only ones I know who have a fully equipped dungeon are currently pros or have been in the past.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:29:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus
I am NOT content to be a half ass dominatrix with a black flannel mini skirt and a ping pong paddle.

Am I the only person who found this line to be ridiculously offensive?  I'm a male dom, and I don't buy toys.  If a female sub wants to play with me, and use toys, then she can provide them.  I enjoy being creative, and being challenged.  Put me in a room with my bare hands and a bunch of normal objects I can pervert, and we'll both have a great time.  I suppose that makes me a half-ass wannabe, despite the fact that subs have handed me everything from electrical implements to a baseball bat and asked me to use that on them for the first time in my life.

Also, judging from the posts and threads about who "should" pay for what, I must be the only man on CollarMe who consistently dates women who make more money than I do.  And I enjoy "spoiling" -- and "being spoiled" -- but you know what?  The thing I enjoy most, more than sex even, is resting together with someone I can totally trust.  And to find that person, you have to look somewhere besides their wallet.




ladylucky32 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:32:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

I want to be the BEST at anything I do...I am NOT content to be a half ass dominatrix with a black flannel mini skirt and a ping pong paddle.
I want to be the BEST and I EXPECT only the best in return. It is about Quality. The inner Domme we shall not speak of... That's automatic.


That's great that you want to be the best and if your serious about that, then maybe you should pay attention to what the other women on the boards are saying. They have years and years of experience and make some good points.





LunaVenus -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:42:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The thing I enjoy most, more than sex even, is resting together with someone I can totally trust.


Well I never have sex with a sub or look to them to be a romantic partner. They are my sub or slave...not my lover. But back to the point...BDSM  and D/s for me is like Theatre.... a good production with lots of effects and props...I am not looking for a romantic connection.   If one comes out of a slave I would be pleasantly surprised.....But I take my subs on a well orchestrated adventure...They leave me  with their mouths open and their eyes bucked...And that takes a lot of hard work and money to pull off exquisitely.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:50:33 AM)

If a performance lacks content -- or soul -- then its only saving grace is the quality of its bells and whistles.

Sometimes underproduced music is more powerful than big band.




MistressLesbo22 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:52:27 AM)

I have my answer if you like to hear a story a few years ago i had a slave girl who was very sweet but had a very tempered side I am a actress model so I was asked to go to California to model for a biker magazine  i went ,during the  the 3 day photo shoot i get called by the local authorities who had gotten my phone number from my mum I had to urgently return home blowing the who shoot which was worth some nice cash for my living. upon the flight home I wonder what the hell cause my mu told me she would tell all when I got home I lived like 3 hours from her.. she knows of my life style but she did not know that the young female who was a dead beat was my slave. she thought just girl friend. the story goes as such i cared for her gave her everything when she was good so in return when she could not go she took trashed my home and then took with out my permission my 2004 Mercedes slk 430 s coupe street tuner and rolled it over in a ditch we don't know if she got hurt because to this day she has not ever been seen again I lost over $56,000 worth of automobile and I cant count the damages to my home. so I figure if a slave or sub would work they would be resposible and also at todays cost of things who the hell can afford to carry another I sure cant just the cost of car insurance food clothing let alone the ultilities and of course many other things like events etc  so you have to be kidding if someone wont pay their part in my life.....




LunaVenus -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 7:59:13 AM)

Mistress Lesbo, I can SO relate with you on many levels




windycitysub78 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 8:48:56 AM)

I'm a sub, and I want my Domme to be financially successful (like me).  It says something about the person, and I certainly won't submit to just anyone.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:00:16 AM)

Your friend is lucky. Lucky that he is not discriminated against. Lucky that he is not lied to. Lucky that he is surrounded by people of good integrity. Unfortunately there are people in this world who are manipulators, liars, deceivers and ultimately bullies. Thats what mentally ill people are up against every day of the week. Most mentally ill people want to get on in life.  They dont want to collect unemployments. But they are left with little choice when they face prejudice at every turn.
kevin




Lockit -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:11:30 AM)

Wow... I had no idea that money made the dominant! 

I'll tell you what... if it takes all the trimming's to be what a submissive expects... I will send them on to you who think's one must be of a certain look to be dominant and 'best' and who has all the toy's to play with.

I've made a few eye's go bug eye... knee's buckle and all that and I didn't need plastic surgery or any of the trimmings to do it.  I guess I am just one mobile home livin, jerry springerish, life wannabe in someone's eyes... but I am the finest me that I can be who had all the trimmings in life and didn't need them to balance out who I was, to thrill the guys or be worth something.  I have owned custom home's with lots of art and custom furnishings and weekend parties hosted and paid for by me. Hell, in one year I got screwed out of three million dollars owed to me for work my company had done.  I didn't like the fake and moved on to better things... people and life and doing good in society.

I just happen to think that a man simple in his ways that values what I value.. which is people and life and not the goods I gave up to have the simple life I wanted... is good enough.  I didn't need to change myself and go with a presentation to enact my life and fun. 

There is more to life and kink than what one might think they need to be of worth. I have seen it from both sides and didn't end well not from choice but health... but I am damn happy in my mobile home with no connecting walls to anyone and where I can design, help people and live happily not needing the trimmings some find personal value in.

But then... I am sure jerry springer would be proud of me... I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks. Jerry!  Jerry!  I want some beads!




lobodomslavery -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:22:24 AM)

Your right Lockit. Money does not make the Dominant. That what makes this site disappointing in ways. We have a lot of gold diggers on our hands. Amongst the dross , there are some gems tho and You are one
kevin




windycitysub78 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:26:14 AM)

Sorry if you don't agree, I'm looking for someone like me - to each his own.




Lynnxz -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:33:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The thing I enjoy most, more than sex even, is resting together with someone I can totally trust.


Well I never have sex with a sub or look to them to be a romantic partner. They are my sub or slave...not my lover. But back to the point...BDSM  and D/s for me is like Theatre.... a good production with lots of effects and props...I am not looking for a romantic connection.   If one comes out of a slave I would be pleasantly surprised.....But I take my subs on a well orchestrated adventure...They leave me  with their mouths open and their eyes bucked...And that takes a lot of hard work and money to pull off exquisitely.


BS. If you cannot blow someone's mind.. with your own, then what is the point of domination?

Yes, I've spent thousands on gear, cosmetic procedures, and costumes for the pro side of domination... but if I can't accomplish the exact same thing in my jammies... what does that say about me?

*Edit* lobo stop fishing for pityfucks.




stef -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 9:51:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Your right Lockit. Money does not make the Dominant. That what makes this site disappointing in ways. We have a lot of gold diggers on our hands.

We also have our fair share of whiners.  I guess we'll just have to soldier on and live our lives while they wallow in self-pity.

~stef




Wickad -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 10:01:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LunaVenus

Guys EXPECT you to have ALL of that Pro or Amateur.
They EXPECT you to send them good quality pictures.
They EXPECT you to look like you just stepped out of a porn movie in the photos.
They EXPECT your body to be flawless
They EXPECT you to not look a day over 21
They EXPECT you to have pretty outfits
They EXPECT you to have a fully equipped Dungeon!

Again... there are different kinds of Mistresses.... Some just put on a black sweater in the back of their trailerĀ and slap men and call themselves a Domme....Others try to do everything that is EXPECTED of them with the HIGHEST STANDARDS and Quality!!!.... and all that costs a FORTUNE! Someone has got to contribute to all of that or otherwise it is a money losing venture for a Domme and no one can stay involved



you go 'girl'!!

Wickad




ladylucky32 -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 10:32:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Your right Lockit. Money does not make the Dominant. That what makes this site disappointing in ways. We have a lot of gold diggers on our hands. Amongst the dross , there are some gems tho and You are one
kevin



The gold diggers would not get anywhere if you boys would stop sending them money. This is not rocket science, just common sense.




LunaVenus -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 10:43:01 AM)

I am not  a gold digger.. I don't make anything! To the contrary I have LOST thousands of dollars in supplies and maintenance. I don't ask much....just help ofsetting my expenses.  Nothing in life is free. If I give EVERYTHING and my slaves expect to give nothing....something is very wrong.. and they are users. I am not made of money either. It must be Equal give and Equal take...I am not into being used.

These days people want everything and want to give nothing in return. That won't work....Or else you can deal with substandard Dommes. Now my slaves don't need to be wealthy. NO .... just  put as much into the situation as they can and  help in whatever way they can...Maybe they can help me build something, help to maintain things, or help with something! It is not about me Giving giving giving...It is a mutual relationship at best.




opposingtwilight -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 10:44:03 AM)

You say "you boys" as if you had some sort of evidence that kevin has been spending money on pro dommes.

The fact is, men have been paying for sex ever since women realized that sex could be sold. Its not only submissive men who do it and, thought for the day. Most of the men who pay these "gold diggers" are lacking in some way that prevents them from getting it for free. Maybe they don't have time to invest in a relationship. Maybe they're ugly. Maybe they're socially inept. The list could go on and on and on ...

Are these "gold diggers" really so horrible for being intelligent enough to see a market and tapping into it? I mean, lets face it, these are women who are somehow convincing otherwise capable, grown men, to part with their hard earned cash for what? Sex? Something they could get for free if they actually put forth enough effort to do so? I dunno. I think some of them ladies must be kinda smart to have realized they can cash in for very little effort.

Some of them are lazy. But the ones who really bank are the ones who actually work at it. So, yeah. Its not rocket science. Just common sense.

Oh and before I get crucified, when I say "sex" I don't just mean intercourse. I mean sexuality in general. Fantasies, erotica, anything that stimulates the sexual mind or body .... Its just easier to say "sex" rather than explain all the facets therein.




LunaVenus -> RE: Why is it that most Dommes want subs that are "financially successful"? (1/31/2009 10:47:06 AM)

Uh maybe with some...but again... I don't have sex with slaves.  I am a Domme not a whore. Maybe you want a slave for sex, but I am a pure Domme. 




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