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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 4:04:22 PM

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How about I give Kyra a kiss on Sunday and she can pass it on?

She will be collecting my due this sunday.... and being a good girl that she is... I thing she deserves alittle pat on the bum. *G*

Now, I wonder how a sadist defines “a little pat”?

My Lord, do you think you should let him know that hitting me on the ass makes me angry and that I have been known to kick back?

Kyra

I'm sure he took that under consideration

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 4:08:48 PM

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curious.... have you ever engage into a prolonged fantasy role playing game?

Games? No. A lifetime ago I was involved in the theater. Often the director would establish characterization by going off script in character. You had to either project out 20 years or project back 20 years in the life of the character you were portraying. My favorite experience with that exercise was in the portrayal of Tevye. Prolonged? The longest was a three day weekend. But I think I could get into character even today, 23 years later. Every show I appeared in and even some of the musical bands I played, were fantasy in many ways. I just didn't prolong them.

beth was a D&D player, and as such her character has been suspended on a "floating slab" for the last 21 years as the game was put on pause. So I guess she's still playing.

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 5:31:42 PM

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Games? No. A lifetime ago I was involved in the theater. Often the director would establish characterization by going off script in character. You had to either project out 20 years or project back 20 years in the life of the character you were portraying. My favorite experience with that exercise was in the portrayal of Tevye. Prolonged? The longest was a three day weekend. But I think I could get into character even today, 23 years later. Every show I appeared in and even some of the musical bands I played, were fantasy in many ways. I just didn't prolong them.

beth was a D&D player, and as such her character has been suspended on a "floating slab" for the last 21 years as the game was put on pause. So I guess she's still playing.

Thank you.... I played D&D for years in my past and can appreciate what your saying about the similiarities. But a significant difference is that people enter into Fantasy roles... be it Acting in Theatre or Role Play Games or other such affairs, they all know not representation of reality but an altered reality that can be changed at a stroke of a pen or idea. It's a matter of integrity to me. Role-playing is an alter-reality you live to that realm as best you can, but if everyone appreciates the truth of the alter-reality, then all the more power to them in their fun. But you always know it is an alter-reality, you and those involved. Unfortuantely, in the On-line situation, it is difficult to determine who is being honest or are just try to suck someone into their alter-reality. The Games people play! But it occurs fact to face too, online just makes it easier. If I just had a penny for everytime one was sucked into a relationship that is based on lies, not on-line but face to face, I would be a filthy rich man! I know more than my share of people that have had this happen to them in Face to Face situation let alone on-line.

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 8:47:22 PM

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We have lately had many spirited discussions about submissives versus slaves---slaves being presented as someone with no will or someone who gives up will completely ( I guess)--My question is in the context of online or an LDR--how does a slave relationship exist? The slave is obviously living on their own, how are decisions made? How does it work?

The post assumes that the underlying definition of "slave" is universal. One can have given up all "rights" to their Owner. That does not mean that the Owner micro-manages or is actively in control at all times. "Go and do the things I need/want you to do" is a valid instruction, which can include deciding what to make for dinner, doing the grocery shoppping to get the items, working a job to bring money into the household, etc.

The problem most folks run into is requiring slavery to be an absolute "don't wipe without asking."

Before I moved across the country, I used to say to my Mistress when I would first see Her online each day, "And I even wiped without calling You!"

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 9:26:38 PM

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Any Master and slave can develop their relationship on whatever terms suit them.

While I certainly understand what many of you are saying, that by nature of the distance, and the fact that the slave MUST be leading her (or his) own life and making decisions it definitely is a lot different than RL.

But it also strikes me as a bit ego-centric to say that just because the relationship between two doesn't match your definition then it is not valid.

I'll be the first one to admit though, that LDR is vastly different than RL 24/7, but I submit to everyone that Ds is a lot bigger and can mean vastly different things to each of us. The common theme that binds them all together is the special bond between Master and slave, not how that bond is demonstrated or arrived at.

OK...flame on :)

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 11:44:15 PM

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SHE dictated how much i could spend for what out of my paychecks
She said what i was/was not allowed to do away from home
She said what i could/could not buy for grocery...etc etc

it DOES work
SHE dictated my every movement
She said what i was/was not allowed to see on TV.

I lived like this once. I was 8 and living with my parents.

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/13/2006 11:51:59 PM

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the more the relationship doesnt work out the more you know soemthings wrong

That logic is unimpeachable!!

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/14/2006 1:14:15 AM

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I've got to agree with cutie here. Commitment knows no bounds. One can be committed a million miles away and not committed sleeping beside you.

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/14/2006 3:21:46 AM

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I bet we need a new word for this kind of relationship.

i agree because i don't think it truely falls under the catagory of slave or submissive. it's something in between, in my opinion.

the closest i've come to slavery was being owned by a couple who lived 100 miles away. i was at their house from friday til monday, sometimes more. then in between i was at my own house. there was constant communication throughout the day. they always knew where i was and who i was with. and to the best of our abilities they knew what i spent my time doing. they didn't micromanage my life any more than they would have if i lived with them ... but they did the best they could with keeping tabs on me and guiding me through my days.

to call that slavery might be a stretch ... but i felt as owned as i could under the circumstances.

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mmmmmmmmmm if distance is the determining factor that a person is or is not own or a slave... then why not Time too? I see no distinction between time and distance. Some seem to be indicating that distance prevents certain behaviors from occuring... well hell why stop there... I think the Quantity of behaviors is just as important, which is also being implied by others... how can one that is in a 1 year relationship be more of a slave than one that is 3 years in the relationship.... yeah that's the ticket! Distance and Time dictate the label of slave. Being closer and more time allows one to have more so-called Master/slave interactions. SO how much TIME together should be requred to be a slave?

So... I don't care if you live with your Master...... If you haven't live with them for at least 5 years will it's not a Slave... some other term should be used... mmmmmmmm How about SHORT TERM Slave?

You know maybe 5 years isnt enough? I think 10 years is required! mmmmmmmmmm well maybe that isn't enough either after all 10 years is not even a quarter of a person adult life time. maybe when a person spends half their adult life then they can be a slave anything less than that well some other term is required!

Encase anyone misses it... I am being Highly Sarcastic! I don't have alot of patience for narrowly defined labels that are projected universally that are in of itself just plain Silly!

KoM ... maybe i was unclear in my post. my point was not to use time and distance as a measuring stick for what slavery is or isn't. nor was i making universal judgements on what slavery is to anyone else.

i was speaking of my own personal experience with a long distance relationship. i guess the part i forgot to add was that the problem, as i saw it, was inconsistency. our relationship was one way when i was there ... and another way when i wasn't. if we had been 24/7 i think i would have been able to settle into my slavery a little better. we made due and had a mostly fulfilling relationship but we struggled because of the distance.

i was no less their slave when i was in my own home ... but the impact was different ... for obvious reasons. and it always left me wanting more ... and knowing that i could be more.

and with all due respect ... i think your sarcasm was uncalled for.

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/14/2006 3:01:58 PM

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Oh, PS: I still don't think that is slavery in the way I view it. I think you were very very submissive to her will, but you still had quite a lot of choice. you could suddenly stop answering the phone, or one day in the 7-11 buy an unauthorized Slurpee. In the end, though, it matters most what She and you thought.

I am on the floor, what punishment does one offer for an unauthorized Slurpee??

They have to drink it super fast with a big straw, causing severe brain freeze....ouch

ROFLMAMFAO

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RE: Online or Distance relationships - 1/14/2006 4:25:01 PM

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I lived like this once. I was 8 and living with my parents.
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he he chuckle

and it happens RIGHT NOW.......

i am HER boy...SHE dictates my every move..for 18 hrs a day...
i AM real time--24/7/365..
but not ALL folks are gonna do it..we KNOW that..
i just..agreed to it..is all.
ya know?

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