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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:09:21 AM

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"Racial Domination" sounds like race is more important then the person Domming you. No one said something about that.

I'm not sure I understand your point, but it seems to be:

"The OP shouldn't choose a dominant based on his skin colour, but on attributes I see as more important."

I think you can already predict my reply. It's up to each person to decide what the most important attributes of prospective partners is. If she looks to skin colour first, that's her preference. If she looks to penis length, it's her preference. Clothing style, years in BDSM, financial situation, and so on. They're all fair game. You might not like how she prioritizes her "dominant want list", but if she looks at skin colour before anything else, she's not being racist. She's finding the person that is right for her current needs.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:15:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

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ORIGINAL: JustDarkness
"Racial Domination" sounds like race is more important then the person Domming you. No one said something about that.

I'm not sure I understand your point, but it seems to be:

Racial domination.......means dominated by race..not a person. Isn't that racist by default?
At least that is how it sounds a little. You don't look at a person how he/she dominates you...but just..as a start..the race.

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"The OP shouldn't choose a dominant based on his skin colour, but on attributes I see as more important."

nope that is not what I said/mean.
I just read the words "racial domination"and what it sounds like.
Agree that people should do and take what they like/prefer. It is their choice.
The words make it sound negative....although I have no problem when people like other colours better then others.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:20:03 AM

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Chicks like you though, make me think I ought to pursue being an exploitative dominant rather than being a sub open to being exploited. I've had more than one chick from the street tell me I could become a pimp, but in a way I'm too soft for that. I dunno.

You know, this isn't the first time you've written something that made me say

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We're on a BDSM site which entails sex of all forms, with as many people as one desires, and in as many combinations as one desires.   There are dominants who take sex, money and the authority to sleep or not with other men from submissives, and none of them have ever been judged.

In this case, you are freaked out, because she's a pretty white young lady, and you say she's the one with issues about past taboos!    Hello pot, meet kettle, I mean littleannie.   You also condescendingly assume she doesn't know what she wants/is doing, and call her a chick, as if you have the right to talk down to her.   As for whether you are projecting... *Excellent choice of words*

littleannie, I've almost exclusively dated white men in the last 6years; not because of me necessarily, but more because they've been the ones who've pursued me more frequently and vigorously.    If you're turned on by black male dominants, find one who suits you and enjoy yourself.    They are no different than any other human being; so get to know them as individuals, because each is different, just like white men.    M

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:27:44 AM

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They are no different than any other human being; so get to know them as individuals, because each is different, just like white men.

well said...actually it is weird we have to discuss about it.
if 2 adult partners see no problem in it..then there is propably none.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:43:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

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ORIGINAL: scarlethiney
In my opinion in his post he(UPSG) refers to black men specifically, then back steps and says he isn't referring to all black men. That is racist. When you single out one group of people based on ethnicity or economic status then your being racist.

"Black people tend to have darker skin than white people." Oh shit, I'm a racist.
"Asians." Oh crap, I singled out a group of people based on ethnicity. Racist again.
Some how I don't have any problem believing this.

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He also alludes to the presumption that everyone who lives in a depressed economy is possibly someone the OP needs to be careful of.

Because they ARE.

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when someone makes a comment that points out a difference and that reference includes race then "I" consider that to be racist.

You clearly don't know what the word "racism" means, and by using it so inappropriately and carelessly, you devalue its meaning even more than it has already been devalued.

Having shown absolutely nothing in the way of proof that the post was racist, I think you should withdraw your accusation and seriously consider never making another one like it until you've at least partially educated yourself.

To the OP, who has a fantasy of being used, degraded, and enslaved by a black male, and has very limited experience with any of it: Be careful. If you see that as racist then you are a TRULY sick individual who deserves all our scorn.

The OP never stated that she wanted to be degraded by anyone unless you consider being dominated as degradation.
Right now your the only person who might benefit from taking your own advice.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 12:53:17 AM

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I know some really wonderful black people... the girl who has held the title of "my submissive' for more years than anyone else is a wonderful black girl... she's still a dear friend...

Having grown up in SouthWest Detroit has given me ample postitive as well as negative impressions of many black people.

That said... and "racist" views aside... I am aware of a higher percentage of black males who offer profiles as "dominants" who are literally "guys lookin for pussy" than I am aware of any other race...

I think any girl looking for a man should be careful... but if your main criteria is a 'black male' you should be a little more careful than when simply looking for a good guy to date...

Yet that being said, in my original post in this thread I encouraged the OP to seek out fulfillment of her interest....

Best of luck in your search...

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 1:18:50 AM

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I am aware of a higher percentage of black males who offer profiles as "dominants" who are literally "guys lookin for pussy" than I am aware of any other race...

Give me a phuckin' break, will you?! Is there a school one has to graduate from in order for you to consider anyone a true dominant? Perhaps all they want is pussy, and if that is the case, let the submissive would be decide he isn't her type, because she wants a proper whipping first, before he taps it. You mean when white guys post dominant or submissive profiles, they're not looking for pussy? I guess the impotent and gay ones may not be, but the rest... What say you men?
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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 5:07:53 AM

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I would just like to reiterate that being black is not the only criteria that I would look for in a Dom, to be sure. I'm not *that* naive. I realize not to drop my panties and my online safety habits just for the first black male who sends me a message here, which by the way has been many, possibly because of what I say about racial domination in my profile. However, whoever said they seemed to be more just "looking for pussy" then other men on this site, I would have to disagree. Their messages and profiles don't seem any different then the other men on this site. I do think that they are sometimes a lot more aware of all their sexual feelings and a lot more confident with that (I have no idea how to phrase that so it doesn't sound racist), so it just seems like they are horndogs, but I have talked to plenty of African American gentlemen here, of all age spans, who are not just after "pussy".

I also don't agree that the fact that I want to be racially dominated is racist. That is like saying that if you wanted to be dominated by a male, rather then a female, is sexist. Which, I'm sure some people have said on this site before, but it's pretty ludicrous to assume that, in my opinion. Besides if it were racist, it seems like the black members of this site would jump on my stuff and respond to my profile angrily from what I say, rather then with plenty of interest, imo. I guess that goes back to what an earlier poster said about negative vs. positive making something racist.

I really do realize that I personally am young, naive and inexperienced in this lifestyle. Oh well, we all have to start somewhere and I'd rather identify what I what I need rather then just deny it for years and never try to indulge. So I guess when I asked for thoughts on racial domination, it didn't necessarily have to be about *me*, but rather what is thought of it as a whole. And again, I am talking about something very specific here, not just having a Master who is black. I am talking about having a Master who knows that he is supreme to me, if not only because he is my Master, but because he is black and I am white. Idk it is hard to explain. But it's not just I am attracted to black males, it's actually being racially dominated because I want to serve them. Does that make any sense?

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 5:22:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: JustDarkness

and as with the previous post about this subject..the word racist has fallen even though the title says "racial domination".
Racial dominations sounds like race is more important then the person Domming you. No one said something about that.

Twas my thought, like those who seek a relationship with a BBW because they are a BBW and not based on their personality/a personal connection. Trying to date a lable bugs me.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 5:23:05 AM

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all did make sense except the last line (for me that is).
but....just enjoy your feelings and what you want.
I guess..people all agree on that

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:24:55 AM

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Well, once again I think if this is your kink..it is. I am sure the rest of our kinks if analyzed by most people would be considered out of the norm, I know some of mine would be.

I personally talked to a few black doms before I met my M. I just didn't click with them on a personal level anymore than I did with the white doms I was talking to at the time. I do know that I have always found black men attractive in many ways. To me a black man wearing a nice suit, has a confidence about him in the way he carries himself. Hmmm...I think that way about most guys in suits, uniforms..etc..I think I for sure have found another kink of mine

I think you are going to be careful, I won't think you that naive. You grew up in the same world we live in and I know you aren't going to just put yourself in a situation because someone is the race you want...I give you more credit than that.

BTW..to whomever posted about her being careful because him possibly being in a bad neighborhood. I have talked to plenty of doms that live in a "nice" places and they were just as likely to pimp me out as someone in a not so good one. If someone is working and trying to make it in this world in a legal way, I don't think it should matter where they come from. We all have to start someplace and it's hard enough to make ends meet in this economy to begin with. I don't think that has anything to do with race at all.

I don't think you are racist, annie...I think you just have a preference for what turns you on. I don't like women dominating me, but that doesn't make me a sexist. We all have what floats our boat, this just happens to be yours.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:43:50 AM

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That said... and "racist" views aside... I am aware of a higher percentage of black males who offer profiles as "dominants" who are literally "guys lookin for pussy" than I am aware of any other race...

*calculates....*
i suppose to each his own, because in my experience i can honestly say that of my white Doms, maybe two were actually more than horny guys that liked to be a little bossy in bed.

But 100% of my Black Doms....wouldn't even have the pussy i kept throwing at Him until He was sure i was "ready"...and even after, made it very clear that D/s, and not sex, was the focus and most important aspect of wiitwd.

After all...pussy isn't that hard to get for most black guys i know...just sayin'

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:47:11 AM

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Most of my adult life I have been drawn to the unique beauty many dark skinned women are gifted with. But for me skin color is just the surface, more it’s the psychosexual mindset and the ability to embrace sensuality in movement every-day dress and attitude. Even in jeans and a sweatshirt the black woman emits an alluring sensuality woman of other colors just don’t seem to project.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:47:23 AM

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There are people that are TRASH in every race and there are people who are REFINED and of Quality in every race.
As a BIRACIAL person myself having one white parent and one black, perhaps I have been well exposed to the pluses and minuses in both races.

I suggest you take a long time researching your master and seek one who is of quality and refined, articulate and possessing sophistocated tastes. But this is true with any race of dom, You do not want a trashy beer slinginging red neck slurring curses, any more than a project hood from the ghetto speaking in Ebonics. All of that garbage is to be rejected. Find a good one.... Personally I prefer MIXED mulattos like myself or OTHER. I think they are most sexy and maybe more inclined to be refined....maybe.

Choose wisely. you may have to go through much muck to find a jewel.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:51:08 AM

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I know that a lot of black Mistresses prefer white slaves. I wonder if there are some white Mistresses who prefer black slaves. I think it would be hot for a Scarlett O'Hara type to have a stable of black slaves in the twenty-first century.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 6:55:53 AM

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I know that a lot of black Mistresses prefer white slaves. I wonder if there are some white Mistresses who prefer black slaves. I think it would be hot for a Scarlett O'Hara type to have a stable of black slaves in the twenty-first century.

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 7:06:03 AM

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littleannie,
i agree wholeheartedly with FullfigRIMAAM1. There IS room for what you are looking for HOWEVER, down under all the skin color and gender, tallness/shortness, thinness/heavyness and no matter what else we "DESIRE"...the partner you end up with is a human being. Matching what is good about each other is the most important part of any relationship. That helps it last and makes it enjoyable for both. Keep this in mind along with your "racial" fantasy as long as he is approving of it. I serve a wonderful black woman that is NOT even into race play though I would play that way myself. She is human first and a woman. I hope You find the man you are looking for.
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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 7:15:52 AM

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BTW, IvyMorgan made an interesting statment about "dating labels". I don't disagree with her but everyone here is human and either male or female and a member of one of the "races" on this earth. I guess you could say labels define the interesting differances amongst us all. In our own minds is where those differances can be...well, interesting.
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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 7:45:58 AM

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Usually i'm content to observe and watch the natural evolution of a discussion, but I just have to chime in here.

First, let me say that I am a firm believer that kinks do not have to be politically correct. If black people don't do it for you that's fine, if you're only attracted to people from a small island of the coast of Japan, fine. But some of the replies here, while I understand that they mean well, smell of predjudice.

She basically said, "I'm attracted to black men, and I love the idea of one dominating me. Can anyone else sympathize?" And you would have thought that she said, "I'm going to go into the projects, swat the crack pipe out of some crip's hand and ask him to be my domme. Please establish doubt."

The whole "Be careful, many black men come from poor areas and may be dangerous, and abuse or exploit you" is only relevant if her method of selection is by spinning that giant wheel from The Price is Right. I'm going to assume that she's not just choosing someone at random. I for one, am going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that she's at least of average intelligence, and has standards. If someone tells me she's going out for a burger, I'm going to assume that its not a burger she found in an alley somewhere.

But yes, please be careful, not because he's black or white, but because he's a man that you don't know yet.

btw, NormalOutside, you're scaring me with that "pretending we're genetically the same" comment. Yes, some of us have darker skin than others, but the subject of the discussion I thought was the behavior a domme might have. Discussions on Race+genes+behavior = a dark path filled with goblins, demons, and sweet potato pie (seriously, that stuff is nasty, who eats that?)

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RE: black/racial domination - 2/1/2009 8:05:25 AM

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I am a firm believer that kinks do not have to be politically correct.

Amen to that. If we have to conform to societal norms, we are all doomed.

I generally agree with two types of observations here:

1. If racial domination is your kink, and both are consenting adults, who the hell cares?

2. There are good people and bad people all over the world. Each type comes in various shades of white, black, brown, yellow, or red. The goal is to look for the good ones and look past the shading.

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